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Don't question my existence. Anyway, forum the debate. I was just happy that Obama won. I'm proud that America was able to move beyond the hatred of the past to do so, and for such an awesome guy too.

Plus I get to brag now because BULBAPEDIA RUNS THE WORLD NOW.

Users from <Insert random place>

There's a few users using {{User Country}} for places that are rather... Random. Examples include, "the depths of", "Outer Space", as well as a few towns/cities (Including some plainly using the template without a location). Would you like me to edit the userpages with these... Oddities by substing the templates, then removing the categories? Or should we just leave them to appear in the Wanted Categories? - Kogoro | Talk to me | 06:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm... well, yeah, I guess it'd be a good idea. As for those who aren't from anywhere... I dunno. TTEchidna 06:47, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Well, could the template get an edit so that if nothing is placed in the {{{2}}} variable, the category portion of the template won't activate? - Kogoro | Talk to me | 06:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
You mean that's not already in place? TTEchidna 20:56, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Surprisingly enough, it wasn't. I think I was able to get one to work, but I'm not 100% sure. I really began to hate parser functions while trying to add it. - Kogoro | Talk to me | 21:39, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
They're easy. It's time you gotta watch for. TTEchidna 22:24, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


Can you get a warning for doing nothing wrong?

On the 28th July DCM gave me a warning for editing the userspace too much, even though I had only made 3 edits. Today I made my first error on the Userspace Policy as in my timezone I was editing in 2 different days, but according to the BP clock it was the same day. I immediately reported this to an Admin, as it was an accident, then Maverick Nate decided to give me a warning citing it as my 2nd. While I find this harsh, technically he is right, as I did break the rule but only by accident, so I shall have to accept that warning, but as my first warning. He insists it should remain my 2nd warning, even though I have clearly highlighted to him that today is the first time I have broken the policy. DCM made a mistake when he gave me that warning, it was by accident, and he meant no harm, he thought it was 4, but when recounting it was only 3, therefore surely the warning he gave me shouldnt count as it was given out of error. --Guardian of Earth |SGMS 2010

Eh, the fact that it'd been almost half a year since your last warning... I'd say you're fine. Really, the warning elevation is for users who do it frequently, while you seem to get that there's a limit. TTEchidna 20:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
This looks a lot like wikipedia:forumshopping. You should at least say that you've previously appealed at User talk:Maverick Nate#The Warning, rather than hoping that he wouldn't look at it.
Anyway, you've made no mainspace edits this month, and only four mainspace talk edits, three of them on a fan article (GS remakes). The purpose of the rule was to encourage people to improve Bulbapedia and not use this site as a social networking site. This isn't a legal court system, and the admins can use discretion when enforcing the spirit of the law as opposed to the word of the law. --Raijinili 21:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Basic energy

Basic energies have undergone quite a few art changes over the years, I think I have a good majority of energy cards in each artistic change. The articles for basic energies are very tiny stubs, but should I scan & add galleries to them to display the art changes, despite the size of the articles? - Kogoro | Talk to me | 08:06, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Go for it. TTEchidna 08:07, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Aim Buddies

I added ttfutureechidna to my buddy list, I was wondering if you'd add maxieguardian to yours, so we can be friends and just chat about stuff, I think the political argument got us on a bad start, im hoping we can be friends? --Guardian of Earth |SGMS 2010

Just IMing me gets you on the list. TTEchidna 03:18, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I have won.

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So BulbaBot still remains an administrator and Kuki still a "good" user?--Diby 07:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
We don't know...I've been talking to TTE for the last few hours and we got clues that Kuki should not be fully trusted yet, either should Nate.--Tavisource 07:37, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Erm, wouldn't it be best to make BulbaBot not an admin?
Prevention is better than a cure... Glinn Mgraw 07:41, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
TTE says that BulbaBot HAS to be an admin.--Tavisource 07:43, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh thank goodness.
Anyway, look, we'll look into things, okay? TTEchidna 07:44, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
What did I miss out on? The block log has gone straight to hell, it seems. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 08:16, 13 November 2008 (UTC), mostly. So pathetic it's funny. Glinn Mgraw 09:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Um... can someone fill me in on what's going on here?--Manga-in-a-bottle 09:06, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

BulbaBot went nuts. TTEchidna 09:19, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
You mean a glitch, right? Coz it's only an automatic program or something? But from the looks of things, it would seem it was behaving as a person...--Manga-in-a-bottle 09:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Its aura shows that of a human. I really think Zhen should renew the password every few months. As the wiki's most powerful bot, it's the target of many vandal/cookie attacks. Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links 10:19, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
All I got was "YOU NO LONGER HA" and that's where I stopped. Can someone translate the rest for me, please? Here.--Blazevoir!! 11:18, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
"You no longer have any authority on Bulbapedia, TTEchidna. I hope you enjoy your block and do not return when it expires.And now I, Scott Sandler, am in charge of Bulbapedia, and will make sure that everyone respects me and the pictures I put up, instead of Jmath's stupid ones.My mother's emails? They were only a trick. The email from Maverick Nate? I faked it. No one can stop me and now I have ultimate authority.You brought this on yourself TTE. YOU SHOULD HAVE GIVEN ME ADMIN POWERS WHEN YOU HAD THE CHANCE! I WANTED THEM AND YOU JUST KEPT HOLDING THEM IN FRONT OF ME.Now, you will never come back... If you do, I will block you forever, like you wanted to do to me.Too bad you never had the chance.Love always, Scott Sandler, AKA Kuki.�" Cipher (Talk) 11:32, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh.. so there are online converters.. I just made my own. But this made me wake up and instantly go WTF?! Gywall(Talk) 11:58, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
...Guh...So now we're being run by an asshole madman? Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links 13:33, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh everyone knows that's been the case since I was asked to be in charge... Anonymous doesn't forgive nor forget, remember?
No, really. Kuki's nuts, but I doubt he did it. Though after pretty much begging everyone and their mother to be let back on Bulbapedia after a lengthened block due to sockpuppeting, attempting to pose as another user in order to get them banned for longer, and then now once more doing so... poorly... off of Bulbapedia, while his mother's screaming about Asperger's and how she can't control him due to it, I and the rest of the admins have pretty much had it with him. BulbaBot's "malfunction" seems like more of a way to just screw with us... nothing more. Especially since we discovered that we, being admins, can unblock ourselves if we're somehow blocked.
Anyway, we'll deal with everything. Don't worry at all. We're handling it with our buraucratic... bureaucracy. I dunno. We're dealing. TTEchidna 13:51, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
This is kind of getting out of haand, why is BulbaBot screwing with people, I mean, it's a 'robot', isn't it? Or does someone control it? :\ Also I think Kuki is going a little...errr... insane, from what i've heard from certain people. It's not my place to say, but maybe being on Bulbapedia isn't good for him... Sorry for my un-wanted input there. ~~Takoto - サソデイ 14:43, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
And to think I dropped an eight-hour block bomb on myself as an attempt to shield just in case the rogue bot did go after me...--Shiningpikablu252 16:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
you said up there Anonymous doesn't forgive nor forget, remember?
well I do remember he's the bastard that screwed up my youtube channel----Ultamatecharizard 20:59, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Welcome to the Internet. Either you likely decided to say something incredibly lulzy, thus setting you up, or you were some random lolcow. TTEchidna 22:01, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
hah? all I'm sayin' is that a guy called anonymous took controll of my channel and wrote we do not forgive, we do not forget, so do a lot of people know him?Ultamatecharizard 22:12, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Eh's a pretty cool guy. Hacks Youtube and doesn't afraid of anything. TTEchidna 22:26, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


What the fuck is going on? --ニョロトノ666 17:00, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

BulbaBot went haywire last night. Dropping block bombs left and right on various users, be it someone like Darkrai breeder or someone like TTEchidna. Thankfully, you weren't hit; neither was I, but I actually blocked myself for eight hours just in case BulbaBot did go after me. --Shiningpikablu252 17:06, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Hm. Is Maverick Nate blocked? If so, why? --ニョロトノ666 17:07, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Not right now, no. BulbaBot messed with TTEchidna's schedule, which called for the initial probation block to expire early morning of the 16th, to expire at noon UTC today. In fact, BulbaBot started its rampage six minutes after the action that got Maverick Nate put on probation to begin with.
What I'd really like to know, however, is how BulbaBot managed to block Tavisource for 400 years the third time BulbaBot blocked that user. I had to block Sneedly94 for 25 years mainly because 30 years was considered invalid...--Shiningpikablu252 17:14, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Additionally, it's not supposed to be possible to block a sysop, much less a bureaucrat. And BulbaBot doesn't have the power to revoke and issue administrative powers... This is too odd. And how did TTE unblock himself? I'm leaning towards revoking the bot's administrative powers until we can decide what to do about this... --ニョロトノ666 17:17, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and if Mav Nate's not blocked, what's this? --ニョロトノ666 17:21, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
BulbaBot doesn't have the powers necessary to mess with user rights. The last time user rights were tweaked was when TTEchidna put Maverick Nate on probation for an unfair block on Kuki. BulbaBot didn't tweak anyone's user rights.
Anyway, it appears that ultra-long expiry times really are valid now, and BulbaBot took advantage of that with Tavisource. I tested it with my user page, setting a protection timer for one minute short of UTC New Year in 10000, and the time was seen as valid.
As for Maverick Nate's block log, compare BulbaBot's expiry time to the timestamps under this heading. --Shiningpikablu252 17:22, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Pfft. Silly me. In any case, I've revoked BulbaBot's administrative powers for the time being, as it needs a little programming change. --ニョロトノ666 17:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
I think someone logged in as bulbabot.--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))
By the name Echidna--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))

(resetting indent) One thing I'd like to note, for the benefit of anyone who didn't know, is that blocked users can't edit pages, but they can still log in, view pages, and if they have special rights, then they can use those abilities freely as well. So yes, while you can block a sysop, they can just unblock themselves as long as they still have sysop rights. Blocking a sysop is nothing more then a nuisance, since they have to unblock themselves before they can edit. (it is pretty annoying though, I'll say that from previous experience.) -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 20:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

And this was a lesson to all about it. Anyway, here's the truth: I am BulbaBot. Zhen let me take control of it to mess with you guys and freak you out, and this time I was attempting to out Kuki as being the one who made the email from Nate saying "I hate you so very much, I will block u for until January 30, 2023".
Why did I do it? A test, perhaps. Response time was quite efficient, proving we don't need to continue the nominations for administratorship for the time being. Maybe next April around the time Platinum comes out here, since we get a huge influx of new users around then.
Whatever the case, though, it backfired. And now Kuki's whining about his assburgers again, like DaxFlame, while his mom's setting up new anti-Bulbapedia facebook groups because he won't GET OFF THE COMPUTER. And I'm not afraid to show my bias against nooby users here. Stop thinking that Bulbapedia's some big friend group. That's the forums. Go there. Don't IM me about random crap. I have 100+ people on my list, I don't need anymore. Don't talk page vandalism, for the last time, CONTACT VIA AIM, MSN, OR WHATEVER.
Anyway. Things will go back to the way they were beforehand. Nate didn't do anything wrong because we all pretty much agreed that blocking Kuki until that date would be hilarious, and then I'd "reprimand" him just to see what Kuki's reaction would be.
Optimatum had it right when he said Bulbapedia's run by an asshole madman. That's me! But only when I need to be. So to everyone, sorry for the lose, but guess whaaaaaat.
Love always, TTEchidna 21:39, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
*suddenly doubting your existence* EVIL BASTARD!--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))
*gasp* TTE is BulbaBot?! I would have never guessed! </sarcasm>
But TTE, don't you think this was all about, say, 138 days early?
...ohshit, I just got an idea. You guys are all in big trouble come next April. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 23:57, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure what you're talking about, but I bet that it has something to do with MewBot.--Pokencyclopedia 02:32, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
True, this might've been better in April, or on Halloween, but hey, lightning day screwed up the clock tower... TTEchidna 02:56, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
So if you are on hiatus then you aren't a part of it... electAbuzz and I were lucky. P.S., WHAT YOU DID WAS SO FUNNY. Blaming Kuki through the binary... GENIUS! That Aspergers thing was pretty mean though. Anyway...--RexRacer -talk 03:06, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
It's the Internet. It's mean. TTEchidna 03:09, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Public disclaimer's on my page. I'm Anonymous. I do things for the lulz. TTEchidna 03:26, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
There we go:D--RexRacer -talk 03:31, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

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I just have to ask this now: how many people actually thought BulbaBot was acting autonomously while simultaneously showing personality and leaving scathing edit summaries?--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 04:34, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
People that think that wiki robots will control the world LOL hfc2X 04:44, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
April fools has been moved back 5 months? :S Glinn Mgraw 07:03, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

TTE. You're a god c: I knew it was you... Or one of the admins. (is a little late on the uptake) ~~Takoto - サソデイ 07:47, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Hes a scientontologist. There for a nonexistast god--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))
Actually, the scilons believe in the essential divinity of L. Ron Hubbard and run screaming in fear not from Satan, but from the Galactic Overlord Xenu, who was an income tax inspector. And the Marcabian Federation, a 1950's-like bunch of aliens who dress up like the Blues Brothers.
Now if only they would be as truthful about it. TTEchidna 22:00, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
*incite on how DCM's mind works * Lets read that again....Hubbard=Missle; Galactic overlord=already working for them ; Taxes=BAD; Alien Blues Brothers!=GENIUS! LETS GET WORKING ON IT!
{{tt|OHEMGEE! SCIENTOLOGISTS ARE SHOOTING DOWN TEH GALACTIC OVERLORDS TO EVADE GALACTIV OVERLORDS AND waTCH TEH BLUES BROTHERS~|In reality, i just didnt feel like reading all of that--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))
The sad thing is I'm totally serious. TTEchidna 22:25, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
TTE = A scientontologist? .......All my respect just died. I'm not racist, but really... scientontology is... err... whats the work? ~~Takoto - サソデイ 22:38, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh yes, TTE is most definitely a Scientologist, no matter what he's about to say in his next comment that implies otherwise. I've got pictures to prove it and everything, as far as you know. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 22:41, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
He's a scientologist.....and a Nazi. Bastard.--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))
I'm pretty sure those two conflict in one way or another, but sure. And he's a terrorist. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 03:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
You just had to make BulbaBot soooo annoying. I thought I trusted you, TTE. I want Zhen back in control of it. But no, Zhen is "on hiatus." I thought you were good person. --DialgaRULES 03:26, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
He is, He just likes to mess with our minds. --Force Fire 03:28, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Nonexistant Nazi Scientologist Terrorist. Hmmm. seems fitting for him--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))
There's no real difference between Nazis and scilons except who they persecute. Scilons chose psychologists. TTEchidna 05:35, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
The comment about Scientologist was actually my brother. Goddamn it Robbie xD But yeah, I didn't know he was a Scientologist... Let alone a Nazi Scientologist Terrorist. Anyone want to add anything else to that mix of what TTE is? *laughs* ~~Takoto - サソデイ 09:55, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Pardon my ignorance, but did you guys remember to unblock Tina? I'm aware that she doesn't plan on coming back to Bulbapedia anytime soon, but I still think it's unfair to keep her blocked.--Pokencyclopedia 22:45, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for what I have done just now... But now, I'm having troubles for editing Mew Glitch page...(I'm currently writing up the Overview for Glitch Pokémon on Route 24) Each time, when I pressed the ' Enter button ' to leave 1 space, it save the page...Do you have any other method that you can teach,to leave 1 space without pressing the ' Enter ' button ? Thanks =) Bowboyxxx 07:12, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Wait wha? Enter shouldn't save the page... It doesn't make any sense for it to. Try messing around in the sandbox... TTEchidna 07:17, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Template:TCG Expansions

Hiya, I've drafted a new version of this template which can be found in my sandbox. I don't want to implement it before I've gotten any opinions on it, so any thoughts you have on this would be much appreciated. Cheers, Cipher (Talk) 21:21, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Clear it with some others... It's a good idea, dunno if everyone wants the show/hide though. TTEchidna 21:51, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Well, checked with Nate who likes it except for the show/hide which he's not keen on, SP252 who told me it could work but to get a second opinion, Politoed666 who loves it and says to implement it now (though I'm still unsure because I don't know how many people dislike show/hide), and you. So it's still about 50/50. Should I ask anyone else, or is that enough to decide whether or not to implement it? Cipher (Talk) 21:58, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
It can always be undone so I say go for it. TTEchidna 22:00, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


You may wanna update Bulbapedia:Administrators since BulbaBot and Maverick Nate are no longer admins. Chocolate 21:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

They're not? What happened?--The Kkllnnator blastoise 21:29, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Late last night, BulbaBot went very damn crazy and blocked dozens of innocent users (including myself), so Politoed666 changed BulbaBot's rights from bots and admins to just bots. Maverick Nate blocked Kuki for 15 years with a horrible reason, so TTE changed Maverick Nate's rights from checkusers and admins to abuse. Chocolate 21:32, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
So Nate really meant it... But his page still calls him an admin, shouldn't someone fix that?--The Kkllnnator blastoise 21:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
No Nate didn't mean it. If he did he would have done so a long time ago. TTEchidna 21:41, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Pokémon Disambiguation

How do you create these for a pokémon? I found the Template:DisambigPokémon page, but I still don't know how to make one. --HoennMaster 05:41, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

You basically type in the Pokémon name in the search box. After you click "Go" it will redirect you to the Pokémon that you typed in if a disambiguation page wasn't created yet. Near the top of the page you'll see Redirected from <Pokémon name>. Click on that and it will take you to the page with an arrow pointing to the Pokémon's name. You click edit this page and you put the disambig information there instead of the redirect. Use this for a reference. --ケンジガール 05:45, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
But why must you make a page for a disambiguation? TTEchidna 06:29, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Captain Skank?

Is that appropriate?--RexRacer -talk 22:09, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I... dunno. I don't have a real problem with it. TTEchidna 22:11, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't see anything wrong with it, either. --Shiningpikablu252 23:22, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


This Idiot is Vandalizing Me and Takoto's Pages and other pages. Please BLOCK HIM! --Force Fire 10:06, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Meh NVM. --Force Fire 00:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
I doubt that this will be the last time we'll be seeing him anyway.--Pokencyclopedia 04:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Eh, depends on the person. Last time I dealt with a vandal like this, he didn't come back for a month or so. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 05:55, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
This are my roflcopter. soisoisoisoisoisoisoisoisoisoi. I doubt the vandal will come back. With such a unoriginal username he'll quickly get bored of vandalizing us.--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))
There aren't even any records left of his vandalism spree (aside from people mentioning it), so I don't think he'll want to do all that work again for such a small "reward". -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 18:10, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Additionally, this whole spree wouldn't have even happened if Pie had set the timer for infinite, as opposed to the one year she actually set it for, the first time this vandal appeared. --Shiningpikablu252 18:13, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm personally quite shocked the vandal actually remembered about Bulbapedia at all, a whole year later. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 20:06, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Well, he remembered even after that, he just vandalized again about half an hour ago, but we caught him before he made an imprint. He only vandalized 5 pages. MaverickNate 20:10, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I actually know this Rolfcopter guy because I used to be on YouTube. He's one of the worst trolls over there, and he's a pain in the ass to deal with. In fact, that account that he made here called "Theamack1992" is the same name as one of my friend's YouTube accounts. Chocolate 20:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Template Suggestion

I dunno how you'd like the Trainer's Eye/Call suggestion, so I'm showing it to you now. This is using Tate and Liza (obviously):

Tate and Liza   Mossdeep City  
Strategy: We battle in cooperation
Trainer's Pokémon: Always friendly Pokémon
Self-Introduction: We understand each other, and we understand others.

I know this needs work, and I need help on the borders and all, but this is just an idea... ht14 04:10, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... well, the moving Poké Ball... dunno why it's there. It's nice, I just don't get why it's there. I would shrink the thing's width and put it left-justified... TTEchidna 04:11, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok....well....the Poké Ball's there to show there's the need to battle....not the best, but hey! Not bad eh? ht14 04:13, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
The only problem is in fixing the width...not sure how that works.... ht14 04:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Likely due to the fact that it's a div-based table and not just a plain table... TTEchidna 04:20, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Do you think you can fix it up then? ht14 04:21, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Ehh... not right now... Perhaps later on. TTEchidna 04:23, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, cool. Do you like the idea though? ht14 04:24, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
It's a good idea I suppose. TTEchidna 04:28, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

(resetting indent) If we can get it to be less wide, I think it'd be a great idea. Chocolate 22:28, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

What about this then?

Tate and Liza    
Strategy: We battle in cooperation
Trainer's Pokémon: Always friendly Pokémon
Self-Introduction: We understand each other, and we understand others.

ht14 04:35, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

You know what? I give up... ht14 04:40, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Gywall suggested this:
  Tate and Liza Mossdeep City  
Strategy We battle in cooperation
Trainer's Pokémon Always friendly Pokémon
Self-Introduction We understand each other, and we understand others.

Is it ok? ht14 19:29, 23 November 2008 (UTC)


I can't see the Grass box. It's blending in. Glinn Mgraw 07:00, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Exactly why this would be a preliminary study. TTEchidna 07:02, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
By the way, anyone who wants to tinker with this thing right there can if they so wish. TTEchidna 07:05, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
And the Smart box...other than that though, it's good. Colour is good. Glinn Mgraw 07:06, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Hmm...light colour for most of the background looks nice...Glinn Mgraw 07:09, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Futuristic looks are good too. We'll deal... TTEchidna 07:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Ah well. It was just a quick test to see. We'll deal with it later. TTEchidna 07:21, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Party tables

I've noticed a few pages using the wrong generation body template now.. Notably the frontier brains with set Pokémon: Roulette Goddess Dahlia, Tower Tycoon Palmer and Castle Butler Kokuran and Cattleya. So I'm thinking, maybe the templates are a little tricky to understand without a guide of some sort?

Actually.. while writing this. I found a few more. Cynthia is using the Generation II template. Roxanne has two generations. Maybe there should be a notice, or links to a guide on the templates? Gywall(Talk) 11:25, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Name Change?

Can you please change my Name To MatoroIgnika?Thank You if you can.LD400

Reason? TTEchidna 03:29, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm not getting involved.--RexRacer -talk 03:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
My reason is I use this name more often now than when I started here.LD400
Make a few good edits first. TTEchidna 21:44, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
But everything I know of Pokemon is already on here.Maybe I am better off at BS01.LD400
I have too?LD400
Everything you know can't already be here. Bulbapedia's far from complete. What, was the last game you played Yellow? TTEchidna 19:55, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Template fix


read there, cause the Gen III hoenn sprites for kanto and hoenn are te same. hfc2X 17:00, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Um, what about Charizard? It has a slightly different sprite in FireRed & LeafGreen than the one in Ruby & Sapphire. - Kogoro | Talk to me - 17:11, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
A better example is Zubat who has a significant difference in sprite. Gywall(Talk) 17:14, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
But those are Kanto Pokémon... I mean because 252 and higher all have the same set of sprites (excepting for Deoxys, which has a different set). hfc2X 18:00, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Changing the template will affect all Pokémon. An if statement is broken due to Deoxys.. Gywall(Talk) 18:04, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Then add a value of switch for Pokémon over 252. Also Deoxys has its own template, so it has nothing to do with it. I would do it, but as I'm not an admin I can't edit protected pages. hfc2X 18:20, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
What should be done is redirecting of the FRLG sprites of Treecko and on to their RS sprite on the archives. TTEchidna 22:44, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Don't forget about Teddiursa... ht14 22:45, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, teddiursa is standing in FR and sitting in RS. I don't know what you think, but I'm not a noob, and the template is still not showing the sprites. Something must be done... I'm working on it. hfc2X 04:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

You're supposed to redirect stuff like   to   on the archives. It's more convenient than a template hack, especially since, regarding Gen IV, we'd have to make an absolutely ridiculous list of what does AND doesn't get a new sprite. TTEchidna 04:32, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
SSB3YXMgZXhwZWN0aW5nIGFuIGVhc2llciB3YXkgdG8gZG8gaXQsIGxpa2UgbWVzc2luZyBhcm91bmQgd2l0aCB0aGUgdGVtcGxhdGUncyBjb2RpbmcgdG8gc2F2ZSB0aW1lLiA=hfc2X 20:02, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Only saves time in the short run. In the long run template'd exceptions just end up being a pain. I'll see if I can get BulbaBot to do something about it, but since I both don't know how to program a wiki bot and some duplicate files have been uploaded... well, there's no easy way. TTEchidna 21:44, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Evo Boxes

Just dropping by to say that the new evolution boxes look awesome! I'd seen the templates popping up here and there, but had no idea what I was in store for the next time I scrolled past a Pokemon page's evo box. They really give the section some extra polish and finesse. Mad props to you and everyone else involved in the project, I'm sure you must have put lots of hard work into it and I just wanted to let you know that the end result was well worth it. Lucentas 06:17, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Just wanted to make it shiny and new. TTEchidna 06:26, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Is Eevee the only one who didn't get a colourful box? Gywall(Talk) 15:52, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
It will soon. TTEchidna 19:19, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I could use some info.

I need to figure out how to move my usertags to the left, and I figured "Perhaps Mr. Super In Charge Guy is the best one to ask for this matter." --SharKing ((Talk to the King!)) 14:12, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Add a "align=left" to the div box, methinks. Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links 14:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Pokemon World Article

The Pokemon World in Relation to the Real World article has been updated by me. I added Orre and Almia. While I know Almia to be correct, I'd like some help identifying which cities correspond to each other in pokeworld and the real world. Also, I'd like to know if my Orre theory is too much of a stretch. I don't think so, since Orre's capital and Maebashi match geographically and Agate Village matches Agatsuma, but I need help filling in the rest of the areas. ikipedia doesn't have enough information. Also, I'd like to figure out where Fiore fits into the Japanese archipelago. Here's the map I used of Orre to compare it with the Gunma Prefecture: --LynnCreed 17:33, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Isn't a:File:Orre.jpg a better map? I mean, Pokémon XD shows more of the shape than you see in Pokémon Colosseum. Gywall(Talk) 21:55, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
I dunno, it's kind of hard to see on my screen. *shrug* The XD map is still really similar to Gunma though, right?


Why did u have to pose as me?--KukiTalk 19:21, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Why didnt you pose as yourself?----DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits)) 21:40, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Who u talkin to?--KukiTalk 21:45, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

You are an easy target. Many, many users know of your situation, and someone that seems to be having trouble at home as well as your (mis)diagnosis theoretically makes one stressed user. And one stressed user is a user likely to go insane and destroy the 'pedia--RexRacer -talk 00:39, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Mostly it was so that you'd admit it. TTEchidna 02:56, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Was what you did really necessary? I mean if I were to do something like that, I'd be thrown out of Bulbapedia for good. Everyone seems okay and are humored by what you did, but I don't think it was right to do that. Especially when you frame another user. I don't agree with Kuki's methods sometimes, but that was just uncalled for.
I also find it unfair that when I protect a page, users get pissed at me and say I abused my powers. But you just started blocking people as a joke and no one gets angry... Probably because their afraid you won't like them anymore.
While I think you are a great person and I know it was you who made me an admin, but, what you did wasn't right. --ケンジガール 03:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
We were trying to get Kuki to confess for impersonating me through an e-mail. That is completely against the rules to begin with, and if he never did that to me, we wouldn't have done that to him. Also, Kuki is getting blocked anyway, it is just that if he confesses, he is punished considerably less than if he doesn't, so this was all for Kuki's benefit, but he wouldn't take it. MaverickNate 03:16, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
sounds like you have already thrown him to the dogs! I do have to agree with Kenji. Almost every user jumps down the throats of some of the lesser known admins, aka Kenji, Ketsuban, etc, but TTe gets away with this........BURN THE WITCH! --DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))
He is the all-powerful one around here. We must'nt anger the BulbaLord--RexRacer -talk 03:28, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Believe me, if anything, there needs to be more throat-jumping of the little kids who don't get that Bulbapedia is not their playground. Style changes, especially major ones, need be discussed. How long did I have every style change I made up on subpages? Forever. How many sockpuppets have I made to try to make another user look guilty because I had an edit war over a damned image? None. Find the cancer that's killing Bulbapedia, and eradicate it, that's my mantra. Now... let's get to that, shall we? TTEchidna 03:35, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Okay so you wanted to get Kuki to admit to impersonating Maverick. So why did you have to get Bulbapedia involved on what is essentially a private matter. You blocked innocent users for no reason. --ケンジガール 03:41, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Did you read what he said? This was a bulbapedic matter. MaverickNate 03:42, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Does it matter? I actually do NOT like what they did...TTE blocked me for 400 years...not nice...and I totally wasted my time on something fake. I agree with's not nice.--Tavisource 03:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
BulbaBot did that one. After everyone was done for the night, mostly. It was 11 here, 5 AM in the UK, and just about noon in Aussieland. Nooooobody was on and editing save for a few people. If it were around 3 PM it'd be more of an issue. Plus, blocks are EASY to undo. TTEchidna 03:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
No...Bulbabot blocked me for a week...YOU blocked me for 400 you not remember? It was around one over at Chicago.--Tavisource 04:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
I did not, did I? Either way, it was undone (and I didn't even know 400 years was a valid length!)... TTEchidna 06:05, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Neither did I, until I successfully put a protection timer on my userpage to expire one minute short of the year 10,000. Odds are a recent MediaWiki upgrade provided support for longer timer lengths, such as 4000 years or to 9999. --Shiningpikablu252 06:08, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Hmm.--Coolピカチュウ! 06:13, 21 November 2008 (UTC)


What do you think of my idea? It's basically saying that if the one month rule is to work then it needs to have voting/nominating criteria. --RexRacer -talk 21:47, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Also, can I use some of your time coding to make an archive thing for my talk page?--RexRacer -talk 23:48, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Go for it. TTEchidna 00:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
While I've got you- should we use the EpisodePrevNext template for moves? Its used for Pokémon, anime, and manga. Seems like we could use it on moves too, or abilities. Maybe just moves.--RexRacer -talk 00:30, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Hrmmm... I dunno. The moves are kind of index numbered... not much else. TTEchidna 00:33, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
(Intrusion) I think it would be good for the Ability pages, they're like the Berry pages to be honest. TESHIGIGAS 00:34, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
But neither abilities nor moves are numbered by anything but index number. TTEchidna 00:35, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
They just feel kind of isolated, you know? It seems like they should be part of a cycle of moves, not just one big dead end--RexRacer -talk 00:36, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
That's what the TM/HM things are for. I dunno, talk to the others, see what they think. TTEchidna 00:38, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Like, admins? EB? --RexRacer -talk 00:40, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Yeah. TTEchidna 02:21, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
PAK Man is for it. I think Mav is against it. I dunno about ShiningPikablu. DO you just wanna see if any are on AIM right now?--RexRacer -talk 02:25, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Well, personally, I still think it'd be a dumb idea... there's no real rhyme or reason to the index number orders of the moves... and the move pages are far from dead ends anyway... TTEchidna 05:11, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Signature help

I need help with my signature. This is what I want my signature to be:
Chocolate((Talk to MeLook at My Contributions))
But, when I try to apply it in my preferences, it says that the signature is invalid due to something with the HTML tags. Do you know what it might be? Chocolate 17:44, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

That looks like my old sig...... did you include the -- and check off the raw sig box?--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))
I don't like to use -- in my signature because if I use a template with auto-signing, my signature will have 4 dashes instead of 2. And yes, I checked the raw signature thing. Chocolate 18:01, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
I see the problem. Apparently <sub style=color:#6D351A> isn't recognized by wiki. You'll have to separate it into <sub><span style=color:#6D351A>, then add the appropriate end brackets. TTEchidna 22:54, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
I changed it to this:
Chocolate((Talk to Me|Look at My Contributions))
But it said that it was invalid again. Why is it saying that now? Chocolate 23:01, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Maybe because you don't have the quotes around the "color:#6D351A;" TTEchidna 23:03, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
'Kay, it worked now. Thanks for helping. Chocolate((Talk to Me|Look at My Contributions)) 23:18, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Name change request

For quite a while I've been wanting to have my username here changed from Woopert to Quagbert, mainly because I've found the former is too easily confused with the Pokémon's name. I'd really appreciate if you could, even more so if you could rename my Bulbanews and Archives accounts as well. Quagbert 04:09, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Hoo boy, this is gonna be complicated... I've heard from others that you've already been making pages under the name of Quagbert? We'll have to get those in line first, but afterward I'd be glad to. TTEchidna 04:40, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
That was back in February when I foolishly tried to change it myself, but I've since moved them all back under Woopert. Quagbert 05:02, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
All righty then... I'll tell you on your talk page to relink the three accounts on PAN as soon as I finish. SO. For now, PLZ to be not doing anything. TTEchidna 05:03, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Like Arceus...

Maybe we can do the same template as Arceus and Unown for Castform and Burmy/Wormadam....this also includes the typing and etc. (obviously doesn't include Unown for this). ht14 00:20, 25 November 2008 (UTC) Don't think it'd be the best idea. TTEchidna 00:21, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Why not? ht14 00:22, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Because unlike Arceus and Unown, there's a smaller amount that are there, Burmy's a pain in the ass no matter what, and I don't want people whining "WAH WORMADAMS GRASS NOT STEEL" and editing THOSE pages too. TTEchidna 00:24, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I see. You didn't mention Castform though... ht14 00:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Castform's weather-based, and with four forms, like Deoxys, it's fine to have as-is. TTEchidna 00:26, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


Hey there, TTE. Something's wrong with BulbaBot; he's left a mess on a user subpage of mine. And it's not even in binary! As Zhen Lin's gone, I've come to you (it says see ZL on his UP). I also don't like talking to bots, so please pass on my regards:

  • I have no problem with the disambiguation pages. They are necessary when dealing with quantities of information with the same name.
  • I like the link templates. I'm even learning how to use them.
  • Don't treat me like I'm an idiot because I'm not like you.
  • I have LURKED. I've LURKED here for a long time. And now I'm CONTRIBUTING. Well, trying to. I'm still learning, yes, so give me a break.
  • There are admins without userpages and you aren't complaining about their redlinks.
  • The biggest problem I've had with this site is the attitudes. Talk pages are for talking, not yelling and scaring people away. I'm not the only person who thinks this, as the discussion here suggests.
  • I'm also not the only person who thinks the admin system needs a rehaul. There are far too many people that vote "oh, he writes stuff, so he should be admin". That should never be a reason, these privileges need to be handed out to people who will use them wisely. Blocking and unblocking users, etc, has nothing to do with being a good contributor.
  • All my edits were in my best judgement.
  • I'm only 18 myself. And I have never edited Bill Gates.
  • Nineteen Eighty-Four is one of the true masterpieces of twentieth century literature. But don't hold that against me.

Thanks. — THE TROM — 03:53, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

BulbaBot's evil, you have to know that one. Anyway, that welcome was a sarcastic response welcome to your own sarcastic one, not towards you personally, but to all the dumbasses who come here and think that the rules don't apply because they never read them. I agree that the nominating system needs a makeover, which is part of the reason I'll be closing it at the end of the month.
Seriously, though, sarcasm begets sarcasm. That was my take on what the welcome could be and just the same a response to yours. Soooooo, yeah. It's not that I think it was stupid (it's a spun look at us, I'll give you that), it's that I respond from the other side. TTEchidna 04:03, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Haha, yeah, I'd picked up a bit of hostility towards the Bot around here. I appreciate your remarks though, but next time I'd appreciate a quiet word in the ear rather than making it look like I'd written something like that. (I'm aware it was signed, but it was on my page. And also if you want to talk feel free to use your own account :D you'll give BB a bad name). I may have some ideas for a revamped adminship system, so feel free to get back to me on that one (don't worry, I'm not importing from Wiki on this one. They're trying to change their system as well right now). Have a nice day. — THE TROM — 04:14, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and before I forget, which is the correct teams template to use? If I'm being yelled at for copyediting trivia I may as well find something else to do. Standardisation, here I come! — THE TROM — 04:17, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
The one that can hide away is what to use. It's on Brock's page. TTEchidna 05:47, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Template protection

How should I request protection for a template? I'm noticing more and more unprotected templates that are in use on hundreds of pages. — Laoris (Blah) 07:56, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

What template? Telling an admin's likely the best way. TTEchidna 08:07, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, ones I can think of right now that could need protection are: Template:Disambig, Template:EpisodePrevNext, Template:Tmdisambig and Template:Tcgpkmndisambig (which incidentally both appear to be exact copies of disambig; maybe they should redirect?), Template:Pdollar, Template:DisambigPokémon, and Template:BaseStats. Several of these are redirects, and I don't know if any of these are being left unprotected for a good reason, but they are used in an awful lot of places. — Laoris (Blah) 08:20, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Link me? TTEchidna 08:21, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Good. The different disambigs categorize the pages they're on. TTEchidna 08:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


I haven't been here for the last week or so, as I'm sure you've noticed. Any significant 'pedia developments I should know about? I'll be on AIM later tonight, and we can talk extensively then, but for now? --ニョロトノ666 17:02, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, I see there's the Bronze Bulbasaur thing, but aside from that...? --ニョロトノ666 17:09, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


Can we use side-game artworks in Celebi's, as well as some others', page, like Ranger artwork? *tc26* 07:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Done by Sugimori? What artwork do you speak of? TTEchidna 07:46, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
In the Japanese Pokémon site, I saw several artwork of some Pokémon from Ranger (first game). It has Celebi, legendary dogs and others. *tc26* 08:02, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Show me said artwork? Japanese Pokémon site? Meaning Pokémon Wiki or TTEchidna 08:04, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
*tc26* 08:08, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
It'd be nice if you could get them a bit higher-res... but these are all right. TTEchidna 08:15, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
So, I'll just get the Johto ones, alright? *tc26* 08:17, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Yep. Which will be replaced around this time next year if everything goes as I wish. TTEchidna 08:28, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Done *tc26* 08:48, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

name change

im thinking of User:Ash's Number 1 Fan but if I grow tired of it am i allowed to change it back? --Guardian of Earth |SGMS 2010

Nope. It's final. TTEchidna 22:15, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Platinum move tutor learnlists

I added the last one today, so it's probably ready to come off the front page. — Laoris (Blah) 01:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Done. TTEchidna 01:21, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Edit request

I made an edit request here. Could you please do the request? Chocolate((Talk to Me|Look at My Contributions)) 01:26, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


All of the code that you need is already on this page.--RexRacer -talk 05:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Fair Use

When uploading images, can one copy and paste from another site, or does that violate fair use?--RexRacer -talk 05:19, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Uhm... I dunno, actually. It's always good to ask... Pokebeach is a strict NO. TTEchidna 06:07, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Haha, you blocked Kuki again!--RexRacer -talk 06:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
What? TTEchidna 06:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Well, Bulbabot did it...I won't tell anyone--RexRacer -talk 06:14, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Did what? What's going on? What was its reason? TTEchidna 06:15, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Hit me baby one more time. TTEchidna 06:31, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Very nice--RexRacer -talk 06:32, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


Should be moved to abuse--RexRacer -talk 06:59, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Done. TTEchidna 07:01, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


I have 2 questions about the images that are shown for the legendary Pokemon. First off, they were updated to the "Ranger" images...why? I thought the Sugimori images were the standard ones to use. Second, where are the "Ranger" images from? I don't think they are from Ranger because I have a guide book to Mystery Dungeon Red and Blue and it has those images in the book (unless whoever makes the side games/merch is just lazy and repeats the artwork so it's less money to pay to the artists.) --いぬみみ 21:16, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I dunno, they might just be updated stock art Sugimori did. They're definitely his style. TTEchidna 21:21, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Unified Login

Hey there boss-guy! When clicking on the unified login in "My Preferences", I get this message:

You can now log in to any Wikimedia wiki site without creating a new account; the same username and password will work on Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikibooks, and their sister projects in all languages.

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The account named "The dark lord trombonator" on each the following sites have been automatically attached to the unified account:

I don't particularly want unified login, so I'm glad that for some reason it didn't work. However, you may wish to change the software so it doesn't give all the Wikipedia references. Because, clearly, unifying a BP login will have no effect on Wikipedia accounts. I hope you can fix this; it's rather messy IMHO. Thanks, have a good day. — THE TROM — 05:32, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh that's only if you decide to login on News and Archives to do stuff there. It's not connected to TOW at all. Didn't know that that reference to Kipedia was still in there... I'll see if I can find it to change. TTEchidna 06:14, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Hah, found it. It should be perfect now. If you note any oddities in the future, plz to be telling me. TTEchidna 07:30, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh Mighty One....

... Shall I continue with the Number Redirects? I'm having a little Catfight with RexRacer, Claiming to be nothing but 4 Variables left, (Almia, Original Anime, Manga and National), For the mean time I have stopped at 252, The Almia ends at 267 (about 15 more) yet the Anime ends at 274 so there's(Lets see, 15, Divide by the 5, Add the 5, Add the 7, Then add the 7 again) 22 numbers left!, Which is not much IMO. So should I continue or not. Yes, No, Maybe. --Force Fire 06:50, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Continue until there's only one thing that goes that far, which is the National Dex. After you hit that point, I dunno if it'd be prudent or not to redirect to Ndex... I only did so with 000 because everyone knows 000 is Missingno.. TTEchidna 06:54, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
You're the boss! --Force Fire 06:55, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Even factoring in just the volume releases, and even without the information for Volume 29 (which we should be finding out soon), Pokémon Special will be reflected in the number disambigs as far as 327 (matching round's article would be at PS327 once it's made). This figure should increase by at least a few once we get volume 29 info, and should jump big-time if volume 29 includes the start of the Diamond/Pearl chapter (which we have some serialization-based lists for that will be updated once it hits volume). Keep in mind that Volume 30 is also coming soon, so odds are we'll get that big Diamond/Pearl jump sooner rather than later (even if the Diamond/Pearl chapter doesn't get into volume release with 29). --Shiningpikablu252 16:23, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Also, anime is not out yet. The original series may contain 274 episodes, but the next one could have for example the following number reference: "275th episode of the anime, Get the Show on the Road!" :P UltimateSephiroth (user · talk · contrib) 20:52, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

MIME type "application/x-php"?

I keep getting the messeage Files of the MIME type "application/x-php" are not allowed to be uploaded. when I want to upload a certain sprite. Do you know how can I fix it? It has to be the same file name, specifically River Flow 2fieldmove.PNG *tc26* 12:21, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Wait, what? Where are you uploading from? TTEchidna 20:36, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
My computer, like all the other field abilities I did. *tc26* 06:48, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Odd... Might be that it's saved as an incorrect extension... Any way you could get the file to me? TTEchidna 07:48, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
It was actually in PNG like the other field abilities. *tc26* 10:45, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
But was it saved correctly? TTEchidna 20:41, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, like the rest that were uploaded. *tc26* 16:03, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Castform Spritebox

Hey TTE, I thought of an idea for the Spriteboxes of Pokémon with vastly different types between their different forms (like Castform and Wormadam). Since my Castform Spriteboxes got protected (which is really cool by the way) I copied the code from the Gen III one to the Sandbox and modified it a bit. If you like the idea, feel free to implement. Either way, feel free to erase it from the Sandbox. Also, the Gen IV Castform template was never implemented.--MisterE13 19:32, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Also, what are we making the official rules for the sprite templates? What's the cutoff number of forms/Formes before we use the time-based ones instead of the "Just show them all" ones.
I'd imagine Rotom's the limit. Except Unown which is weird as hell. TTEchidna 04:08, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
So the ones with more than 5 alternate forms get time-based ones. Good call. Did you check out the new Castform idea?--MisterE13 05:15, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
I like it, but JEEZ it'd be too much of a pain to implement. TTEchidna 05:23, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't know much about code but as far as I see it, numberforms/DiffTypes (or whatever code you want) then form1Type=type, form2Type=type etc. Where number is the number of forms and type is the type of that form.--MisterE13 05:31, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Eh, still, it'd be a pretty big pain... Passing all sorts of variables. The template's enough of a mess as-is! TTEchidna 07:50, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
OK--MisterE13 21:37, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

How does your friend

BulbaBot feel about the new welcome template?--RexRacer -talk 03:50, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Unwelcome. TTEchidna 05:24, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Ah--RexRacer -talk 05:35, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


You locked the page, so I can't respond. I think that adding a sprite somewhere would help it a lot. --RexRacer -talk 21:54, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

It'll be unlocked again in about five minutes. I was making a modification to the page and didn't want an edit conflict. TTEchidna 21:57, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
why would we need to add a sprite, if youre on the respective Pokemon's page? -- MAGNEDETH 22:00, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


Why don't we make templates for all of the Pokémon that redirect to their pages? Like {{Bulbasaur}} could link to Bulbasaur (Pokémon) and eliminate the need for the the Pokémon template, making it more uniform to things like {{Delila}} and {{Ash}}. What do you think? --RexRacer -talk 20:03, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

because then wed need to make a template for every single Pokemon. the P template is exactly what it is, P|<Pokemon>. one template, covers everything. the anime templates link to their articles because their the only ones. -- MAGNEDETH 20:07, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, and then if we took those Pokémon name templates into use, either we'd have two different kinds of templates all over the place or we'd have a hellish replacement project waiting us. UltimateSephiroth (about me · chat · edits) 20:10, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Basically, alot less templatesDCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))

I gotta ask...

Up at the top of your talk page, you get to brag because... Cookie Monster rules the world. (Is being a tattle-tale on DCM. Shh... don't tell him)The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear! 20:40, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

User tag warning template?

I've noticed a fair few users copying the code for user tags, rather than using say.. {{User Diamond}}. As a result, users like Animine have their user pages categorised as a tag.. in fact, said example will be solved in a second. Gywall(Talk) 21:46, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

As a sample for code.. as used on said user's talk page:
  • Your user page was categorised with the user tags. In future, please link to tags like: {{template|User Likes Blue}} rather than copying the code from the page. Thank you. ~~~~
Would that be ok to use for a template? Gywall(Talk) 22:06, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes, do it. TTEchidna 22:24, 30 November 2008 (UTC)


You just made them admin...that one guy hasn't even contributed yet and only joined on November 24...I laugh at that.--Tavisource 03:39, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

They're actually behind the scenes guys on Bulbagarden. TTEchidna 04:59, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
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