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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! --MaverickNate 03:40, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Redirects on talk pages

It's alright that you are fixing redirects for main pages as it looks nicer. But there is really no point to do it to the talk pages. So please don't waste your time with them and focus on the main pages. --ケンジガール 02:34, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Link templates

Remember that you can use link templates to make editing easier. Instead of using [[Rustboro City|Rustboro]] when you're fixing links to redirects, why not use {{ci|Rustboro}}? You can refer to the list of link templates if you're in need of one. - espeonA 02:46, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Just a heads-up

I replied to your comment on the MoveDex talk page.

Just a heads-up on images, I noticed you list them off on your userpage with text, not links; not sure how much you know about wiki-coding. But, if you want to make links, you just use brackets; for images, since you don't want to actually display the image, you just code it as: [[:file:image.jpg]]

The extra : before "File" makes it into a normal link, as opposed to a image inclusion. Might be handy if you need to link to images (if you manage to upload any move scans, you might need to link to some of 'em so we know they're up). -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 13:38, 19 December 2009 (UTC)


Wild held items: use the {{wild}} template. It'll autolink! TTEchidna 10:00, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


Remember to list only Pokémon that have the possibility of being male for breeding. Adding Kangaskhan and Nidoran♀ would not fit this category since they can only be female. ht14 13:43, 26 January 2010 (UTC)


They get italics now. If you are going around adding the epicode number, go ahead and add the italics around the link as well. MaverickNate 14:02, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Redirects to sections

I know that redirects should be avoided, but it generally better to leave redirects to sections alone. For the full explanation, see User talk:SnorlaxMonster#DL link. For example, what if Team Raider had a huge role in the next Mystery Dungeon game and deserved their own article? --SnorlaxMonster 12:42, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Renaming everything

Good effort. I hate to interrupt, but I was curious - are you doing it all manually, or have you made a program to edit? —darklordtrom 19:59, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Unless you count the use of tabs and the find and search feature, all done manually. I'm usually good at getting done the repetitive tasks in regards to syntax, such as redirection renaming and the such, it is why I tried to help with the movie coding when they were moved and redirects to pages as well as recategorisation of images in the archives when the images are changed sometimes. I think I got everything that I could (not including the Royal Isshu which seemed to be kept at that page due to it's name as a ship and not the region itself), a few of the pages were locked, and I couldn't touch most of the templates. So they'll have to be done by the mods. Sorry. -Spriteit 22:50, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your hard work. Here, I got you something. I'll swap you for a list of protected pages that need changing? (If any.) —darklordtrom 10:43, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
I made 500 in one day, wow, thank you. It's mostly just the templates that need changing now, Template:EpisodeInfobox, Template:PokémonInfoboxNoncat, Template:Legendary Pokémon, Template:New episode, Template:Routelist, Template:AbilityInfobox, Template:Episodelistheader, Template:Cotd/h, Template:AbilityInfoboxNoncat, Template:User Best Wishes all need a change of Isshu to Unova (these are mostly just colour template changes I believe), it looks like the rest have been changed already :) -Spriteit 11:22, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

British English

I would like to point out that Bulbapedia uses American English, not British English in its articles, but redirects for British spellings should be made. However, most of your edits are correct, in that optical discs should be spelled with a 'c' (even in American English). However, when it comes to disk as in a shape, it should be 'k'. While most of your edits are correct, your edit summaries seem to provide the wrong reasons. --SnorlaxMonster 12:11, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Okay then, I was just using a general edit summary for the point, and I was unaware of that, I've always been taught that the British use a k, and the American a c, regardless. My apologises. --Spriteit 12:14, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
Don't worry. Unless you were changing quotes or disks as in shape you're fine. I think this explains the confusing usage of disc and disk fairly well. Oh, and sorry if I confused you before, but 'k' is only used for the shape in American English (just noticed that I was a little ambiguous when I put that). --SnorlaxMonster 12:19, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
K for shape, okay then, I'll continue through my list and try to catch them all, but make sure I try not to take the spellings at face value next time :) --Spriteit 12:25, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Edits to be made

I did some of your "edits to be made" for protected pages. It is generally better to put edit requests on the talk pages of protected pages if you want them changed. Also, you were doing Pocket Monsters BW wrong. Using {{ma|Pocket Monsters BW|Kosaku Anakubo}} simply links to Pocket Monsters BW (manga) while displaying Kosaku Anakubo; what you want is {{OBP|Pocket Monsters BW|Kosaku Anakubo}}. Don't worry, I already went back and corrected where you made these errors. --SnorlaxMonster 13:14, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Deck redirects

We also wanted to add categories to those pages at the same time. oh well. Thanks for getting the redirects. MaverickNate 16:41, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Heh, sorry about that... if you want me too I can go through and add the categories for you as well, just give me the names of the categories and I'll go through them again. I thought the template automatically categorised them, sorry. --Spriteit 11:50, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
The TCG links to redirects for specific reasons. Why would a Japanese card be released with an English card? that's what your "fixes" are implying. Why would a Japanese only card categorization have an English release?MaverickNate 05:56, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Didn't even realise I was redoing the edits you had reverted, sorry about that. But having properly read the paragraphs I don't see how changing the links implies an English release. If it states in Japan then wouldn't one assume it would be in Japanese? --Spriteit 06:06, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
I guess so, but we'd like to do it that way so that we wouldn't have to constantly update things as they are released different times. Sometimes it isn't so obvious. This card links to its counterpart's Promo redirect because it was the promo that was released, not the original. IDK. It's something that makes sense, in my opinion. It reflects sometimes what is legal in the game and what isn't. Decks aren't able to use things from 10 sets ago, so it's only logical that this deck links to the Rare Candy release that was legal at the time "Rare Candy (EX Holon Phantoms 90)", rather than one that is no longer able to be used "Rare Candy (EX Sandstorm 88)". MaverickNate 06:14, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
When you put it that way I get what you mean now, my TCG knowledge is limited up to the Team Rocket expansion due to its limited prevelance in Australia. So especially when it comes to the decks and tournament rulings I has no idea... will try too keep this in mind next time. --Spriteit 06:44, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Undoing yourself

Why did you suddenly change your mind? Those names are confirmed. If you need admin approval, I approve of it. --SnorlaxMonster 12:26, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Because in the move logs one of the pages was moved back due to lack of admin approval, despite believing myself the source was fine and dandy, I was unsure of whether admin approval did have to be waited for before renaming, so I figured I jumped the gun and decided to revert just to be safe. --Spriteit 12:30, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Oh, I see it now. I'll sort it out. It's ONM with footage of the game. It's one of the most reliable ways of getting this kind of information anyway. --SnorlaxMonster 12:32, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, and thats what I thought, but, like I said, better safe then sorry. --Spriteit 12:34, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

"misread what I was told by SnorlaxMonster"

Why are you undoing yourself? As far as I can tell, they seem correct. --SnorlaxMonster 14:02, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

I thought for some reason that you said all the target=any should be replaced with target=anyadjacent, as opposed to it also possibly being target=adjacentfoes. I'm not actually checking who can be hit in battle only the descriptions, as a result I was unsure if they were correct so I decided to revert them so that someone who was sure could go through and check them. --Spriteit 14:07, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, I probably wasn't clear enough. target=anyadjacent means it can hit any adjacent Pokémon, including allies, but only one (example: Pound). target=adjacentfoes means that it hits all adjacent foes at once, so if you're in the corner it hits both (example: Air Slash); in double battles, these moves hit both opponents at once. target=any is now exclusively for these moves (but some of them like Perish Song would take something else). --SnorlaxMonster 14:12, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
It's not your fault, so anyadjacent is basically those moves that can only hit one (like Disable), and adjacentfoes is for both adjacent opponents get hit at once by a move (can't think of any off the top of my head), therefore most would be adjacentfoes correct? --Spriteit 14:30, 26 March 2011 (UTC)


Regarding your relinking of {{tc|Fisherman}}, you seemed to be changing Fisher to Fisherman. Fisher was the name of the class in Generation II, so you need to be careful not to change it then. If you need templates changed to make exceptions, I can set that up.--SnorlaxMonster 13:53, 25 April 2011 (UTC)


I'm guessing this is you. If so, I want you to log into that account, and send me a PM. If not, then we need to fix that because we need to talk. -- MAGNEDETH 03:37, 14 December 2011 (UTC)


When relinking PokéPark (theme park), it is better to use {{OBP|PokéPark|theme park}} than [[PokéPark (theme park)|PokéPark]]. Anyway, thanks for doing my relinks again. I really don't enjoy doing them, and you seem to, so we make a good team. --SnorlaxMonster 11:14, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

That link template always confused me, until now I didn't realise it was circumventing the disambig pages. And that's fine, relinks is what I do, most knowledge I have to contribute is already added, so I'm happy with clean up duty. Just quickly while I have you, what's happening with Elemental types (TCG)? I've put templates and started discussion, no reply though, I'd do it myself but TCG articles are Mav's thing, and I'd rather have his approval before touching it. --Spriteit 11:25, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
I intended to campaign for that after finding my TCG rulebook (which I didn't). However, based on other people's rulebooks and the TCGO, they are called just "types" in the TCG too. You might be better off just letting Nate know on his talk page if you want something to happen. Also, currently it is plural, which is discouraged, so I would suggest it gets moved to "Type (TCG)" if moved, but perhaps there is a reason for the plural that I'm missing. --SnorlaxMonster 11:29, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
I'll see if I can't find one of my old ones, but I'll bring it up on Nate's page anyway, since all my books would be from Base and Jungle era, but if it's just 'type' in the TCGO, I'd assume it would be the same in the actual card game. --Spriteit 11:35, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


Hello! I admire your work on fixing capital letters in words like Egg and Gym, it's something I'd never be able to do. But in this case, wouldn't badgeless be an adjective, instead of a noun like Badge? I think the capital letter doesn't apply in this case. |) u |( e ® 16:13, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, in regards to that edit I had a 503 while trying to save and had to re do it, I initially had it as Badge-less. Due to the fact that it was in direct reference to the Badges, another instance is where fossilized occurs, the F shouldn't be capitalised. If you want to change it back, be free too, I'll be doing alot of syntax edits for a while, they aren't number 1 priority, but they do need to be done. --Spriteit 06:09, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

My Edits

I remember you asking me if I am proud of my edits. Wanna know? Here is the answer: Yes, Yes I am. Have a good day!LMFS 05:40, 17 April 2012 (UTC)


If you have a chance later on, could you please log on to AIM for a few mins. I'll be online about all day today :D. Thanks. --Pokemaster97 14:39, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: Learnlist

noted. i will check through them when i am free. however, even before i make the edits, there are aready many inconsistancies between the pages -Pokeant (talk) 10:48, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

sprite work

Did you manage to fix all of the file names of the trainer sprites in the protected pages? PattyMan 01:52, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

I believe this has been taken care of, sorry I didn't reply, I've been away on a cruise for a week and a half. --Spriteit (talk) 08:18, 19 December 2012 (UTC)


Thanks for the image, I like it! :) Arceus101 (talk) 21:57, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

User Favorite Champion

When you get a chance, could you please add Iris to this template? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:39, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Done.--Den Zen 08:52, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you, Dennou. :) --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 09:01, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Stadium sprites

I have a favor to ask: could you edit the {{Party}} template so that the Stadium and Stadium 2 sprites can be fit into it with a proper size? Thank you. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:56, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

To be perfectly honest I can't. If not only because I'm not good at template coding and I'd probably break it, sorry. --Spriteit (talk) 07:31, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
I understand. Do you know any user who could do it? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:34, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Kogoro might be able to, might wanna specify if you mean the pokemon models or the trainer portraits though. --Spriteit (talk) 13:12, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:13, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

"I swear if someone even posts to say it appears in X and Y..."

Okay, what I missed? I saw the trailer, and how is this all related to this? Marked +-+-+ (talk) 15:09, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Look at all the pages I put the message on, they were all previous gen pokemon, mentions of appearances in a future gen don't go there. --Spriteit (talk) 15:11, 11 June 2013 (UTC)


Weirdly enough, Silver has no class in G2 (other than the ???, though that's more of a name). I have no idea how to implement that, though, without derping things.Eridanus (talk) 14:03, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

What is G2? Do you mean Crystal? -Spriteit (talk) 14:05, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Entire G2, which includes Gold, Silver and Crystal. It just says "<name> wants to battle!" when I checked in Silver and Crystal (Gold is presumably the same, because what are the chances) Eridanus (talk) 14:13, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
So you meant Generation 2, which is what I was getting at. Looking at Some Youtube videos you are right, He doesn't become Silver till Mt. Moon and even then he isn't Rival, I'll see what the other staff have to say. --Spriteit (talk) 14:27, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

The Steel-type

Spriteit, I heard there is a user called Relicant undid my edit and Pumpkinking's edit. As I was right, Water and Electric resists Steel-type. --Cinday123 (Talk) 08:16, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

To be honest I don't completely understand this trivia, so I'm not really the right person to go to here. Sorry. --Spriteit (talk) 12:52, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Butterfree shiny back HGSS sprites

Hi there, I noticed that Butterfree has shiny back HGSS sprites in the Other Sprites section on its page. However, I compared them to the DPPt ones and found no difference. I had a short conversation with IWannaBeTheVeryBest on the Butterfree talk page here and they directed me your way. I'm of the opinion that they should be deleted. Jdthebud (talk) 20:41, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

I know with a few of the sprites there was a 1 pixel difference, I can not however see the difference between these two either. I feel this is probably not the only issue either and the deletion of repeated sprites is a part of the larger sprite project, I will talk to Kogs about which should be deleted. -06:22, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Edit request: Template:Pokémon/4/Contest

Since you responded to most of the rest of the edit requests I made for the contest links, I'd like to make a direct request to you for this last template that's slipped through the cracks each time I've tried to request it indirectly (just from whoever notices). It's just like the other recent ones I requested, needing "Contest" changed to "(condition)" in a few places. Thanks (I hope). Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:53, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

X & Y Games and Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire battle sprites

Many battle sprites of Pokemon in the four games that I mentioned in the headlines are missing from the Pokemon pages on Bulbapedia. It's too long for me to list, but you and Masatoshi forgot to upload the remaining images for the four games mentioned in the headline. Do you think you can find and upload the missing battle sprites (You might have to look at each of the various Pokemon pages on Bulbapedia to know which pages are missing images? Examples of Pokemon missing battle sprites includes Gyarados and Steelix. The missing battle sprites (in national Pokedex order) start at the page of Venusaur and end at the page of Hoopa. Ctc1017 (talk) 15:50, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply, I actually have the entire list of missing sprites, you'll notice that a lot of them are gendered Pokemon, and it comes down to the fact that we either do not have the other gendered model or can not tell which gender we do have. --Spriteit (talk) 10:54, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Berry Juice

I turned Berry Juice into a disambiguation page and then started looking at the pages that were linking directly to Berry Juice, to make them link directly to Drink#Berry Juice. I'm running into a bit of a quandry with a few pages, though.

List of Pokémon by wild held item, List of items in other languages, and List of in-game event Pokémon in Generation IV (and perhaps other pages, still checking) all have links to Berry Juice, but the templates making those links don't currently have a way to alter those links (without ruining the sprite). As it happens, I would be able to edit all three of those templates, but I'm wondering if I should.

First and foremost I guess: maybe I just shouldn't have changed Berry Juice from a redirect? Maybe those templates aren't supposed to need special links for the items, and maybe we really should just make a section about Juice Shoppe Berry Juices on Drink so none of this is a problem at all.

Supposing that's not an issue: maybe it's not worth messing with those templates (especially the one for wild held items) just for one item, maybe I should just not use the template at all and write out the row instead. (Though that would be a veritable nightmare for the Gen IV event, so maybe I'd just edit the template for that one...?)

Thoughts, please? =P Tiddlywinks (talk) 12:53, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

I think the best idea would be to revert the disambiguation and put another hatnote at the top of the page, as the Juice Shoppe is currently unique to a single game. I'd say err away from editing any of the templates, especially for the sake of a single item. I'd suggest not linking in the main item list as it can not be stored in the bag. Though an alternative would be to list it in the opening paragraph, after the bit about cheap alternative to potions. Something like Berry Juices with varying stat effects can be created at the Juice Shoppe in Pokémon X and Y however they must be used immediately, and can not be stored in the Player's bag. That way they still get a mention on the page without being delegated to a hatnote but the redirect still points directly to the page it is meant to. -Spriteit (talk) 13:10, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
'Kay, I can do that. I'll work on it, thanks. Tiddlywinks (talk) 13:14, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

So why did all the episodes get pushed up a number?

Is that why I couldn't edit anything last night? Unowninator (talk) 16:21, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Yes it is, it was to bring the Pikachu episode into its proper place in the airing order. --Spriteit (talk) 07:38, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Your underlevelled Pokemon page.

Not sure if you're still active but I have added some information to the page and added another column for artwork of the underlevelled Pokemon in a similar vein to the Anime Move Errors page. Would this page have the potential to become it's own page? Because I feel I could add lots of information to this page! Also are you alright with some slight modifications to the page so far? Nikuriku (talk) 12:49, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead it's open for anyone to edit. --Spriteit (talk) 09:49, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

DPPt dataminers

By any chance, do you know who does most of the datamining for Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum for Bulbapedia? sumwun (talk) 14:40, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Exceptions to "not unique so not notable" triviums

As you probably know, I removed the trivia about the Macy's Parade. Part of it was out of anger against certain people who kept undoing my trivia that I personally (yes I know this gets very subjective) thought were interesting. So can you please explain your understanding of Pokemon trivia rules so I can get a better idea of exactly what I'm allowed to add to trivia sections? sumwun (talk) 05:23, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Well I haven't personally gone through your history to look at what you've added that has been removed. My personal opinion regarding the Macy's Day parade is that it's a very significant occasion and would probably have needed the thumbs up from Nintendo. It's a very unique piece of information that doesn't belong anywhere else on the page, has no other place to find it on Bulbapedia and as a whole is interesting in and of itself. ForceFire, one of our staff members has drafted a trivia policy you can read further on here. Sorry for the late reply I've been moving. --Spriteit (talk) 09:23, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Problems with Bulbagarden Archives

Hey, I started reuploading the gen 2 Pokemon Go sprites to be transparent, but the image doesn't change at all. Is this a server or a traffic problem or am I doing something wrong? - - unsigned comment from Yaronos (talkcontribs)

You are not, it's just sometimes the network takes a little bit to fix the image server side, it's not instant. For example, I can tell that you've made Granbull transparent. Thanks very much for uploading them, it takes another job off my todo list! --Spriteit (talk) 13:33, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
I got it, thanks!

Template edit request

To accommodate the PI Trainer class being renamed "Gamer" again, could I ask you to edit the {{Trainerentry}} template to make "Gambler" and "PI" redirect to "Gamer" instead of "Gambler" and "Gamer" redirecting to "PI"? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 08:22, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Battle Frontier Split

Thanks for getting the Battle Frontier (Gen IV) articles finally split. I also have the Gen III Battle Frontier pages on my userspace as well, but let me know if you need me to fix anything before mainspacing it. TehPerson (talk) 16:09, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

It's all good, it's mostly just the relinking and filling in the pages for manga and stuff that will take a lot of the time. It's finicky and with LGPE stuff happening it was a bit of an odd time. --Spriteit (talk) 11:31, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Template:Hoenn, Template:Johto and Template:Sinnoh should also be updated with the new battle facility links, considering those navigation templates are already on the respective pages. TehPerson (talk) 20:49, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

I actually totally forgot about those pages you slightly fixed up. For the list of Trainers, we already got a good working list going, so you can delete the ones on my userspace. As for the Lists of Pokemon, a while ago some of us thought a sortable, tabular format would have been easier to read then the traditional Pokémon templates that we use for Gym Leaders, Frontier Brains, etc. Well, let me know what think, and if you agree the tabular format is better, I can put that back on my to-do list. TehPerson (talk) 07:14, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

GO move template update

As per your request, I have split the pending updates:

It now also has an optional "notes" parameter to include any miscellaneous notes (eg updates, etc). TehPerson (talk) 04:39, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I've pushed it back up to the upper staff members that can authorise the templates. --Spriteit (talk) 08:52, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Poké Ball item pages

I've created pages for individual Poké Balls as item pages, since there's a general consensus that each of them deserve a separate page, like all other kinds of items. Links are all here on the talk page.

As far as I know, almost all of them are complete enough to be mainspaced. No new templates. TehPerson (talk) 04:33, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Forwarded it up to the appropriate staff member, they're on break at the moment so should have time to fix and main space. I'm still waiting for a response regarding the GO templates, but I did pass another message up the chain. --Spriteit (talk) 06:02, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

New way to do the Field Research page

Since it's incredibly tedious to update the Field Research page, I've proposed using a new template and re-structuring how the page is done. I left a message on the Field Research talk page with a preview of the proposal. TehPerson (talk) 07:33, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

About Togekiss and HM Smart Strike

Hi, I did this modification because the Lumineon's page has the same trivia about HM https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lumineon_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#Trivia As far as I know, Lumineon and Togekiss are the only 2 Pokémon in USUM (3 in SM with Shiinotic) than can't learn an HM in their final evolution but some pre-evo can, so I thought it was a good idea to put this trivia because this is really uncommon. Have a nice day ! Carto (talk) 14:30, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing it out, I've removed it from Lumineon's page too. --Spriteit (talk) 07:30, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Prior Evolution

Hey Spriteit, About the last modification of Togetic and Togekiss you have undone, I think the correct version is SM and not USUM, check about other pokémon, for example check the Delcatty page https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Delcatty_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#By_a_prior_evolution or the Shiftry one https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shiftry_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#By_a_prior_evolution it's SM and not USUM.

I think this is not the version where the move tutor is present, but the version where the evolved Pokémon cannot learn at all the attack. Carto (talk) 01:31, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

After reading again : Oops, you're right, sorry about that, I thought Togepi could learn Uproar in SM but nope. Carto (talk) 02:39, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Removing Pokedex/Browser numbers from Pokemon Infobox

Just out of curiousity, why you removed Pokedex and Browser's numbers from Pokemon Infobox template? --Modikisha (talk) 10:16, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

It's because of how expansive it is to add dex numbers to older generations and trying to conform them to the template. The regional numbers are now found with the pokedex entries and side game data. Kai * the Arc Toraph 17:24, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
Basically, what was responded above. It was getting increasingly more difficult to include them in the infobox without doing some not so fun coding to keep it streamlined, instead, we relocated them to the appropriate templates on the pages (Pokedex entries and Ranger side game templates). It has been a project that has been in the work for a long while. It also makes the pages more mobile-friendly as they couldn't check the hover text that was listed. --Spriteit (talk) 01:29, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Move parameters

I noticed your recent contributions to learnset pages, and I figured I'll just ask whether you have "a list of move parameters per generation, in the desired template format" (#3 here), or rather whether you could publish it? (One idea would be to "complete" User:Dannyboy601/List of moves (Generation I) or set it up anew, but I'd be happy if it's CSVs, or any reasonable format really.)

I suggest you might as well answer at my talk page, if only because Suic would see it as well (hopefully). And if you wish to contribute any more than what I came here for, of course feel free to do so. Thank you. Nescientist (talk) 10:50, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Since you might have missed my answer on my talkpage: the "could you publish it" part of my question was arguably the more important one. Nescientist (talk) 18:08, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
Unfortunately, this takes a bit too long. I'll probably be trying to tackle this a little differently without your help. Not sure if it'll work out and when/if I'll get there, but the intention is that anyone may use that. Nescientist (talk) 13:25, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
Sorry for my absence, I had real-life drama going on with the bushfires in my country which I'm sure you can understand. I should hopefully be back somewhat and able to finish Gen VII learnset checking and then be up-to-date, admittedly, I'll need to kidnap Bulbabot to make this happen though. I'll clean up my data and put it up somewhere, I plan to have it done within the next few weeks (should it all go to plan). After that I'm going to confirm that everyone/everything that should be STABed is STABed. If there are any other questions you asked that require my input, let me know, it's been a very distracting few months. --Spriteit (talk) 13:26, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
I hope you and your life are alright, and wish you all the best in any case.
I had planned to be finished by now, but well, that hasn't happened. Lemme see how this weekend goes. My idea was to have (userspace) templates, which you can even subst within articles instead of copy-pasting all data from somewhere else. I'll output some list(s) once that's done (if it is; if not, then.. I might do the ordinary way regardless; ideally, it wouldn't hurt if we had two independent datasets to crosscheck against.) Nescientist (talk) 12:04, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
The individual templates are pretty much done, though I need to change some comments to noincludes. I think especially the Appeal data might be off, so you might already doublecheck that. I should have the full list ready by the end of next weekend, at User:Nescientist/Movedata.
What I was wondering is if "Varies" should continue to be a valid parameter, in a) species/learnset pages (like Eevee (Pokémon)/Generation VII learnset), b) move pages that are not Z-Moves (like Return), and c) move pages that are Z-Moves (like Breakneck Blitz). Maybe you could make up your mind, if you do have the time. Nescientist (talk) 16:34, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
Okay got some news for ya, firstly here's my data, left column shows most recent stats only (I believe) with each generation showing their own in the corresponding column. There may still be a few mistakes in there that I picked up as I was running the script and didn't copy the changes back over to the base table. Regardingvaries, I've removed it from every learnset page (4) and replaced it with the dash. General consensus atm seems to be the move pages should also reflect it exactly as it appears on the move info in-game, however I have one or two things I want to toy with before calling that. Z-moves would probably stay varies however since it wholly depends on the base move. --Spriteit (talk) 00:47, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I just checked your Generation VIII data against my list, the differences being
  • you got —, I got &mdash;
  • you're missing GenVIII updates, except for those LGPE special moves (which, in turn, I'm missing on purpose)
  • I have ??? for the type Z-Moves, and you don't
  • You have "Vice Grip", I have "Vise Grip".
...So I guess that's good.
Regarding the above, I also believe move pages (and any pages) should reflect in-game info exactly, unless that is flat-out wrong (like Nature Power). And when it's just internally and never shown (talking Generation I, mainly), we have a choice.
That means I would actually change Sonic Boom and Dragon Rage Generation II power. Do you want me to wait with that until you're done toying? Nescientist (talk) 11:33, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
FYI, as for Generation III, after comparing with your sheet, I corrected my mistakes, and your sheet differs in Supersonic, Dig, Smog, Fury Swipes, Nightmare, Bone Rush, Outrage, DragonBreath (spelling only), Memento, Meteor Mash. Many of those I believe you probably have correct elsewhere, but at least Meteor Mash I'm quite sure you haven't.
From now on, I think rather than spamming your talk page too much, I'll just get you a list of "your sheet still differs" when I'm done with all generations/pages. Nescientist (talk) 14:01, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
(Reset Indent) Fixed Gen 8 updates (Vise, Rapid Spin, Multi-Attack), Z-moves aren't on learnset pages so that's no big issue (though it would probably be nice). Regarding Sonic Boom and Dragon Rage what would you change them too since they're set damages given current template constrictions? As for Gen III, I fixed Supersonic, Dig, Fury Swipes and Outrage while doing my first run through as for the rest:
Smog - According to the move page power was 20 and didn't change to 30 till gen 6
Bone Rush - Move page has 4 Appeal in gen 3, 2 in gen 4
DragonBreath - The space appeared from Gen 6
Nightmare - Mine for gen 2 and 3 were wrong (— for Accuracy)
Memento - Mine was wrong for gen 3 (— for Accuracy)
Meteor Mash - Mine was wrong for gen 3 (2 Appeal, not 3)
Once you double check your data and confirm whether Smog, Bone Rush and DragonBreath are right or wrong on yours I'll go through and fix Nightmare, Memento and Meteor Mash (69 changes) --Spriteit (talk) 10:47, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Can confirm Smog, Bone Rush and DragonBreath were wrong. No idea why I marked them as correct on my end, probably got confused while watching the diff.
I would change Sonic Boom to "20" and Dragon Rage to "40" in Generation II, since I believe that's what you actually see in-game. Nescientist (talk) 13:37, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Regarding Nightmare and Memento how does the emerald pret differentiate between moves with 100% Accuracy and moves with — accuracy, been looking for another out of game source since I don't have access to a currently working Gen 2/3 game and no idea how to quickly test with a Game shark. --Spriteit (talk) 03:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
pokeemerald has several ways, unfortunately. For Nightmare and Memento, it's what I wrote in the edit summary, they never even access the accuracycheck routine, so their "100" accuracy is unused, basically. Nescientist (talk) 09:36, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
I think I corrected everything on my end, and our data still doesn't match at
  • Struggle in Generation I
  • Sonic Boom, Ice Beam/Blizzard, Dragon Rage in Generation II (I assumed you'd default to GenI column when GenII is empty)
  • Outrage in Generation III
  • Supersonic, Toxic, Giga Drain in Generation IV
  • nothing in Generation V
  • Knock Off in Generation VI
  • either Absorb, Mega Drain, Sky Attack; or Solar Beam in Generation VII (when compared to this; or that)
  • Absorb, Mega Drain, Solar Beam, Sky Attack in Generation VII
These, plus the Z-Moves' categories and special lgpe moves (ie ZippyZap, BouncyBubble and the 7 moves right after) we already talked about. Most of these appear to be typos, actually. Nescientist (talk) 12:17, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Gen I fixed, SB+DR I've taken to other staff, Fixed Ice Beam/Blizzard (just the wrong row), Outrage (missed a pipe), fixed all gen 4+6, I believe Absorb, Mega Drain, Solar Beam, Sky Attack in Generation VII are on their LGPE sets, changed them back to their regular game. All the changes you listed I had actually already fixed on my run through with the moves thankfully (I believe so anyway). That leaves us with just Sonic Boom, Dragon Rage, Memento and Nightmare.
DR+SB, these moves always deal set damage including in current gens, and it's stylised as an mdash isn't it? Why make Gen 2 the example? Seems a bit odd to make that the stand out
Memento and Nightmare, are there any other examples of this happening where the accuracycheck routine is bypassed (in any game). I think I've been asked to double check for consistency. --Spriteit (talk) 06:45, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
In Generation II, I believe the in-game user interface itself does not display mdash for DR+SB power, but rather 40 and 20. (Remember, Generation I didn't show power at all.) They seem to have changed that for Generation III.
And as I said, I believe we should use what the interface uses (unless that's flat-out wrong), because that's consistent; it's why we don't list Eruption's power or OHKO's accuracy as mdash, even though it would fit better imo.
Regarding accuracy routine bypass, some moves such as Nightmare or Mean Look bypass the accuracy check routine in Generation II (they don't call checkhit). Other moves bypass it in Generation III, too (for example, see Nature Power (move)#Trivia). Nothing in newer games that I'm aware of. Nescientist (talk) 17:31, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

(resetting indent)Hey, just wanna ask if you made any progress? I assume you haven't done your runthrough yet, right? Because as far as I can tell, at least the OHKO accuracies are still incorrect for the current generation, plus the above. I would probably be less efficient at that than you are, that's why I thought I'd ask. Nescientist (talk) 14:36, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

I've been told today we are leaning towards the actual/effective values, since there are moves like Nature Power which are just wrong. Which would change SB/DR to 20/40, Sheer Cold for Suicune. What would others that would be affected by this? Like you mentioned the OHKO accuracies but they match your gen 8 data. --Spriteit (talk) 01:59, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
When you say that the current generation's OHKO accuracies are still incorrect, what exactly do you mean? IMO, we should list them as 30% (like the games do); I think that's less misleading than — (since that normally implies the move never misses), and I'd rather defer to the game when it's somewhat subjective which display most accurately represents the game mechanics. (For Gen II/III moves that are actually never-miss but list an accuracy however, I do think we should list those as — regardless.)
For move powers, now that Fling takes into account the actual listed power (when flinging a TR), I definitely don't think we should diverge from what the game lists. So even though Eruption/Stored Power might seem to be more similar to a — power move, because the game recognizes them as their listed power, I don't think we should change the power we list. --SnorlaxMonster 04:03, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
I'm slightly confused what's going on, I'm just gonna assume I was a bit unclear somewhere. I was arguing exactly was SnorlaxMonster said (well, at least that's what I tried).
As for OHKO moves that are still wrong, that is only on some pages, not on either of our lists. A small sample right now gave me this Sheer Cold and this Fissure, for example, which do not adequately say "30%".
And just to avoid confusion, I didn't mean to change Fling's or Eruption's power etc., I used that as an argument for why, y'know, I'd rather defer to the game when it's somewhat subjective. Nescientist (talk) 08:34, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
I fixed the only Generation VIII learnset error which was the Lapras one.
Where I was confused was because the Suicune one you mentioned was a Generation VII learnset that is going to be removed hopefully in the near future from the page. I've already run through the Gen VII Learnset pages and I refuse to do so again because it took me far too long last time due to the mixture of mdash as words and mdash as the symbol.
As a result, that means other than removing the Gen VII learnsets from the main pages and substituting a This Pokémon does not appear in this generation as yet template with the learnset links, the only thing remaining is the DR/SB attack stat? Unless I've missed something else? --Spriteit (talk) 14:30, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
I actually didn't realize that I was looking at Generation VII data, nor that Generation VIII was mostly correct. The learnset pages I believe are all fine, but the species pages I was unsure about.
I think that's it, yes. (That plus editing all pre-GenVIII header templates which need to link to GenVIII/species pages.) Again, feel free to tell me if I could help. Nescientist (talk) 16:34, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
For what it's worth, IMO we should list Sonic Boom and Dragon Rage as — power in all generations, regardless of what the game says. I think listing them as having a power is misleading, even if the games are misleading in the same way. (Although as always, I am interested to see if Stadium 2 lists a different value to the handheld games.) --SnorlaxMonster 07:14, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
I'm not sure it's that misleading. Back in GenII, they basically had a choice for fixed-damage moves, and they chose to list the HP as power. They later changed it, and now Generation II is inconsistent with that. Now imagine they had not changed it, wouldn't we still all say and think "Dragon Rage has a power of 40 (HP)", at least to some degree? Basically, my argument is that there's no reason power display must be strictly "power as in the damage formula", much like accuracy display isn't always "accuracy as in the standard accuracy formula".
Anyway, either way is fine. Please notify me once you've sorted it out (or change my /Movedata subpages, if it's supposed to be mdash still). Nescientist (talk) 14:11, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
I realize that we apparently never finished this Dragon Rage / SonicBoom power discussion for Generation II, and now appear to have an inconsistency between transfer data and (probably?) the rest. I believe it's only few pages to fix, but I'd have to know which direction I'd like to fix it, so maybe one of you guys wanna finalize this discussion (not sure if some info from Stadium 2 had emerged)? Nescientist (talk) 13:39, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
I defer to SM in this discussion, since when it comes to game info stuff, they are generally the person I follow, the other option is abcboy, our Head of Games. -Spriteit (talk) 12:29, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
I'm just gonna go with the numbers, so I can strike this off my todo list. SnorlaxMonster is welcome to reverse (should be easy enough). Nescientist (talk) 14:09, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

OHKO accuracy

Excuse me, but you seem to be a little inconsistent regarding OHKO moves: Did you actually mean to change the OHKO moves' accuracies in Generation III (like here)? If so, you should probably change it all across Bulbapedia (including the GenII and GenVII learnset pages where you recently didn't). In my opinion, either changing it all around or not at all may be reasonable, but only changing it partially seems/seemed weird. While I've restored the change at list of modified moves by just undoing your revision, if you actually choose to change it all around, it would only be consistent if you then replaced the dashes with 30%s, I guess. Nescientist (talk) 17:23, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

The diassembly of Crystal shows that the accuracy for the OHKO moves is 30%, I am in the process of changing across the entirety of Bulbapedia as I'm sure you can see from my edit history where I have been modifying a lot of prior generations move pages to reflect correct data.
For Gen 2 I forgot to swap the values of Guillotine and Fissure, but I did remember Horn Drill. I will go through and correct that now. Gen VII I haven't yet corrected as my priority with them was getting them moved onto their own pages before Sword and Shield are released since that was a massive undertaking. Unfortunately I got a little stuck on Gen 6 atm when I both realised what I had set up was not in fact capturing emdashes (which is why I've gone back to previous gens) and Gen VI has the contest conditions after the Symbols and STAB indicators which messed me around a bit. It's a work in progress. If you find any other issues please let me know. --Spriteit (talk) 22:41, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
Alright, I'm probably gonna fail horribly, but I'll try to keep this short and organized:
  1. No, I wasn't sure, I came here to ask for what I could not see. But yes, I appreciate your efforts to support correct data.
  2. (Not sure if you already understood that, but..) What I found out when I updated/corrected list of modified moves some years ago is that the move data itself is not reliable prior to GenIV. (It's not limited to accuracy.) And one more reason to neglect that data and favor the actual accuracies is that you don't get to see the accuracy data prior to Generation III anyway. For example, Swift lists 100% in that Crystal disassembly you linked, and Vital Throw lists 100% in Generation III (even in-game).
  3. (Still not sure if you knew, so just reiterating that..) Those cases where functional and display changes differ are hidden within list of modified moves. (That too isn't limited to accuracy; accuracy inconsistencies are outlined at individual move trivia sections as well.) I think it's important to have that documented (even when it's not visible to readers), and I'm quite delighted that you can actually use that single page to doublecheck against anything else.
  4. I've answered at Talk:List of modified moves what I think belongs there.
  5. If there's anything where you think I could assist, feel free to say so. I just don't want to interfere too much. Nescientist (talk) 12:38, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Request: Pokémon GO Spindata template update

I've noticed for a while that Template:Spindata/GO is very out-of-date, basically not accounting for 2 years of added features. I've played around with a lot of ideas and wanted to see if you can push this one to get approved (eventually):


Basically I feel the PoGO guides on BP should at least be as complete as those on the other sites'- i.e. starters listing the maximum possible CP (most recently, with and without Best Buddy boost), cost to teach new moves, and catch & flee rates. Also find it useful for such a template to be able to fully utilize all the model icons made available to show the gender differences, shiny forms, and especially PoGO event-exclusive costumes.

I've made a point to make sure existing parameters are mostly unaffected, so if this new one were to be mainspaced right now, then all data from the current template will be preserved. TehPerson (talk) 04:07, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

I wholeheartedly agree with you and I've literally just pushed for this update (again) today not two hours before you messaged. I also pushed for your Fast, Charged and Learnlist templates as well. I'm surprised you're pushing for that version as opposed to this one, is there a particular reason why? --Spriteit (talk)
The movelist was way too complicated, and seeing how Niantic has been updating moves much more frequently, it would just be a pain to continuously maintain. And since making that, I just went ahead and change the Template:GoChargedAttack and Template:GoFastAttack so they have complete information. And that version I linked can at least be immediately mainspaced without wreaking havoc on the existing articles. TehPerson (talk) 07:27, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Just to let you know I've put in a special request to try and fast track this ASAP. --Spriteit (talk) 11:06, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay, after taking it to the staff, there were several comments/concerns raised, which is why I trialed out some stuff on the talk page of the template as you probably saw. First was whether a gallery with all the forms, being likely unnecessary, with a link to the specific Pokémon and the form differences page for Go sufficing (the exception being m/f and standard shiny). This would also remove all the 'event history' in the forms section. This was noted to be especially bad with Pikachu, however, forms with different stats, such as Libre, would still have their own boxes. We also toyed with the idea of removing the Egg distances, and while in the past when they were more consistent it was a nice idea, we've decided the parameter should probably be removed from a future template update.
For Legacy moves, I noticed you originally had them italicised, I changed it to have specific wording when I was testing, this was mainly as when it comes to moves, italics we have cemented mean 'STAB on evolution or form change', this isn't the case here in Go as each evolution moveset is unrelated to the previous. Sorry again for this taking so long, let me know what you think, now that the balls rolling responses should be swifter.--Spriteit (talk) 13:07, 2 May 2020 (UTC)


With how the "Three Fires" article was removed, I wonder: should the "Subleaders of the Sea Scheme" be removed too in the same vein? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:21, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Short answer, yes. Long answer, I'm in the middle of doing it but I'm also on call this week for work and got called out in the middle of doing it. --Spriteit (talk) 15:14, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Got it. Thank you for doing it. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 06:05, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Template edit request

I saw you edit Template:Held to accommodate a page move. However, I noticed that the "EV-enhancing item" link exists on the template twice, and you only edited one of the links. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 12:13, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for catching that, fixed. --Spriteit (talk) 12:53, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
You're welcome. :) --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:05, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

EiC and EB pages terminology change

Hey there,

On the Editor-in-Chief and Editorial Board talk pages a few months ago, I had pointed out that there's some outdated language regarding webmasters vs executive policymakers that probably should be updated. Would you mind taking a look and/or making the necessary changes to that wording? Thanks!

RotaRaichu (talk) 09:53, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

We were updating the staff pages to reflect changes currently being made across all the sites under the Buulbagarden umbrella. This is, however, a discussion for the broader senior staff above me. I've passed along your message but they are still discussing some nuanced details to the project and are still unfinished. They should hopefully conclude soon! --Spriteit (talk) 04:33, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Understood, thanks for the reply! RotaRaichu (talk) 10:31, 17 May 2020 (UTC)


I have posted a new comment on the linked template's talk page. --Bfdifan2006 16:24, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

I saw, but I also have real life commitments. --Spriteit (talk) 01:21, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Linking between learnset pages

Hey, I see you were updating some Pokémon pages and learnset templates to better reflect generation VIII. While you're at it, I was wondering if you could fix a related issue. Right now, the templates of the learnset pages from generations I to VI have a link to the main page as if it was generation VII (instead of VIII), and have no link leading to gen VII learnset. Similarly, in gen VII learnset pages, the link to the main page says it is to gen VII, instead of gen VIII. I imagine it shouldn't be too hard to fix, so can you take a look at it when you have the time? Suic (talk) 12:47, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

I'd already planned to fix that once I'd gone through and finished adding the new NA template. --Spriteit (talk) 11:49, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Edit war

BTCGBP2004 (talkcontribs) is edit warring on List of anime specials, refusing to use a talk page and leaving impolite comments on the edit summaries. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:24, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

To put it out there, as an experienced user, you were just as able to take it to the talk page especially when the user was changing the text to match what was presented elsewhere on Bulbapedia. --Spriteit (talk) 03:27, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Nikkitalks is at it again

Nikkitalks is once again spamming the welcome template on new users that haven't made any edits. ¿¡Unowninator?! (talk) 03:05, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

NVM, Abcboy took care of it. ¿¡Unowninator?! (talk) 03:11, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Recurring Pokémon

I see you've updated the links for the recurring Pokémon, was wondering if you could help on a few of my user page articles? User:BigDocFan/Sun and Moon Voice Actor Predictions, User:BigDocFan/Pokémon Voice Actor list Generation 1-4, User:BigDocFan/Pokémon Voice Actor list Generation 5-7, User:BigDocFan/XY Series Cast lists, User:BigDocFan/Sun and Moon Cast lists, User:BigDocFan/Pokémon Journeys Voice Actor Predictions for example--BigDocFan (talk) 13:42, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

I think I got them all. --Spriteit (talk) 03:19, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I did try myself but the link turned out dead so thought I would ask someone with experience to do it--BigDocFan (talk) 09:02, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Number of Pokemon

Can I add to the type pages functions that calculate number of Pokemon:

  • As of Generation VIII, there are {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Dark-type Pokémon|pages}} Dark-type Pokémon or {{#expr: ({{PAGESINCATEGORY:Dark-type Pokémon|pages}}/{{numpkmn}}*100) round2}}% of all Pokémon.
  • As of Generation VIII, there are 82 Dark-type Pokémon or 8% of all Pokémon.

So it won't need to be recalculated for every type every time a new Pokemon is added?--Rocket Grunt 10:38, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Whilst that sounds good in theory, I'm not overly sure how we calculate that when it comes to forms, whether they are counted as separate Pokemon or not. For example, would Darmanitan count three times (Zen, GZen and Standard) or just once. Using your method it would only count once, when it could also be argued it should count twice (Unovan and Galarian). --Spriteit (talk) 10:34, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Pokemon is added to the sum if at least one of its forms has the type. It is always stated when necessary, you can look it up. I checked every type and the formula gives the same numbers as they are on the pages right now. The only exception is Normal which needs to be substracted by 8 because of 8 Pokemon (Cleffa, Clefairy, Clefable, Togepi, Togetic, Togekiss, Snubbull and Granbull) but I can easily fix that.--Rocket Grunt 11:30, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
So it wouldn't be a problem? Or should I ask someone else?--Rocket Grunt 10:23, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
I have been thinking about this and haven't forgotten, just been preoccupied with other stuff and noodling out whether we want to go down the path of making forms that can't be changed count for multiple. So Darmanitan would count Fire twice, once for normal once for regional but not three times since that can freely change, I've been too preoccupied to crunch the numbers presently. --Spriteit (talk) 12:51, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
This would also affect things such as Wormadam (but not Burmy, since they can change freely) and Shellos/Gastrodon (West+East would be counted separately), but I'm not sure if it would be considered too hard basket. --Spriteit (talk) 12:56, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
I think what you've decided should be fine, it'd be good to check and make sure there are no userpages in those categories that need to be accounted for though. --Spriteit (talk) 00:46, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
I checked everything long before I asked and SnorlaxMonster has already agreed.--Rocket Grunt 15:35, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Template edit requests

Apparently, no admin regularly checks the Template talk: namespace (I believe except when you occasionally do). So yeah, could you have a look now, please? (I reported bugs, which I'm sure you'll easily understand since you edited the templates most recently.) Thanks. Nescientist (talk) 20:37, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

I think I fixed them all, though I have realised that I need to go through all the TM templates and fix the linkings to the right section names (By TM, By TM/TR, By TM/HM) and I need to create two new breed footers too. I also know I need to add sorting to all the headers because apparently, that isn't a thing for some reason? --Spriteit (talk) 12:48, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. You made a typo at the prevo one, though.
I believe prevo is the headers you plan to add sorting to? To be honest, I didn't realize there was no sorting. But yeah, that's probably a good thing, but they're protected so they're all yours. (If you seek assistance, though, as always, feel free to reach out.) Nescientist (talk) 17:46, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
Fixed preevo, and I don't know why the moves aren't sortable either, so seeing if I can work that out. --Spriteit (talk) 00:34, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Account Name Request

I would like my account name to be changed to Afirafi. - unsigned comment from Akurochan (talkcontribs)

This should be able to be done however I'll probably wait to organise it till after we do the server upgrade which is planned for the near future. Otherwise, it may cause synchronisation issues. --Spriteit (talk) 08:25, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Redirect fix

Yesterday, I noticed that hundreds of pages, mostly past generation learnset pages, that have the Move Tutor link incorrectly typed as "Move tutor", creating a redirect. Could you or some other admin perhaps fix this? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 13:31, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Nevermind. Already being taken care of. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 15:53, 15 February 2021 (UTC)


Congratulations on the promotion! --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 10:37, 7 March 2021 (UTC)


Regarding this subject, now that said update has been carried out, will those models be out to use in the near future? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 20:29, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your congratulations above. Unfortunately, the update was not able to be completed due to unexpected hardware issues, so we're currently waiting for that to get fixed. Sorry. --Spriteit (talk) 23:39, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
You're welcome! And I see. That's unfortunate. Well, no can do. Hopefully that'll be fixed soon. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 09:13, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Now that the update was successful, will the models be added to the templates in the near future? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:17, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Eventually yes, once we finish trouble shooting some bugs. --Spriteit (talk) 14:24, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Understandable. I'll be waiting. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 14:26, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

I tagged two pages for moving

According to Cyrus in Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, Dialga is the ancient deity of time, and Palkia is the ancient deity of space and dimensions, so the legendary trio consisting of Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina is called the ancient deities. "Creation trio" and "Creation trio (Adventures)" should respectively be moved to "Ancient deities" and "Ancient deities (Adventures)" if you would, please. --SaturnMario, his talk and his contributions 23:26, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Egg Pokémon (Masters)

Aw, so that was the problem! I'll remove the consecutive break-line codes, then. Thank you for telling me. Also, I appreciate your offer to bring back my edited work, but I saved all that, so I don't need that help for now. With all those in mind, I'll proceed to edit the page "Egg Pokémon (Masters)". Thanks again! Solemn Mac (talk) 23:37, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Why are the shipping pages being deleted?

They were an excellent resource to learn about ships and the pokémon fandom community, especially for people new to pokémon or who didn't watch certain seasons. I know they were very informative for me.

I don't see why not even smaller lists like the List of game shippings page are being allowed to stay. It doesn't even seem like they're being moved somewhere, and the pages don't give a reason why they were deleted. Andre1070 (talk) 14:14, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi there, the topic was raised here back in May to no response. Bulbapedia has frequently struggled with the Shipping section and it has been a frequent point of contention within the community as to whether it really belongs, we are an encyclopedia and we do our best to focus on the facts. The majority of shipping pages comprised of 'hints' and inferences that were at times strenuous at best, and at worst had little to no evidence at all. They also historically and presently weren't maintained very well with no real standard for what was acceptable. The like of game ships for example was slim, to say the least. It is almost wholely fanon and as such we have directed people interested in Shipping to the Shippers Paradise section of our forums. As for the list of game ships, they aren't being kept, I'm still wrapping up the (as I'm sure you could understand) beefy project.
I'm sorry that this answer is probably disappointing to you, but I encourage you to join our forums and partake in the Shipping section there if that is where you find enjoyment within the fandom. --Spriteit (talk) 23:57, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Okay. Thank you for the polite and informative reply, I appreciate it. I'll try to think about what I can do to make up for this loss. Andre1070 (talk) 15:14, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Template:Spindata/GO (revisit)

Hey, it's been a while, but I've gotten to making another version of the sidegame template for Pokémon GO. Since there's a new editorial board since the last version, I'd like to see if we can move forward with anything like this: User talk:TehPerson/Spindata/GO (still sort of a work in progress, but 95%+ complete)

TehPerson (talk) 19:28, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Sorry for the late response, I was on leave for a couple of months sorting out some real-life issues, COVID etc. I've passed it on and I'm hopeful for this time. --Spriteit (talk) 10:41, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Okay, got some feedback for you, one of the big issues atm is gonna be the number of parsers at 87 and the current one which uses none. We've worked hard to get rid of these off the pages as they can easily inflate page sizes and loading times and it is the reason why the spinoff boxes are all their own boxes, and why we broke up the availability and dex templates to be independent. These are primarily found in the evo box, so I think that section may have to go completely. The next portion is the Mega box which I think may work as its own sidebox (Spindata/GO, Spindata/GO/Mega, maybe also Soindata/GO/Forms) we'd need to determine a limit on these lists those, Pikachus 30 hats are...excessive to say the least. The box breaks a bit in mobile too, which for a mobile game isn't optimal. This is somewhat due to the vertical movelists (which present some more issues in the empty space on the lists). Fear not, I come with suggestions though (click) Taking out the evo box, I'd add a line below the dodge type that extends the remaining of the whole box for the evolution method. For the icons before the moves I'd suggest maybe using the Medal icons in place of the white background ones (File:GO Dragon M.png). They can be smaller and still retain icon definition. Final thing is that we'd need to make sure dodge type is linking to the Caught Pokémon page, since that defines those terms. --Spriteit (talk) 06:07, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
Here there, wanted to get back to you on this with somewhat of a bold suggestion. Would the staff entertain the idea of having a GO subpage for each of the species? Unlike other side games, Pokemon GO has become almost like a core series game, with move sets and evolution methods, location info, etc. Every Pokemon has so much GO-related content, it can't really fit in just a sidegames section. (This is similar to how we have a Giovanni, Giovanni (GO) and Giovanni (Masters) )TehPerson (talk) 07:18, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
There has been talk about it, but it would be a huge project, so traction has been slow. --Spriteit (talk) 06:30, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
I can dedicate some time into crafting something. Since the last message, I noticed SnorlaxMonster had already made a draft half a year earlier. I also made a completely separate draft prior to finding out. But yes, it does look like it would be almost another full Project Pokedex on the side. TehPerson (talk) 21:45, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Rewriting the Amourshipping Page

After seeing a recent edit barrage on the Amourshipping (which apparently got marked with a pending for deletion at one point), I realized that the page hasn't been given the makeover that Pokeshipping and Rocketshipping has gotten despite being considered the big three. Having followed Amourshipping fandom since the day it was revealed that Serena knew Ash from childhood, I would be willing to help with the page rewrite in any way possible (though I will admit, I am inexperienced with Bulbapedia's style of page format) just to keep the page from going through today's barrage of edits. Also, I think the iconic kiss scene should be the main image just because it's usually the first thing people hear when discussing about this ship today, especially with Pokémon Twitter showing it on Kalos Month and Valentines' Day. Shadao (talk) 06:50, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

I'd appreciate that, I became more focused on getting the rest of the stuff done rather then finishing thatpage. As such I was going to leave it to the other users. --Spriteit (talk) 10:41, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

New template(s)

For a while now, I've thought that User:Abcboy/Form should be mainspaced. Do you think you can help with that?
I also have a potential idea for another template. Could {{DL|List of Goh's Pokémon|<Pokémon>}} be replaced with something like this: {{Goh|<Pokémon>}}? I think it's a valid idea, given how common links to that list are. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 11:02, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

I'll see what the other EB say. --Spriteit (talk) 12:30, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. I've tried asking about mainspacing the "Form" template from several other admins, but as far as I know, none of them have responded regarding the matter. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 21:24, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
Any response from the EB yet? Also, I'd like to change the lists of Z-Moves and Max Moves a Pokémon has used to resemble the regular move templates. I can understand this template style being used for improvised moves, but for Z-Moves and Max Moves, I feel having the description on the Pokémon's page is pointless, as it's the move article's job to house the description. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 22:44, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
Page has been mainspaced, for that question I'm gonna point you to maybe Project anime, I'm not familiar enough with the needs or requirements of the template. --Spriteit (talk) 02:14, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Another shipping topic

Hi, back when you nuked the shipping section, your justification for keeping the few ships that you did was "All of these have had effects on the fandom that transcend the base anime". I was just wondering if you could expand on what exactly that means? --Pokelova (talk) 14:10, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

PokeShipping and RocketShipping were shown in manga spin-offs, as well as other anime adjacent projects like songs and radio dramas, and AmourShipping has been acknowledged in interviews and media outside of the anime, such as from show staff and official Twitter accounts. --Spriteit (talk) 00:33, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

May I please update your Masters template?


Did you know that as of August 28, 2021 at 6:00 p.m. UTC, the Pokémon Masters EX game raised all sync pairs' level cap from Level 135 to 140? For preciseness, we must follow suit.

Plus, to accommodate for some sync pairs having multiple move types, I believe that the section "Move type" should instead be "Move type(s)."

So, may I please edit the Masters template accordingly to upkeep our accuracy? Thank you.Solemn Mac (talk) 15:50, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Not to sound silly, but I'm not sure which particular template you're referring too, I've made a couple of them. I know the one that goes on the Trainers page does handle the different move types already. As for Level 140, that should be fine to update all the pages just need to be updated accordingly as well. --Spriteit (talk) 08:12, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
I'm talking about updating Template:Masters. I'm glad that it already handles multiple move types, and I thank you for your permission on modernizing its details. I'll make sure that this template in each PMEX's trainer's page have its due corrections. Solemn Mac (talk) 04:38, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
As per below I've been without a computer, do you have an update on this? Is there anything you need me to do? I'm sorry for the late response. --Spriteit (talk) 06:30, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

New Snap

You seem to have been relatively inactive lately. Do you have plans to continue adding New Snap info to Lental locations at some point? --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 09:05, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

I had as my computer had died. However now I'm back in business, I'd love to add that info but I haven't been able to and it is very time consuming to add. At this stage if I do it will be over a longer period of time. If you are interested in helping out I encourage you to do so. --Spriteit (talk) 06:30, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Makes sense. Good to see your computer is back up. I'd love to help, since I hate incompleteness. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 09:19, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Pokémon pages for GO (re-revisited)

I made some more progress in getting a prototype GO species page going -- Example using Venusaur

  • I know you mentioned way back that lookup templates like these may hit parser limits on the big Pokémon species pages.
    • But now, since it will exclusively be used on GO pages, I created one for movelists only. Niantic updates moves every 3 months, and having to go back and change every instance makes no practical sense. (I tried rendering an entry for every single move on one page- no limit hit.)
  • I already have scripts half-made to automate generating most raw text for every species' GO page (using Pokemon GO's GAME_MASTER + in-game texts). The only thing missing will be most "Availability" data, which has to be manually collected (but we already have the species' debut and shiny release dates, which are the most important).

TehPerson (talk) 05:57, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Long story short, I thought I'd already responded, but I didn't realise that the page must have had a session lost or something. SM did a similar concept a while back, pe4rsonally I feel ilke we don't need to duplicate the evo boxes for purification and mega ebolution, that info could probably be merged into the Infobox. The type effectiveness box looks not fantastic on mobile and the learnset infobox having images is non functional on mobile, making using them as a key not practical. Other concerns were the size of the candies/evo energy in the box, the stat section has no need for bars. --Spriteit (talk) 12:29, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Needed template

Hey, can you please create {{groupstats/10}}? It is currently needed for Pseudo-legendary Pokémon. Thanks! Mr. Daikon (talk) 04:59, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

I'm sure you know this, but done. --Spriteit (talk) 12:29, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

User namespace pages

I would like to mainspace User:Bfdifan2006/Wishing Chip, and you asked on the Discord server for the reasons. I think you might have missed them due to the delay, which was because I was at school and hadn't had time to write a full list. Here it is then:

Additionally, some other questions:

  1. Can I move User:Bfdifan2006/Template:Stats/LA (and its talk page) to the mainspace?
  2. Do you support the move of Island Kahuna to Island kahuna (note the lowercase K)? The reason is the fact almost all in-game dialogue refers to them without capitalizing any of the words.
  3. Can I move these pages (User:Keyacom/Template:NewMove, User:Keyacom/Number glitch Pokémon, User:Keyacom/E O, User:Keyacom/Pronunciation, User:Keyacom/Gradient and User:Keyacom/List of fishing encounters), all being pages from my old userspace, to my new userspace?
  4. Do you support the split of List of Raid Boss changes (2020)? I want to split the page because it has too many templates.
  5. I made a new version of {{Starter Pokémon}}, under User:Bfdifan2006/Starter Pokémon. This is to both use a responsive CSS flexbox, as well as to fix the error with the heading, which causes it to not have rounded corners. (Just one quote mark was missing, by the way.) Is it considered for mainspacing?

Let me hear your thoughts about all this. --Bfdifan2006! Or is he actually Keyacom? 21:18, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

You've already moved your own sandbox pages. When it comes to templates, I am not versed enough in them to approve changes, especially widely used ones like the base stat one, I'm even less versed in CSS, so that's the stat and Starter Pokémon pages. Glik took care of the Island kahuna page, the Raid Changes would have been a no as I know we were working on solutions behind the machines. I think that covers all of it. As Glik has told you (since I didn't answer fast enough), the rest have been put to EB. --Spriteit (talk) 12:29, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
For my own sandbox pages, I moved them myself, but forgot to tell you so. As for the list of Raid Boss changes, the template include size has been taken care of and I myself called the split off. And for the island kahuna page, I also forgot to tell you. The PLA stat template is actually more important than to update the Starter Pokémon template, as PLA has a different stat calculation system and we just don't want to end up with a notice saying, "Due to the different way stats are calculated in Pokémon Legends: Arceus, exact minimum and maximum stats are not shown in this table". Before mainspacing it though, I guess this notice will suffice. And what about my Wishing Chip draft? --Bfdifan2006 (T/C) 16:53, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
As I said (and as Glik has as well), the rest have been referred up to the EB. I'm reluctant to just go ahead and mainspace the Wishing Chip page because I don't want to start a precedent for creating pages for items that don't really need them. As I said as well, I am not versed in templates and as a result can not and will not approve them without others who are more versed in them having reviewed them. --Spriteit (talk) 09:01, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Understood. Just notify me if the EB agrees. --Bfdifan2006 (T/C) 10:24, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

I am being indirectly blocked

Due to the blocking of RudolfSkinner06, it is affecting my account due to the IP address and I am unable to work on the latest Pokémon Adventures work so I do not know what I can do. -Tyler53841 (talk) 00:32, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

I've just amended the block to the user and hopefully you should be free to edit now, could you check for me? --Spriteit (talk) 00:37, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
It is still being slow, that is a sign that it is still happening, but if that screen pulls up again (though it still allows me to edit which is how I sent the message) I will let you know. -Tyler53841 (talk) 00:46, 13 April 2022 (UTC)


[1] I saw this list here with some tasks to be done, I was trying to solve some of the problems mentioned, but I saw that some are from pages that some staff member deleted. I thought it would be a good way to contribute by helping with some things on the list. What should actually be done with this list? Am I free to create the redirect to pages that have already been deleted?--Hikaru Wazana (talk) 16:34, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

I'd require specific examples of which ones have been deleted, but generally in that list it is ones that require to be created, thus, wanted pages. --Spriteit (talk) 12:21, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Move templates

Greetings! I see that you are the one who usually creates the templates, so I come to you with my requests for the ones that should exist (don't know whether I can create them or not). The templates Template:Learnlist/breed9, learnlist/prevo9null, learnlist/prevof/9 are needed to add egg moves and moves exclusive to prior evolutions (yes, they are back). I converted every single moveset to the Bulbapedia formatting and I am ready to add them, but I can't until these templates don't exist. Thanks in advance! Oneofthosedf (talk) (contribs) 23:24, 17 November 2022 (UTC)