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Yawn. Well, here it is, a new, clean slate. Again. Hopefully Project Overgrow's work will allow there to be a longer time between now and the next archive. Maybe long enough to get us to Phase III...?

User:TTEchidna/TCG/Darkness times2

Please figure out a way to not categorize this into the no image card category. It is the only User: one.--Mew a.k.a. Prmatt11 19:12, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

It's not a problem. It's getting deleted soon enough. ^Maverick _Nate 19:17, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Plus, if we could find the card it's based on... TTEchidna 22:08, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Pictures

Is it just my computer, or are pictures not showing up on the website? When I go to a page the pictures just don't appear. --Hoenn Master 00:19, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

It's because the DNS for the archives is screwed up.--RexRacer -talk 00:24, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Rex, you are totally right! I can't access the archives and no pics have been showing up at all! And just another thing, earlier today, I tried to access JUST Bulbapeda and I couldn't, it said the website was encountering problems or something. Totally weird...--DRAGON BEAST ^X 01:00, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

It's a problem with the DNS. There is a workaround, but I forget it. The problem should be fixed shortly, though. --ニョロトノ 666 01:02, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

For your attention

Sorry to bug you again but just to let you know I've discussed some stuff on Template talk:Player and Template talk:Pokelist.

My bad, signed. -–<×vVvv_v τ^λικ _to ς1^tHςι_4γ3r ^^vVv×>–- 11:43, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

What I brought up in the other archive

When I showed you that thing in my sandbox I didn't mean for it to stay there. It was just to show you the basic idea and maybe have it implemented to the main space. What do you think? Also, on a somewhat unrelated note, has all of Bulbagarden been down lately?--Mister E 13 03:12, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Probably due to Project: Overgrow. --((Marton imos)) 04:15, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

nah.--FF(edits-talk) 04:17, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Ah, like a sprite naming standard? Expand on it if you want to, then we'll see... TTEchidna 04:53, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Like a place to request sprites to be uploaded, renamed, maybe even modified slightly. One could ask for some of them to have a specific naming convention but not necessairily all of them.--Mister E 13 13:35, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I could come up with other examples, such as the bag sprite conventions you discussed in the other archive. A page like mine could let most people know that it's going on and could encourage participation. Also, say it wasn't already done and I wanted Poké Assist and Field Move sprites to be ripped from the Ranger games and uploaded but I cannot rip sprites. It lets someone who can, wants to help out and has free time know that it needs to be done. Also of note, Unown Trozei sprites, PMD2 alternate forme images, etc. All of these, and perhaps the ocasionnal template request could be requested on a page similar to th example I made in my sandbox--Mister E 13 22:12, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. Well, expand on that idea on the page, then... and um... stuff. I dunno. Wiki forum it. TTEchidna 03:23, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Wiki forum? Like a poll?--Mister E 13 04:53, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Or just a thread. TTEchidna 05:38, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Martonimos's section for whining

I have you on record as saying that "redirects are bad." Meanwhile, Cipher attributes you to saying that linking to a redirect doesn't matter. Since I'm a whiny zealot, I'd like some closure on this issue; basically, is this a bad idea? --((Marton imos)) 14:32, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Redirects are bad in many cases. For games, no. Pokémon FireRed Version will always redirect to Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions. The problem comes up when people decide "O HAY REDUREKTS R OK SO I LINK TO Jumpluff and Mewtwo and Pichu and Dawn and Ash and Brock and May. THOSE REDIRECT RITE?"

If I endorse redirects, that'll allow people to come and say "DONT YELL ABOUT ME LINKING TO MEWTWO WITHOUT THE TEMPLATE REDIRECTS ARE OKAY LET'S GET RID OF THE LINK TEMPLATES YAY".

Yes it's an extreme example... but eh. TTEchidna 21:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Flashbacks

Can flashbacks count as appearances? Because Jmath is removing the infobox from Alan, but I tihnk that a flashback is able to count as an appearance. Chocolate (Chat with Me) 20:05, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

It was already discussed before. This isn't something new. Jm a th 20:15, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Show me where it was discussed. Chocolate (Chat with Me) 20:16, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Ask Kenji-girl... Jm a th 20:17, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

As far as I can see, a mention that he was in both episodes is fine but I wouldn't call one episode and one unrelated flashback "recurring".--Mister E 13 20:52, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Flashback doesn't make you recurring. It counts as an appearance, yes, for the purposes of the episode's listing of characters, but doesn't count as a reappearance if a COTD appears in one. TTEchidna 21:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

What about cameos? Jm a th 21:50, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Live-action ones, yes, sure, but again, not for an infobox unless they're established as recurring already... Marina's cameo in DP010 doesn't count. TTEchidna 00:06, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Japanese Text Problem

Ever since I had to reboot my computer from the very beginning (it basically crashed), all Japanese text on the site looks like this: ポケモンコンテスト

Is there a way to change it? --Hoenn Master 02:35, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Um. It's fine for me. If you meant that it's now boxes, well, what OS? XP? Wikipedia's actually useful in this instance: this page oughta work. TTEchidna 03:22, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me But. . .

I didnt really know where to ask this but how do you change a signature. As you can see mine is the normal/bland way. -> --Landfish7 14:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Ah..just to say, I helped him already. And also, TTE, could you check your talk page on the Archives if you haven't already done so? Thanks.--^☆Tavis ource 18:49, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Charon

TTEchidna, can I change Pluto to Charon? Gamestop's Platinum page uses the name Charon. Same with Looker/Handsome.--Alec9 20:20, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Ehhh... I really think we oughta wait a little bit longer for Pokémon.com to reveal the names... but... eh. Wikiforum it. TTEchidna 01:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikiforum?--Alec9 02:12, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh. Never mind Found it.--Alec9 02:14, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Some say change it, some say no.Alec9 05:29, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Can you

ask the evil robot to do this:

00:00, 20 January 2009 BulbaBot (Talk | contribs) blocked Diby (Talk | contribs) with an expiry time of April 25, 2010 00:00:00 (account creation disabled, e-mail blocked) ‎ (You have not been useful. Puny human.)

Read my talk page for reasons.--Di b y 13:48, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

So you wanna be blocked for a year and a half by BulbaBot? TTEchidna 17:32, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. And I want my pages protected for that time.--Di b y 18:05, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

All of them? TTEchidna 19:19, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, you're in the top 16 for TCOTM. If you want that rename come your return next year, you got it. TTEchidna 19:25, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

New version for a template

User:EspeonA/Sandbox (Disregard the header and footer.) How's this? There's a link to the test page where it's used on a duplicate of the Fire (type) article. If you approve, edit {{ElementalTypes}} (there are markers that indicate where the code begins and ends) and I'll update the type pages. :) Though you'll have to remove the colon from the category at the bottom (I didn't include the category for the template itself). - esp eonA 02:04, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

I like it. I very much like it. Could you copypaste the code over to here with pre tags around it? TTEchidna 02:07, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Code - esp eonA 02:11, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Transferred to `{{ElementalTypes}}`

Wait, oops, must've forgot to put Category:Navigation templates on there too. Could you add that in too? =/ I'll go and update the articles and then I'll get to work on the template for egg groups. - esp eonA 02:26, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Good good. TTEchidna 02:27, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Bothering you again, but: User:EspeonA/Sandbox (link to code there) - esp eonA 03:13, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Done and done. TTEchidna 23:22, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I've redone {{PokémonInfobox}} with help of Force Fire's coding. Click here and see if there's anything else to add... I wasn't sure if GenII/III and IV had different amount of egg steps so I made the variable the same... But then that'll be weird for GenIV-only Pokémon. And the {{{nextevo}}} and {{{nextevop}}} variables will have to be manually added for each evolving Pokémon (the first establishes whether the Pokémon has an evolution or not while the second puts down what the Pokémon evolves into). — eA 04:24, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Seen mine yet? I think it's slightly better, though I do like your titlebar idea. Either way, the PokémonInfobox is gonna be one of the last things upgraded... Part of the switchover you see... plus we gotta get those cries. TTEchidna 04:29, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Maybe one could add the background colours behind the egg group names as seen here:Template:EggGroups. Like it has for the types.--Mister E 13 04:35, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

The only thing about that is that types have their own specified color and lightened color, while the egg group colors have to use hexadecimal color codes, and I don't want to go into Photoshop to layer a color with white @ such-and-such opacity and then get the hexadecimal color code and manually input it onto the page and do that for every egg group. — eA 04:43, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

We can easily make a color template though, using the hex codes in Template:EggGroups. That's how we got firecolorlight etc. — THE TROM — 04:47, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

But that'll mean I'll have to do the process above to find the hexadecimal color code for each lightened color to make the template, unless someone has an easier process.

Anyway, I've fixed it up a little to include the cry mp3 file thing. Just curious, how will it show up if the file is actually there? Will there be a button to press to hear the sound, or something? — eA 04:59, 24 January 2009 (UTC) Oh yeah, and I copied some coding off of yours. Dx ~ EspeonA

Thing is, the egg cycles thing... that's needed. The steps aren't accurate at all, really. It depends on what you've done...

Anyway, yes, the cries will be in a playbox, ideally. I've emailed Filb to ask if we can borrow PokéWiki's, and I'm gonna talk to Archaic to see if we can get some Bulba-hosted soundfiles. TTEchidna 07:51, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Look at these!

Check these out:

User:MisterE13/Sandbox

We'd have to fix the following things though,

Insert the power level of the assists in Ranger 1 (between the assist type and the actual name of the assist).
Remove the x (meaning multiplication) on all the Ranger2 assist names (or just add them on the images.)

Just tell me which number to start at and I'll get on it.--Mister E 13 02:59, 22 January 2009 (UTC) I, for one think it would be good to have the images like we do in Template:Almiapkmn.--Mister E 13 03:22, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Uhm... *blink* Can you code that as, like, a subpage of your userspace, and show off an example of what the hell you're talking about? TTEchidna 03:29, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Basically, an admin would just have to copy the entire sections into their respective titles

What they do is:

Inserts the image for the assist types in front of the text on those pages. As seen here: Template:Side game/Assist2no (I also took the liberty of doing it for Discharge)
Once the "x" is removed from every page with the "Assist2" template in them, it will show the images before the name.
Once the power level for the Ranger1 assists is inserted (between their type and name), it will show the correct number of those images (1-3)--Mister E 13 03:44, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

I still... am not following. Do like I do and make the templates sub-User pages. Test them out. Then tell us when they're good to go or just move them to the mainspace or something... eck, I dunno. SOMEONE WITH RANGER SKILLS HALP PLZ? TTEchidna 03:51, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about last night, I was tired and thought that you did have "RANGER SKILLS" I finally figured out how to call a user template and got it all to work. Just check the ol' sandbox feel free to play around with some of the variables to see if it all works. I think it will break the tables though.

Just copy the codes from my sandbox to the pages as seen in their titles there. Basically, it just shows the sprites beside "Poké assist" and "Field move". I don't know if you think that the names should still be put there. Feel free to take them out or put parentheses in there. If you have any more questions about how it works (since I guess you don't know much about the Rangers) feel free to ask.

Here's what we have to do for all of the pages that use them to fix the existing tables though:

Remove the power of both the Ranger games' assists.
Reinsert the power of both the Ranger games' assists as their own variables.
- It gets tricky here though, Ranger 1 assist powers go between the assist types and the names of the assits themselves. Ranger 2 assist powers go between the field move name and the browser entry. If this seems to complicated for the pages though, it can be changed as well.
Put a hyphen or some other "power level" for the Ranger 2 assists without power levels. (The one with hyphens as seen here: Field moves).

Go ahead and tell me what national dex number to start with and I can get going fixing them.--Mister E 13 23:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Uhm uhm uhm... I still dunno what you really want done... but someone else who has played Ranger might help. TTEchidna 00:14, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, you see the little squareish images next to the words "Field move" and "Poké assist", I basically just added in codes for those. (You can click those links to see some of the sprites that would be used). With that understanding, read my last post. (Or maybe find another admin who knows about the Rangers.)--Mister E 13 00:18, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

How did your little AIM chat about this with Kogoro go last night? If either of you needs me to explain some of the changes, just ask. Also, feel free to change the templates to make them look better if you think it's needed.--Mister E 13 16:54, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't know if you noticed, but I coded Kingdra in sa an example. Feel free to compare with the one in Kingdra. Also, you can modify things like the spaces between the sprites of the Ranger 1 assists or just adding parenthses around the names of the moves (after the images). Once again, feel free to ask if you have any questions.--Mister E 13 04:25, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Look, I don't know if I made this clear enough earlier but I'm sure the template will work perfectly, I just need an admin to go here: User:MisterE13/Sandbox and copy/paste the codes from the different sections into the already existant pages bearing the same name. I myself could then even change most of the pages to fix them to how they should be (maybe with a little help :) ).--Mister E 13 17:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Ahhh. Okay there it is. Which code directly? (do it like EspeonA did) Then I can do it easy. TTEchidna 22:03, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I guess I really need to express myself better. But as for what you just said, that's the beauty of what I did, all the codes are in my sandbox and the titles of the sections they're in are the pages they should go to. For example, the code under the "Template:Side game/Rangeryes" title goes here, Template:Side game/Rangeryes etc.--Mister E 13 00:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Thaaaat's all I needed. Though it seems somewhat messed up. You sure it's right? TTEchidna 01:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

The example doesn't have the parentheses in it. Also, some images will have to be slightly renamed but I've alredy put out a request to Kenji-girl. (Actually, this would have been a great time to use that "Wanted images" thing I wanted. Did anything else look wrong in the coding? (It was my first time using parser hooks).--Mister E 13 02:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I figured it out, the "side game" template still called for my user templates instead of the real thing. It's been changed in the Sandbox.--Mister E 13 02:28, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Oy. *facepalm*

K, I've put them on the first 4 Pokémon, what doyou think. I'll slowly be getting the rest done.--Mister E 13 02:42, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I've found one more little thing, in "Ranger2", there's an "x". It should be "×".--Mister E 13 02:48, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Just finished the first 57 (I stopped after Primeape) I'm gonna' turn in now but I'll get back on it tomorrow.--Mister E 13 04:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

With some help from Chungkingpun, all the Pokémon have been done. Now if only Kenji would rename the sprites.--Mister E 13 18:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

? What sprites? TTEchidna 05:56, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Colors

Hey man, do you know the color IDs for the "User Blastoff" template? I want to use the colors, but don't know IDs well enough. Thanks, even if you can't help! R.A. Hunter B. 03:00, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Uhm, check the template yourself? It's pretty intuitive... TTEchidna 03:09, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

See? I didn't even know that. And that helped. Thanks! R.A. Hunter B. 21:45, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Random question

Is it possible to <noinclude> an unclosed <nowiki> tag?--freezingCOLD _{(page, talk)} 21:13, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

No, I've tried. The closing noinclude gets swallowed by the nowiki. Θρtιmαtum_Talk 21:45, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, sadly. TTEchidna 23:17, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Template changes

Could you put vertical two-sided arrows between the Burmys here: Template:Evobox/1formes3

And link the "no" options (like in the version exclusives) here: Template:Tutor Thanks.--Mister E 13 03:08, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

First one, I would, but it'd mess up the template. People can check out Burmy's page, they aren't stupid. Second... um. What? TTEchidna 03:25, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Really, you couldn't just put them between the boxes?... oh well. For #2, I guess I reall should start explaining myself better (see above). Go to version exclusive even if they're not catchable, the game names still link, to keep up with consistancy, shouldn't we also have all the tutors link even if they aren't teachable.--Mister E 13 03:41, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

If you mean in the mtentry series of subtemplates, then I think I could link them, but it would be a pain in the ass... Plus, what's it hurt if the game's not linked? If the move's not available there, why link it? TTEchidna 04:17, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Name Change

Can I change my Name to LucarioWolf.I`m that on the forms.The Aura Wolf !!!! 01:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Name changes are final, remember. Once I get your confirmation that you want it finalized, then I shall do it. TTEchidna 04:17, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I DAWN FAN wanmy name change.I really want it change.I`m gonna finilized it Today.The Aura Wolf !!!! 17:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Phases IV and V

Will either of these phases in Project Overgrow have to do with the release of Platinum, seeing as it is two days following? If that is the case, then Platinum updates would begin earliest right on the 22nd, after the project is complete. --Bulbapedian - Talk 02:28, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Not directly, but I think some integration there would be okay. TTEchidna 04:16, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

You may have noticed...

That I've developed a suitable redesign for a couple of nav templates (ie. {{Pokelist}}, {{Fiore}}, {{Orange Archipelago}}) which I reckon would be a fine standard to be applied to the rest of them. However, should I be waiting for the next stage to take place first before going ahead with the rest of the templates? -–<×vVvv_v τ^λικ _to ς1^tHςι_4γ3r ^^vVv×>–- 04:48, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

If you can get some Phase III stuff done early, do it. I like it though. TTEchidna 22:04, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Cool. Hate to seem ignorant though, but I don't actually know exactly what Phase III consists of exactly, only the general gist of it xP -–<×vVvv_v τ^λικ _to ς1^tHςι_4γ3r ^^vVv×>–- 23:09, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

That's aaaall you need to know. TTEchidna 01:44, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Pshh, don't you worry... I have my sources... *chuckles sinisterly* -–<×vVvv_v τ^λικ _to ς1^tHςι_4γ3r ^^vVv×>–- 02:25, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Tell me all your secrets.--Clarky13 02:34, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

NEVER!! Mine, all mine... -–<×vVvv_v τ^λικ _to ς1^tHςι_4γ3r ^^vVv×>–- 09:40, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I will get them. Somehow, when you least suspect it. Mhahahaha--Clarky13 09:45, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

<_<... >_>... *bails* -–<×vVvv_v τ^λικ _to ς1^tHςι_4γ3r ^^vVv×>–- 10:20, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

You can't run from me. No one can. --Clarky13 10:31, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

What was wrogn with that trivia?

What was wrong with that trivia?

Up Close and Personable and Ghoul Daze are back to back and both have hypnotic trances placed on people and/or Pokémon.

Why in the world is everyone just nitpicking at the trivia i added? Yami 05:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Honestly, who cares about it being back to back hypnosis. Whoo. Hoo. Shall we have episodes saying that it's the second episode in a row that Ash's Pikachu has used Thunderbolt. TTEchidna 05:34, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Its the second time in the same story arc. Also what is wrong with the mew smirk one?

After Dusknoir is knocked out, The ghostly girl smirks before opening a vortex. During the smirk stock audio of a Mew cry can be heard. This stock audio was used for when Mewtwo was hearing Mew before he brakes from his incubation chamber.

that's perfect trivia material. They call it trivial for a reason. Yami 05:40, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

It's the 549th time Pikachu's used Thunderbolt in the same story arc to beat Team Rocket, too. Also, Mewtwo doesn't brake from his stasis tube. He breaks out. TTEchidna 05:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Sketch

Can you please tell him to lay off the image hunt. Now he's just targeting pictures he simply doesn't like. --ケンジの ガール 06:02, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll have a talk. You should get AIM so that we all can have a talk. SO GET AIM *shakes fist* TTEchidna 06:12, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm so glad you know what I'm doing. -Sketch 12:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Again. AIM. All of us. TTEchidna 21:23, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

*biased*DCM_{((Mock Me}_Edits)) 22:03, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Question

From [1], what is Pokemon Sky Tower? ^ht 14 16:37, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

No clue. TTEchidna 18:55, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me, sir

I was wondering if you would agree with me that {{ci}} is a "laziness template". How difficult is it to type [[Lilycove City|Lilycove]]? I also believe there should be a purge of templates that don't appear to serve any purpose other than slightly less typing for the user. Awaiting your opinion, most humble echidna.—Blazevoir_{Talk/Contribs} 22:35, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I do agree that {{ci}} and {{to}} are pretty lazy templates. Unlike for stuff like Pokémon, there's TWO OF THEM. List me off some that you see as lazy. TTEchidna 23:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I'd say a lot of link templates are lazy if you classify {{fi}} and {{la}} lazy, since many of them are similar to those templates except for a lesser range of links. For example, {{Noland}} and others, {{gen}}, {{series2}}, {{prof}}... — eA 23:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

{{4Kids}}, {{Card GB}}, and {{Card GB 2}} to name a few.—Blazevoir_{Talk/Contribs} 23:42, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, those last two are pretty useful for the early TCG card articles, though they can be substituted if they're considered to be lazy. Cipher (Talk) 23:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)