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Attention: Before you post

Since this has happened repeatedly, here is a list of Pokémon belonging to rivals/recurring in the anime that I wish you would not ask me about making them in your userspace. These Pokémon did have articles before but the Editorial Board agreed upon them being merged into the Trainer's article. Here is the list:

  • Gary's Nidoking
  • Gary's Nidoqueen
  • Drew's Flygon
  • Drew's Masquerain
  • Drew's Absol
  • Drew's Butterfree
  • Harley's Banette
  • Harley's Ariados
  • Harley's Octillery
  • Harley's Wigglytuff
  • Paul's Azumarill
  • Paul's Stantler
  • Paul's Weavile
  • Paul's Gliscor
  • Paul's Ninjask
  • Paul's Drapion
  • Barry's Heracross
  • Zoey's Mismagius
  • Nando's Sunflora
  • Kenny's Alakazam
  • Kenny's Breloom
  • Ursula's Plusle and Minun
  • Casey's Elekid
  • Happy - Ritchie's Butterfree
  • Cruise - Ritchie's Pupitar
  • Rose - Ritchie's Taillow
  • Volkner's Raichu
  • Volkner's Luxray

There are more than this, but most of the others were Gym Leader/Elite Four/Frontier Brain Pokémon and I have yet to be asked about recreating them.

If you would be so kind, try to avoid asking about these Pokémon. The main reason being the obvious one: they were already here and deemed unnotable. The second is about history preservation for the articles that were redirected and not deleted before then. If the decisions were to ever be overturned, the redirects that exist now can be reverted back to the way the were and history will be preserved. Moving a userspace article over the redirect will erase all the history from before. I recommend saving your work on an external program for use at a later time or write what ever information you have into the Trainer article itself. Thank you for understanding. --ケンジガール

Cress's Panpour

I think that since we have an article for Chili's Pansear and Cilan's Pansage, we should have an article for Cress's Panpour in the anime. What do you think? Satoshi101 22:14, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Cress's Panpour has appeared only in one episode. Please read this before making that page. -- ✔Poké.geek✔ 22:18, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Oh. Just making sure things are consistent. Satoshi101 22:22, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, as Poke.geek said, Panpour has done nothing of significance. Cilan's a main character and Pansear had an episode about it. --ケンジガール 03:34, 28 December 2011 (UTC) Images

Do we not mention screenshots for the Original Series? Because the whole Original series pages (EP001-EP274) is missing those footnotes and I know for a fact that the website has them. (Because I've seen them). Thanks in advance. --Pokemaster97 00:20, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

You probably could include them if there are any, but we'll see what Kenji's two-cents is. サトシ 00:27, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Yea the thing is though it's like 272 something episodes, and I rather not add all of them myself DX --Pokemaster97 00:29, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
If available than yes, it should be mentioned. --ケンジガール 03:34, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Your Assistance here please

This user refuses to listen to anyone and just keeps changing the page in his favore despite people (mostly me) saying that he is int he wrong. I'm not going to edit this page any further because I'm not getting into an edit war but your help would be greatly appreciated. --HoennMaster 00:24, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

He has a point though. There should be a written documentation proving they exist. Voice actors are a good source but it was such a long time ago and there was never a quote given other than "voice actors said so". --ケンジガール 03:34, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
I agree the part saying they existed could be removed, but flat out removal like this user wants is what I'm against. I know Maddie Blaustien said something about this when she joined Serebii a few years ago. --HoennMaster 17:37, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


Ok, I'll stop editing. I'm sorry. I didn't see what was on my userpage. I'll wait until the anime confirms it which might be never. I was just trying to help and spread useful knowledge. --[[MichaelXD| 28 December 2011 - - unsigned comment from MichaelXD (talkcontribs)

Carter Cathcart

I've noticed back in February you moved Carter Cathcart to Jimmy Zoppi. However, Jimmy Zoppi is not his real name. It's James Carter Cathcart. I don't know why you changed it, but I think it should be at either James Carter Cathcart or Carter Cathcart. Just like how Kayzie Rogers' article is not titled "Jamie Peacock." サトシ 19:17, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

First of all, I never moved Carter Cathcart to Jimmy Zoppi. All I did was redirect the name. The page was always Jimmy Zoppi and no one ever attempted to move it. Second, I didn't know that was his real name back then. People will voice there opinions on the move on the talk page and we'll see what happens. --ケンジガール 22:50, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Oh, sorry. I forgot that was months ago. Anyway, we'll just see how it goes. サトシ 00:06, 31 December 2011 (UTC)


Hey KG, we're having a small issue with EP081. A user is changing the page to say it is the first episode of the Orange Islands Saga while it's listed as the last episode of the Indigo League on all the other pages on here. Is he right or no? We've tried undoing him twice, but he just undos our edits and I don't feel like edit warring. Thanks! --Pokemaster97 01:52, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the user is saying it is Season 2 because it is included on the Orange Islands DVD boxset. However, it really is a Season 1 episode. Season 1 theme, belongs to the Indigo arc, etc. But I agree a MOD intervention would be great. --HoennMaster 05:28, 31 December 2011 (UTC)


Umm I'm not sure if you're the person to ask about this and I'm also not sure if this is where I'm supposed to ask you, but I had a question. Is there an article that lists all the pronunciations for every Pokémon, because I haven't been able to find one and I wanted to make that article if it doesn't exist (assuming there's nothing wrong with that). I just wanted to make sure I didn't make the same article twice and it seems like something that would have been made by now. Thanks Frenchhorn 21:18, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

We don't list pronunciations because there is no official agreement on pronunciations. All forms of media differ on some Pokemon, be it the characters or narrator of the anime, announcers in the games, or even Nintendo themselves in various publications. -- MAGNEDETH 21:51, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Because this such a reccouring topic, why don't we make an page (either in the userspace or in mainspace) with all the known pronunciations for each Pokémon? Truthseeker4449 22:46, 31 December 2011 (UTC)


Mind popping on for 5 minutes? I won't try to keep you on long. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 09:02, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Again, please? -- MAGNEDETH 22:12, 25 February 2012 (UTC)


I love the third day of Christmas, wait didn't we do that already? Truthseeker4449 01:52, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm really not in charge of making that. The least I can do is inform the other admins. --ケンジガール 03:10, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

A proposal

Hey, KG...I've been wondering. Since we have a "Differences between the films" on the M14 page, I had an idea. Why don't we add a gallery of pictures to show the differences between the films? It'd show the differences better... Ataro 03:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea. --ケンジガール 03:10, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Ursula's Gabite

Hi Kenji, I want to get your opinion on whether Ursula's Gabite is actually female or not. Though it has the appearance of a girl, I dont think any male Gabite have appeared in the anime, besides the Mystery Dungeon one, which had the appearance of a female. Since the anime (possibly) only uses the female's design, Ursula's Gabite could be of either gender, and I think it should be treated like any other Pokemon with gender differences until a male is seen, for example Dodrio. Vuvuzela2010 Δ 17:24, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

The difference between Gabite and Dodrio is that Gabite is a Generation IV Pokémon while Dodrio isn't. But I have to admit this is walking down a dangerous road of uncertainty with the whole Mystery Dungeon special. This would also have to mean dealing with other Pokémon who we label by their gender difference, not just Gabite. Shinx, Buizel, Bibarel, Garchomp, and Gible are just a few of them. --ケンジガール 08:58, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

User:Satoshi101/Ursula's Plusle and Minun

Is this page notable? -- ✔Poké.geek✔ 18:33, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Please be patient, I am still working on it. I'd rather you not discuss this before I have shown my prototype (Userspace article) to her. サトシ 22:21, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
OK, now it's ready. What do you think, Kenji? サトシ 00:14, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
I really don't see this being mainspaced to be honest. All of this can fit perfectly on her page. They also didn't do that much. --ケンジガール 05:56, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
Well the thing is Plusle and Minun are her other main Pokémon. I think needing more than 2 episodes, a cameo in another episode, and a movie cameo (in the credits) is a lot to ask, considering the fact that unlike her other Pokémon (except Gabite) have only made major appearances in 1 episode, and never appearing after that. I don't see why they should be treated as Trainers-Pokémon-of-the-day. サトシ 00:14, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
All Plusle and Minun did was scare Dawn and battled, nothing else. PattyMan 00:22, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
They were in a contest, though. And not to mention her Gabite just did contests, nothing else. サトシ 00:31, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Why do you compare to Gabite? He is the primary of her, have nothing to discuss, PluMinus have did nothing after his debut appearance and to complete the article that you did is copy and paste this on the main page of Ursula.--Hikaru Wazana 01:35 - 6 January 2012 (UTC)
They did appear after their debut a few times. They even cameoed in the 14th movie credits. Who could ask for more? And I'm not the only one who suggested this, another user previously did. Sorry if I was too lazy to write a summary myself but I was hoping to use what I pasted there as a starting point. サトシ 23:31, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
They appeared only in three episodes and aren't her signature Pokémon. A cameo in the movie credits is hardly a reason to give them an article. --ケンジガール 02:43, 7 January 2012 (UTC)\
I never said they were her signature Pokémon. I said that after Gabite, they were her other main Pokémon. Neither did I say they should have an article because they cameoed in the 14th movie credits. It was because they were in 3 episodes, which is about the minimum amount a trainer's Pokémon deserves its own article. サトシ 05:58, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
"They even cameoed in the 14th movie credits. Who could ask for more?" - I'm sorry but that really sounds like you were implying that it is. Anyway, their first two appearances can basically count as one long episode. The other one was a minor cameo in the appeals round. --ケンジガール 23:49, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Then I guess it should stay on Ursula's page unless they make more appearances, which is very unlikely since both Ash and Dawn's adventures in Sinnoh have long been over. サトシ 02:26, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Lavender Town Syndrome

Me again, so recently I've been busying myself reading Lavender Town Syndrome stories. I noticed we don't have an article about it. I think it is article-worthy. It has lots of fan-based media and is highly controversial. So again, if there is no trouble, I can make this article. - unsigned comment from Frenchhorn (talkcontribs)

It is not article-worthy. It was a made-up story some guy made to scare little kids. I am making a user article about it, but it won't be mainspaced anytime soon. Pokedex493 01:21, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Okay, for some reason my signature screwed up. Pokedex493 01:22, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I think that was me. We have articles that come completely from fan based media, like nuzlocke challenge. If you type "lavender" (or just the letters "lave") into Google, Lavender Town Syndrome comes up before Lavender Town itself does. There are fan-fictions, Youtube videos, all kinds of media out there. Just because it isn't real doesn't mean that it can't have an article. Frenchhorn 02:09, 6 January 2012 (UTC) I think I can make a legitimate article for it, we post popular rumors quite often. Like the rumor about the truck having a Mew under it in RGB and the rumor about the scientist in the space center in Mossdeep that will allow you to go to the moon and catch a Jirachi/Deoxys is Ruby/Sapphire and Emerald. If we can present that in an article, I can present Lavender town syndrome. I think it's fair enough to add a section about it to the Lavender Town page. Frenchhorn 00:35, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm the wrong person to talk about if fan based things are notable or not. All I know is I heard of Nuzlocke and the truck, but never heard of Lavender Town stories. --ケンジガール 02:43, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Personally, I think a section on the Lavender Town page would be good. An entire article is unnecessary, but it's certainly famous enough to deserve a section on Lavender Town. --SnorlaxMonster 12:01, 7 January 2012 (UTC)


Hi. I've been editing several pages in the Pokémon anime section relating to the voice actors, etc, and I had a bit of a suggestion regarding to the voice actor "switch" (Oh! I'm so thankful that "controversy" is over). Anyway, since similar things have happened in other languages at different points in the series (such as European Portuguese with Season 10), and the VA is listed as simply: "VA A: EP001-DP139; VA B: DP140-Present", etc, I don't think it would be a bad idea for the same to be the case with the English since the episodes handled by TPCi is technically just a continuation of the 4Kids dub (making them different parts of the same "dub"), and that referring to each VA as being a part of different dubs would technically be incorrect (there's also the fact that technically PUSA/TPCi has been a part of the English dub from the beginning). At the very least I think referring to the specific VA's "cast" instead of "dub" would be more accurate, although it might still be a tad confusing for those unfamiliar with the cast switch (I know several dedicated Pokémon fans in real life who only noticed a couple characters' voices changing, and might be confused at the whole "4Kids dub/TPCi dub", "4Kids cast/TPCi cast" thing), and might get more information out of a more specific listing. What do you think? --HalloweenPistol13 08:09, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

That's sounds like a good idea. If you start, just make sure that you know the correct episodes they start/stop in. --ケンジガール 23:49, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Alright. I'll get onto it! The only page I'll need assistance on is Ash Ketchum since only Admins are allowed to change it, but otherwise, I think I've got this under control. --HalloweenPistol13 03:39, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Officer Jenny's Hurdier

I think that since Hurdier will be Officer Jenny's main Pokémon in Unova, we should create an article for it. We know another one has appeared in BW052, so that would be 2 (and counting) appearances. What do you think? サトシ 19:41, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

I agree. There's articles on Officer Jenny's Growlithe, Nurse Joy's Chansey and Audino so Officer Jenny's Hurdier should have an article. ZMT123 19:45, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Two episodes only. Not notable enough. Unlike Joy, Jenny uses a variety of different Pokémon. At least in Unova. --ケンジガール 23:49, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
But keep in mind that it will be the equivelent to their Growlithes. What we could do, however, is just wait until it gets more appearances. サトシ 02:23, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
That's what KG was trying to say. More major appearances equals more notability--SandmanDP 03:30, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
I was pointing out that there weren't only gonna be 2 Hurdier, and that eventually it would be notable. サトシ 23:32, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Episode titling punctuation

I noticed that the names of Pokemon episodes are punctuated on Bulbapedia with italics. I've learned that italics are used only for names of novels, films, television programs, and, when they were produced, Radio serials. Quotations are used for names of television episodes and shorts and poems, and I'm pretty sure something else. To open up episode articles, there's no punctuation in the English title, dub and translated. I know it would seem to be a long and tedious sub-project, but I'd be more than willing to help. Would you approve my doing this?--SandmanDP 22:18, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Personally, I feel that the italics are better than the quotes. Quotes don't get used around here unless we quote someone, among other things. --ケンジガール 23:49, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
But shouldn't proper grammar trump personal feeling?--SandmanDP 23:58, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
It should, unless there is an executive decision deciding otherwise. Hi, I'm the executive decision. It is true that in general episode names are quoted, but that isn't the case here for two reasons.
The first being that when the site was initially being built, someone decided to italicize them. Why did they do this? I don't know, but the fact of the matter is now we have thousands and thousands of italic episode titles all over the site. This would be an insane task to revert, but it isn't really a paramount issue because of reason number 2.
They look fine. Ok, there's more to it than that, but the basis being that they are clear and easily definable among other words so it doesn't really matter that much. Add into the first factor of there being so many and you have to ask, is it worth spending such a large amount of time to fix something that isn't really a big deal?
Yes it's wrong, but it isn't exactly going to break the site so for the time being, or the foreseeable future. We have many other projects both in planning, and at the ready, so the episode names shall remain italic. Besides, this is Bulbapedia, we do things different than everyone else. It's what makes us unique. -- MAGNEDETH 00:13, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Seems hypocritical on account of the grammar corrections that are constantly done. Why follow some grammar rules and ignore others?--SandmanDP 00:39, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Did you read my reply? I gave you three different answers to your question. -- MAGNEDETH 00:55, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

One little question

Ok, I think you should already be tired of answering this kind of stuff, but I wonder if I have your approval to create a page for Drew's Masquerain and Drew's Flygon. After all, Masquerain was used to gain a Ribonn for Drew, used in a battle against Team Rocket and May, used in two Grand Festivals and Flygon was used in both battles against May in both championships, used to try to capture Arcanine ,had few cameos during the Battle Frontier and used against Robert in the Grand Festival.--Hikaru Wazana 02:58 - 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Please see this
And I don't believe Masquerain did enough to warrant an article. It's article was also decided to be merged as the decision of the EB just like Flygon was. --ケンジガール 04:12, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
About this ...
Just out of curiosity, but the Pokemon of Ash's rivals are more notable than those of female characters in the series?
I mean, Harrison has a lot less appearances that Drew have and obtain pages to your main Pokemon(I'm not saying they do not notable, just to be able to better understand the rules), and if you count only the appearances of the Drew's Pokemon and them Harley's give more episodes than the appearances of Harrison own.
I'm not objecting, just wondering...
Taking advantage of the post, I've been there a while doing a page on Ash's rivals. I wonder if she has any chance of becoming part of the site mainspace or she will have to be deleted as of Cynthia when I was working?--Hikaru Wazana 02:18 - 15 January 2012 (UTC)
If I may put in my two cents, the page honestly has poor grammar, poor structure, and just putting the Starter Pokémon, especially when many are unconfirmed, is incomplete and speculative. To put the "Jaywalking" in "Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking", the r would be lowercase ie "Ash's rivals"--SandmanDP 02:24, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
The page is not ready, I'm just presenting the concept to see if I can go ahead with it.--Hikaru Wazana 02:31 - 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Not even sure what you mean by Ash's rival Pokémon being more notable than female characters. I'm not saying it's impossible for them to ever have an article. I just need to talk it over with the others. The point is we don't need someone to put a page in their userspace when the page already exists. As I said at the top, the redirects can just be reverted.
And like I said before, the rival page would at least have to have a better format before I can consider it. I don't care for the fanon terminology at the top to be honest. But it can possibly get on the site if the format is made presentable. Maybe you should refer to Ash's friends.
And to Sandman, the title of the page is not really an issue as we can just move it to the proper title when it's ready.--ケンジガール 18:25, 15 January 2012 (UTC)


Please block this user. He is violating so many rules, and he refuses to listen. サトシ 23:00, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

There is no evidence that I violated any rules. Please stop asking for something just because someone disagrees with you--SandmanDP 23:01, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Oh, you violated many! And you do not just disagree, you are being way too extreme! I am not exaggerating! サトシ 23:06, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Question about Genders of Anime Pokemon

Hey, it's me again. When was Chikorita confirmed as female and how come Cyndaquil and Totodile weren't? I now know how all of Ash's Sinnoh and Unova Pokemon were considered a certain gender because he's at least met one Pokemon with Attract in each of the 2 sagas and he only kept a team of 6 Pokemon. (MichaelXD 04:49, 12 January 2012 (UTC))

Nurse Joy said Chikorita was female in the original version of Chikorita's Big Upset. --ケンジガール 08:08, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Scraggy and Pinwheel Forest

Hey Kenji. Last year you said that the location where Scraggy hatched from his egg wasn't the Pinwheel Forest. However, the Pinwheel Forest articles says that the area they are in was the Pinwheel Forest. Obviously one should be changed to be correct but I'm curious as to what you would say would be the correct one. --HoennMaster 17:33, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

They made it pretty clear that they hadn't arrived in Pinwheel Forest until BW018. Otherwise they would have said so in BW017. --ケンジガール 13:00, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
If I might add, we list those kinds of things by route, and if you notice there's not a route outside Nacrene City. It just goes straight into the outskirts of the forest. So that's likely where it lead to some confusion. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 15:35, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Santa's Delibird

Is this article notable? It only appeared in one short, and none of its attacks were even shown. Littlmiget123 16:01, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Hmm... from what I remember, maybe not. --ケンジガール 16:08, 19 January 2012 (UTC)


I noticed that you edited the thread for that episode recently, I think to include Professor Juniper, maybe because of the preview on Pokemon Smash. Though, we knew that because of the VA list, which I stated on the talk page for that episode. I'd also like to point out that Oshawott is in the episode because it spoke in the last 10 seconds of the preview on thursday. The VA list also lists Excadrill and Krokorok, possibly the Sunglasses Krokorok one, for being in this episode. Playerking95 00:04, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Can I have a link to the VA list? Because I am not finding it anywhere. --ケンジガール 01:53, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Here. ♫♪ エイディニズ ♪♫ 05:30, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Trainer Pokémon sections

Hey KG, I was wondering about some pages that have lots of different sections under a "Pokémon" section. Namely the professors. For example, if you take a look at Professor Oak, his Pokémon sections say "On hand", "Status unknown", "Gives to new trainers"; and then it sort of forgets the section it's in so it has to remind itself; "Pokémon he gave away to trainers", "Pokémon residing at Oak's Lab", and "Pokémon that previously resided at Oak's lab." Can we reword the last three so they don't include the word "Pokémon"? It seemed redundant to me, and it makes articles like Professor Elm confusing when we have a "Pokémon he gave away to trainers" section and a "Given away" section. What's your opinion? Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 23:09, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Sure. --ケンジガール 23:20, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Possible new page idea

Hey Kenji, I know this isn't really anime related, but a long time ago a discussion was held on this page in which you suggested that we should put all the Watering items as their own page instead of them having their own individual pages. I decided to come up with a "rough draft" of what I think the page could look like and was wondering what you think. I kind of wanted to see if it was ok continuing to make this before I go through all the work of editing it. Right now I just have a section for the Squirtbottle but I would also add sections for the Wailmer Pail and Sprayduck as well as a section for their brief appearances in the anime. --HoennMaster 06:58, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I think the page has potential. Looking good so far. --ケンジガール 20:25, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Recurring Characters

Just wondering, can I create a page for all the recurring characters .Pokégeek✔ 12:14, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

I really don't see a point to it. Sorry. --ケンジガール 12:16, 26 January 2012 (UTC)


Would you mind my asking you to take a look at this topic I brought up? As Project Anime and Film head, I think it's quite important for you to see--SandmanDP 00:01, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

"Diamond & Pearl" to "Diamond and Pearl"

Now that we're going with calling season 15 "Black & White: Rival Destinies", for consistancy's sake, shouldn't that also mean that the titles of seasons 11-13 be moved to have "Diamond & Pearl" replaced with "Diamond and Pearl"? Seeing as the "and" is used instead of the ampersand in dub-related circumstances (like season 10).Despite how minor it is - calling those seasons "Diamond & Pearl" would be equivilant to calling season 15 "Pokemon Best Wishes: Rival Destinies".

I know there was a discussion on the season 11 talkpage, but the title of season 15 pretty much flies in the face of every argument against using the ampersand in the DP season names. -Thingamajig257- 12:06, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

From what I've seen, every official source calls the seasons "Pokémon: DP", not "Pokémon Diamond & Pearl" or "Pokémon Diamond and Pearl". Unless it was spoken that way officially. Maybe wait until we see the official season title of Rival Destinies? For all we know they're doing the same thing (Pokémon BW: Rival Destinies). There's always a change the ToonZone forum is presenting it incorrectly. If that would be the case I would say move those seasons to abbreviated form. We should be really naming them how presents them in my opinion, which we are not doing currently. --ケンジガール 11:25, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't remember whether they used "&" or "and" but Cartoon Network* tends to use the full name of the seasons in their promos, not just the abbreviations i.e the current style that we've been following. ♫♪ エイディニズ ♪♫ 12:22, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Well we could move the articles to DP and B&W, which is a perfectly logical choice - but I was thinking that if we were going to stick with calling season 15 "Black & White: Rival Destinies" and not "Best Wishes: Rival Destinies" then the DP articles should have their titles changed to be consistent with that. -Thingamajig257- 05:06, 31 January 2012 (UTC)


I had been put to this usergroup by mistake. I didn't spam edits, all my edits are major, i edit every 20 minutes, and all my edits are in sucession. Yet i still got put to forcepreview. Release me please!--My r6g4rdz, TEH GIGA-UBER-1337-HAX0R(Mr-ex777) 14:02, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

The point isn't that you're editing the page every twenty minutes, the point is that you're making a lot of them. If you're playing the game as you write this, you could play the game first, clear the part you need, then write everything down in a notepad file, do some cleanup, and then submit it. Between yesterday and today you made 15 edits to the same page. You've failed to listen to repeated warnings about the preview button, you even got a huge one to use, so we have to set you in the forced preview one. Masatoshitalk 14:39, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

End of spoiler notice?

I saw an end of spoiler notice on a page about one of the episodes (I don't remember which one) and was wondering if it should be put on all the pages about the episode. If so, I would love to help out. Sambam124 01:48, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Since everything below the episode information is spoilers, I don't think it's needed really. The one episode that does have should have it removed. --ケンジガール 07:09, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Alder's Bouffalant

I've done some work on a page for Alder's Bouffalant, but even if it's not quite notable enough to mainspace just yet, I'd like to ask for some help on the move templates. I can't figure out how to get it to stop displaying "using Vine Whip", and I also don't get how to write Surf's debut place in the Special template. --The Great Butler 01:22, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

You know you're really supposed to ask first if you want to create an anime Pokémon page. Someone already asked me about it before and they even had the text saved ready. We try not to make Pokémon in the userspace so they can be put directly in the main space when the time comes. This was done because so many people were making Pokémon in their userspace. However, it's a rule I haven't been enforcing lately...
Anyway, it seems that you got the anime moves right. But for the manga, I would need to know the chapter it used the move in. It would be PS---. I'm guessing it's not known since it's not on Alder's page either. --ケンジガール 08:17, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Excuse me for chiming in KG, but I don't think this Pokémon needs its own page. It's pretty short, and I think it would fit on Alder's page better. And plus, it also had appearances in the games. Just my two cents. サトシ 00:04, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Professor Juniper (anime)

I've noticed Prof. Juniper has made quite a few appearances in BW. So I was wondering, would an anime article for Juniper be notable? サトシ 20:43, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

though she has made many appearences in the anime, her character has not been much more notablte than Elm or Birch, the reason we Proffesor Oak (anime) is because unlike the other proffesors he has been a constant character throughout the anime and therefore had a ton of info in his anime section. Because of the sheer mass and giant size of his page, the article was split, as it was for Giovanni and Giovanni (anime), if Juniper's anime section gets that large we'll do the same, the rules for this are a little different to how we'd decide if a rivals pokemon for instance, deserves a page :) Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 22:58, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
What he said. Juniper should at least appear in more than one series anyway.--ケンジガール 22:51, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Crustle and Joltik

Hey Kenji-girl, when I was watching episode subbed by [PM], I noticed that they're using Batul instead of Bachuru and Iwapalace instead of Iwaparesu. What do you think? Is it the true spelling? Sorry about the stupid question, just asking because it can be useful... TheSeviper ♫ハブネーク♫ 12:15, 11 February 2012 (GMT)

PM is notorious for using made up romanizations rather than using what's official when they don't know what the true romanizations are. For example, they use "Deathmas" and "Deathkarn" when it has been proven that they are officially romanized as Desumasu and Desukarn. We've had a lot of problems caused over here because users trusted what they said. Like "Ranculus" instead of Lanculus. Now it's true that they have been correct sometimes, but we only take our romanizations from official media like stickers or other merchandise that spell the Pokémon names in romaji. --ケンジガール 11:30, 11 February 2012 (UTC)


Stop removing my work. What I am doing reflects both versions of DD/WTP. Dare da is listed first, then the English. You even approved it. Please stop making my work worthless--SandmanDP 00:35, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I approved nothing. Pokémaster97 was the only admin that responded to you. And he did not give you a direct yes. --ケンジガール 00:38, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Correction: Pokemaster97 is not an admin. --ケンジガール 00:42, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
It's called "Dare da?" in Japan. Not Who's That Pokémon. My edits reflect that. I know you are Project Anime head, but that only means you of all people should understand why I'm doing what I'm doing.--SandmanDP 00:45, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
It's still the same thing. Dare da just means "Who's This?" They even share the same article. You thinking I would approve does not mean you got my approval. Coming to me in the first place would have helped greatly. --ケンジガール 00:48, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Alright. I know they have the same article. I'm sorry for not waiting for you, but I incorporated it as I was executing the correct order I hope I have your approval now. --SandmanDP 00:56, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
There was no need for it in the first place. Since they are the same thing, it's perfectly acceptable the way it is. --ケンジガール 01:02, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
There was a need, especially because banned episodes such as EP250 had WTP labeled when there was no actual WTP but a DD--SandmanDP 01:07, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Everything else in those episodes goes by its English name. The WTP should not get special treatment. --ケンジガール 01:11, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Special treatment? There is no special treatment. The special treatment you're trying to give it isn't special it is incorrect. If what I'm doing is incorrect, why is the Japanese screenshot marked Dare da and put BEFORE the English WTP?--SandmanDP 01:12, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
How is it incorrect when everything else in a non-dubbed episode has English names for everything else? The only reason the images have it is so there isn't "Who's That Pokémon" on both images. And even then there is a tt template on it saying that it's still WTP. --ケンジガール 01:22, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Pardon me for commenting on the conversation Kenji-girl, but I said I didn't see a problem with switching the order of the WTP on some of the episode pages to match the order of the main WTP page (Like putting the Japanese Pokémon first then the international one), not to do all of this Dare da stuff your doing Sandman. He took it upon himself to do that. Just trying to explain my involvement. --Pokemaster97 01:23, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
KG, you are not looking at the big picture. The images will come. The images are not the issue, it's the inconsistency that putting the US WTP first before Japan when the Japan image is first. Leaving inconsistencies alone means confusion, and in the real world would also lead to improper findings and botched medical procedures and that leads to lawsuits.--SandmanDP 16:59, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
You're aware that you're comparing the ordering of some obscure information about decade-old cartoons on a fan-edited wiki... to medical malpractice, right?
"So, it turns out the doctor took out the wrong kidney and I'll be on dialysis for the rest of my life. You know, it really reminds me of the time that Bulbapedia put the English Who's that Pokemon before the Japanese one."
If this analogy achieves one thing, it's illustrating how vanishingly insignificant this crusade is in the grand scheme of things. Other stuff on the wiki needs work, and you're obviously interested in details. Please, find something else to do here. Bikini Miltank 21:54, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Lugia M14

Swanna don't have blue eye masks on their face. If you look at the intro, the giant white bird Pokémon shown have blue masks.

Yamitora1 10:30, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Click here please
I see no giant white birds with blue masks here. The only thing close to it is Swanna which those clearly are. And I even checked the entire intro and there were no Lugia. --ケンジガール 10:37, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Do you have a screen shot? I have the movie on my DVR. I know its not high def, but they look like Lugia to me. There is a blue mask, or as the Lugia article puts it spikes over the eyes, and where the tail is blue spikes. Wait until Volcarona shows up, he will eclipse one of them the second it appears. There is another one to Archeops's left, it is flying slightly lower. Yamitora1 10:48, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
I have a high definition of the movie in Japanese that was taken from a DVD. I've looked and they are Swanna. Because they are so far away their outlines become dark making it look like they have something over their eyes but they really don't.
This series is intent on not having any Pokémon from the previous generations appear live. It doesn't make any sense for them to have Lugia. --ケンジガール 10:57, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Oh ok i see. I forgot that few Pokémon not from Gen 5 live in the region. Ok sorry for bugging you then. Yamitora1 11:06, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Well looks like i was destined to do a swanna related edit. I was watching White's credits and saw swanna. The M14 article listed swanna as black exclusive, so i had to fix it. swanna are glory hogs lol Yamitora1 01:03, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to bug you again, I have a question

Sorry about this, I'm use to forums or sites where you can PM/e-mail admins, I'm still new to wikis in general. I never tried too hard to edit them because they are too techy for me, and I have heard many horror stories about childish behavior from editors and those who run wikis alike.

Anyways is there a list of websites that this wiki considers trust worthy? I came across this article about there being no more games for Gen V like a third version.

If that article can be trusted, shouldn't some mention about that info be added to the articles relating to Black and White and the Version article?

I know from common sense and reading the Version article that a formula has been followed since the beginning. However, if there is not going be a third version of the games, then some mention that the formula has been broken should be made on the affected articles am i correct?

Again, sorry for bugging you and/or rambling. Yamitora1 11:45, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

This story is quite old and it has been proven false by the person who made that quote. There is a Bulbanews story somewhere about both somewhere. Mana Ibe has already stated that they misunderstood what she said. She meant Black and White is over, not necessarily the Generation. --ケンジガール 11:54, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Oh ok, lol thx. Yamitora1 12:45, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
If you're interested, here are the Bulbanews articles: Mana Ibe's statement, Masuda denying it. --SnorlaxMonster 12:49, 19 February 2012 (UTC)


Good evening!I have a question to ask.When I finish completing a snyopsis as I did with this one, can I remove the "synopsis incomplete" template or should I let an administrator know about this and he/she will remove it?----DJWolfy 20:37, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

You can remove it once you've finished. --ケンジガール 09:53, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Even the "This anime related project is a stub"?----DJWolfy 11:55, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Yes. If it has a full synopsis, it is most certainly not a stub. Werdnae (talk) 19:50, 20 February 2012 (UTC)


Ok so yesterday while I was looking in the Editor's Hub I found out after paying a bit of attention that some moves like Blizzard have a Description section while others don't. Why is it so ?----DJWolfy 21:07, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm guessing because no one got to writing it yet. --ケンジガール 06:48, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
The description section was implemented about a month ago. We're still working on adding it to all pages. If you can help, please do so. --SnorlaxMonster 10:41, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
I will,but could I get an exact list of the games which descriptions must be used ? - unsigned comment from DJWolfy (talkcontribs)
Btw, I also noticed this page Denjirō. While it seems that this character appeared only once in the anime, I've never even heard its name the entire episode, meaning he doesn't have an english name. Shouldn't that template be removed from its page ? ----DJWolfy 20:32, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Just because it's not spoken doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have one. People can always ask voice actors and find out or it could be revealed on some sort of merchandise. Take Tobias, Umberto, and Allegra are such examples. --ケンジガール 20:47, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
I understand :P, And about the moves' description. From which games should I take information aside from the main games,XD and colosseum ?----DJWolfy 13:16, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
Nevermind that, I forgot that you are only on the anime side. Btw do all the episodes must have the "Who's that Pokémon in the Japanese version ? I mean,doesn't this site focus more on the English dub ?----DJWolfy 15:49, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
We are focused on both the original and the dub. So yes, we do need all of the "Who's That Pokémon". --ケンジガール 19:25, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
All the "Who's that Pokémon" as in English dub or "Dare da?" or both can be added to an episode's page ?
Both of them. --ケンジガール 19:30, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
That'll take time,but as soon as I complete the synopsis for the remaining episodes I'll try to focus on that. Anyway, thank you for your kind help!----DJWolfy 19:33, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Removable subpage?

I asked Maverick Nate a couple of days ago to remove but now I'm just wondering if [this subpage] is worth removing since it seems to be a bunch of blank party templates with just some Pokémon names and no attack moves at all throughout the page. Frozen Fennec 16:20, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Every user is entitled to have a sandbox in their userspace. Even if its full of things that will never be used. --ケンジガール 16:33, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Ah, ok then. Remember going there from wanted pages. Fixed one of the templates, apparently there was a second broke template on the page, checking the full thing, I have yet to say that other broke template of Pokémon/6. Guess it was fixed awhile back. Thanks for the response and answer. Appreciate it. Frozen Fennec 16:35, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

i and mask are different i havenot created that account which name is mask please unblock him or her --S.M 10:07, 24 February 2012 (UTC)


Could you also protect these three articles please? I left templates on them, before realising it would be better to just ask someone. XVuvuzela2010X 23:29, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Page protection

Is it because of the new formes? I mean it supprised me too, but I wanted to add some stuff to Kyurem's page trivia. Like this:

The reason for the extra data placeholders

or something. When will editing be back?--×Rsrdaman× 00:12, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Hack games

I just noticed that one of the linkd at the bottom of the hack games article was broken. I would have deleted it, but a message came up saying something like 'Kenji-girl has protected this page to all but established users (excessive spamming)'. It didn't seem to be stopping me from editing it, but I thought I'd better ask you first. GoldenCelebi 22:16, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

It's only blocked for users who recently joined. We have had problems with people joining just so they can add some unnotable hack game they discovered. It's alright for your to edit it to fix links though. --ケンジガール 22:36, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Um, could I ask you something?

You stated that not everyone is banned for sharing an IP. Then why was my brother banned? I'd like to know. He did nothing wrong. It was me spreading rumors that Brock's Vulpix was ◙. Where the rumors came from is hearsay because my brother's friend Max might've heard a long time ago that his cousins or his friends at his aunt's house thought it was ◙ and the rules say that if the majority votes or thinks it's this, then it must be true whether one person believes it or not. (MichaelXD 00:02, 28 February 2012 (UTC))

I don't know your situation so I can't have an opinion on it. All I know is most users don't get banned for sharing IP addresses. --ケンジガール 00:07, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

How do you get consensus

I raised a question about adding DoubleSlap to Pikachutwo's moves since he repeatedly smacks ash' pikachu on hand after another. Dennou Zenshi mentioned something about Mewtwo using disable, which now I wonder what that has anything to do with anything. I spent the last two hours watching Mewtwo Strikes Back for said scene and if you take to heart what Mewtwo says, he only disabled Special type moves like fire, water and electricity. DoubleSlap is a physical move; but again i don't see what disable has to do with anything. Well I added DoubleSlap to Pikachutwo's moves, and Dennou Zenshi undid it saying there was no consensus. only he, and I have weighed in on a topic

How do you get consensus when only two people have weighed in on a topic? help Yamitora1 20:19, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Trip's Gurdurr

Is Trip's Gurdurr* almost ready to have its own article, or is it in the same situation as Drew's Flygon and Paul's Weavile? It did compete in a major tournament and it is about to compete in another major tournament*. PattyMan 03:34, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

I really can't be certain at the moment. --ケンジガール 03:38, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Ok. Well one thing for sure is that it was like Weavile a bit as the battles shown onscreen were losses. Unfortunately, the article has been created already. PattyMan 03:48, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
While the subject's up, I actually was going to ask if someone could help fix up the parts of that page I couldn't do alone, please? I would like to have it as ready as possible before the Donamite starts.
Oh dear, I'm sorry I didn't see the note you left me about not making Pokémon in the userspace. --The Great Butler 04:20, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Looks like I wasn't the only one who thought that Trip's Gurdurr was going to be notable for its own article. PattyMan 05:52, 1 March 2012 (UTC)


Why did you hide the debuts? If we go by the logic that the Pokemon could randomly appear before they battle in BW070(even though that would seem weird, especially since the Club Battle didn't do that), then Simisage could randomly appear in BW069, so then we should hide him debuting for that episode, no? Playerking95 04:06, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

BW069 is not part of the Donamite arc the same rules do not have to apply to it. There is always that chance that some of the Trainers could want to show off their Pokémon before the battles start. Or they could be walking with them. Who knows? It might not happen but it could even if it didn't happen in the Club Battle. --ケンジガール 04:23, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
What I'm saying is, hiding the debuts of those Pokemon is fair and all, since they could somehow appear in the previous episode, but you could say the same with BW069. A lot of people will be in the race and who's to say some of the debuting Pokemon don't debut in BW069, like Simisage. So, if you didn't hide Simisage since it is likely going to debut in BW)70, then why can't we do the same for the Pokemon in BW071. Therefore there wouldn't be double standards. And also, I realized that Throh and Conkeldurr are on in BW070 anyway, since they are on the to be continued bit of what looks to be BW070. Playerking95 11:15, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
It's not confirmed to continue on into it though. Other than most likely Stephan accompanying the group to Toaru Town. BW070 and BW071 obviously share a connection with each other that's far greater than BW069. They are part of an arc. And it's perfectly reasonable to suspect their might be cameos or appearances before the episode you think they will battle in. BW069 has not been shown to have any connection to BW070. Therefore there's no reason to suspect Simisage's appearance will happen before then. --ケンジガール 19:56, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Glitch Pokemon template

I noticed on some glitch Pokemon pages that they have the template but are not included in it. Would it be alright if I added them to the template? Frozen Fennec 20:09, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Might wanna ask SnorlaxMonster about this. Glitches are not my department. --ケンジガール 20:13, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Alright then, will do so. Thanks. Frozen Fennec 20:14, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Pikachutwo DoubleSlap

you said the thing with Pikachutwo and DoubleSlap belonged here well I added it and Dennou Zenshi removed it saying it didn't belong. Yamitora1 11:30, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

I think I've mistaken the qualifications of actions being on that page. I'm sorry. --ケンジガール 01:23, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
So there is no page for it? Yamitora1 19:23, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
I guess not. --ケンジガール 23:25, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Oh well, its not important, I just mostly got caught up in it because of the hoops i Had to jump through. I still have no idea what mewtwo's disable has to do with Pikachutwo possibly using doubleslap but I'm just going leave it. Anyway thank you. Yamitora1 19:00, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Mewtwo said he'd block the Pokemon's attacks with his psychic powers, hence Squirtlw belly floped Squirtle but it was not Body Slam, Gayrados bit Gayrados but it was not Bite and Pikachutwo slapped Pikachu but it was not DoubleSlap Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 20:06, 6 March 2012 (UTC)


Isn't Saturn's Toxicroak a shiny one ? I wanted to add this to its page, but I thought it is better to ask you first.----DJWolfy 18:37, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Read the trivia on the article. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 18:39, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Well, the species' shiny sprite is identical with its anime appearance. But if everyone says it's an alternate coloration then I must comply----DJWolfy 18:43, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, it isn't shiny. All Toxicroak shown in the anime look like his. Just an example of different coloration from games to anime. --ケンジガール 01:23, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Legend Of Thunder

Hello, I would ask your permission in order to create a page about Shinji, the Pokémon trainer from Legend Of Thunder (one of the main reasons why I'm asking is just because his name). And also if possible a page of that Raikou from special, in fact I wish I could get permission to put all the information about the universe that special (or three parts of an arc) in one place, either as a template or something more detailed.--Hikaru Wazana 20:06 - 4 March 2012 (UTC)

You don't need permission to create a character of the day. It's perfectly fine if you want to make it. --ケンジガール 01:23, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

The same is valid for Raikou??I mean, he is main focus of special and have a large role here.--Hikaru Wazana 03:11 - 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I do not see That Pokémon already has its own page.--Hikaru Wazana 04:41 - 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Re Lectures, ect.

I'm just wondering why we can't add appearances in Lectures, ect to the Pokémon anime sections? They are still appearances in the anime, and our coverage of some of these areas could be better. As long as it is made clear they are not actual episodes of the anime, and we don't include stock footage appearances, I don't see why it would be a problem? Or another idea I had was that the lectures and (possibly) the WTP could get a template like the Pokedex entries do?

I may not be able to reply since I'm going to be in Sweden until Thursday (at the earliest), but I'll try and reply to you as soon as I can. XVuvuzela2010X 20:24, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

It's not that I have a problem with it. The fact is I don't want only a couple pages to have it and then all the others get ignored. If it is to be done it should be in a consistent and orderly fashion. However, I would like to talk with my peers on how it exactly could be done. --ケンジガール 23:25, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
I use Special:WhatLinksHere to find what episodes link to the Pokémon, increase the results shown to 1000 or more, then use a case sensitive Crtl+F search (EP, AG, ect) and open them in new tabs to make sure they're actually in it. So they could be added along with any missing episodes that way, or just add them by checking the Pokémon listed on the theme pages? XVuvuzela2010X 20:58, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
A forum topic was started on this. It appears that most of the commenters don't agree with adding it so I'm not sure if they'll be added. --ケンジガール 21:09, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Lyra's Chikorita

Should Lyra's Chikorita have an article? Lyra can have a Chikorita in the games, and in the show it's also Lyra's starter, and has battled a couple times. In fact, it even led to Dawn getting her soon-to-be Cyndaquil egg. サトシ 23:37, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

No. It only appeared twice so... --ケンジガール 23:43, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
That's almost as much airtime as Marill. And it did do something other than battling. Notability is more important, after all. サトシ 23:50, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Marill appeared in three episodes actually and did a lot more. It is also her main Pokémon and is the reason the gang met Lyra. Chikorita isn't getting an article. --ケンジガール 23:53, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Dang, why even bother? サトシ 00:49, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

So do I..

..use one of the edits per day usertags or leave them off for now? Curious as to how much I managed to get done before the new day started. That and get the rest of the redirects done hopefully in a couple hours time. :) Frozen Fennec 00:02, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Squirtle Squad

Uh, you said what I put was an opinion, but it would have to be a extremely unlikely coincidence for two shows to have complete replicas of items from each. Im just trying to say, where else would the other show have gotten it from?--×Rsrdaman× 08:50, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Because that's a common style for sunglasses and is seen in other anime? --ケンジガール 09:03, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Oh, well I've never seen them before in anything else. I had thought W-shaped long sunglasses wouldn't be very common*. And I wasn't the first person to see a connection either.--×Rsrdaman× 09:45, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Red Gyarados's thrash

The part where the Red Gyarados began to go on a rampage in the Original series, did it use the move Thrash or was it just thrashing around (the thrashing around is different than using the move, Thrash)? PattyMan 14:21, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

I think it was just thrashing around, because it was in pain. The same thing happened with all the Steel-type Pokemon on Iron Island in DP110. ^-^ (I hope you don't mind, Kenji; I recently watched this episode, so I thought it would be appropriate to answer. ^-^) Littlmiget123 20:11, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
I stumbled across the thrashing part when I was updating the article. PattyMan 20:26, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Draco Meteor article needs protected

I think the Draco Meteor article needs to be protected, the early signs of a edit war is beginning to show. Yamitora1 20:05, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

No it isn't. Me and Pokemaster97 were just removing some stuff from the trivia section. Hope you understand Yamitora1. :) Frozen Fennec 20:07, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Meant Vuvuzela2010, sorry about that. >_< Frozen Fennec 20:09, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
Oh, ok, sorry. Yamitora1 21:16, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Is the Pokémon Stadium 2 dex broke?

Where is the Stadium 2 dex entries on gen I/II Pokémon? multiple articles are missing the stadium 2 dex entry. Is the template broken? Yamitora1 02:36, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

There is no coding for Stadium 2 in the template. Looking at a few semi-random Pokemon, It looks like Stadium 2 uses the Pokedex entries from Gold. Werdnae (talk) 03:14, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
But Stadium is listed and I'm pretty sure it uses red/blue's pokedex entries. plus, in the wiki code there is a code for stadium 2 on bulbasaur's article |stadium2dex=The seed on its back is filled with nutrients. The seed grows steadily larger as its body grows.
so at some point there was a template or something for stadium 2 to show up. Yamitora1 18:28, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Actually, it can list both. When connected to Crystal, Pidgeot had entry from Gold, whilst when connected to Yellow, from Silver. Marked +-+-+ 18:41, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
And that will be why it was removed. Because it's not one entry. The code's still on the page because when templates get redesigned, we try to use the same parameters as the previous version, so that we don't get 650 broken pages until we update each one individually. We never got around to removing them after the template updated. Werdnae (talk) 18:50, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Kind of the same reason why all the moves have a hidden description in the coding right? Frozen Fennec 18:54, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
But if there is multiple entries, why not set up the box like the breeding box. IE: If you want to see the other Stadium 2 entries, just click the button to change it like people do to see what moves Pikachu could be breed with back in Gen II or III Yamitora1 18:58, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Because Stadium 2 has no unique entries. It just uses the entry of a handheld game (or even Stadium 1 I believe) depending on the version you have connected to it. There is no point adding a section to the template if all of its entries are identical to other games' (I know remakes tend to reuse old entries, but often they are minor phrasing or punctuation differences, and there are unique entries from those games too). --SnorlaxMonster 11:12, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Nurse Joy in M15

The trailer showed that Nurse Joy and Audino are in M15. I know the actual footage likely won't be in the movie, but human characters do not generally appear in trailers without appearing in the movie itself. --The Great Butler 01:38, 14 March 2012 (UTC)


James' Pokémon page is shown as James's Pokémon. Since this is a grammatical mistake (everything that ends in s and must show possession it gets an ' at the end, while the "s"less ones just get an s at the end) then shouldn't it be replaced with James' Pokémon ?----DJWolfy 19:40, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

From what I've seen, different gramatical schools vary on that point. Some say James' is better, others say James's is right. We're using the latter because it's less ambiguous (The former could also mean Pokemon belonging to more than one "Jame"). Werdnae (talk) 20:21, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Well technically s' would be correct, but I did saw once that s's is correct when it comes to Personal Names. Anyway, thanks for answering my inquire.----DJWolfy 20:24, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Major vs. Minor Apperances

I have a question regarding the classification of tournament trainer's Pokémon. Would Pokémon who battle against major characters (ex. Edmonds's Seismitoad) and Bakki's and co.'s Pokémon be classified as a major appearance? I'm conflicted on deciding where to put them under. Reply when you can :) --Pokemaster97 22:45, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

I've never been sure on these. It depends on how much they did. I'd like Simisage and Simipour to be in major of course since it's their debuts. --ケンジガール 22:52, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for your imput. --Pokemaster97 22:54, 15 March 2012 (UTC)


I've seen many Pokémon which appeared normal in the movies and they don't have their appearances in their section for that movie. So without further adieu I would like to start adding apearances from every movie if that is ok with you.----DJWolfy 08:07, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Sure. --ケンジガール 22:18, 17 March 2012 (UTC)


I respect your adminship but I think that adding him to the template was a little silly of you. It's jumping the gun. The template is for notable recurring characters. So far we should treat Masaomi as a one-arc character (like Holly, who was pretty important in the Hearthome Tournament arc but never appeared again). --Maxim 10:16, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Please don't compare Masaomi to Holly. Masaomi was the former champion of the Donamite as is being portrayed as the main obstacle for the regular characters. Holly was acting as an add-on for Brock and was not a stand out character, being easily overshadowed by Paul and Conway. I'm treating him as I did Luke, who was the main guest character for the Club Battle.
I would appreciate if you wouldn't say my decisions are "silly". I understand what I'm doing. I realize that there is a high chance Masaomi will never return. As I said before with Luke, I don't put them there because I believe they will return in a future episode. They are important characters to the anime. --ケンジガール 22:12, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
He can't be important if he never reappears. Being former Donnamite winner doesn't make him more important than Jon Dickson. Not to mention that Don Tournaments are very minor stuff compared to the Pokemon League. He may be the hero of this arc but in the context of the entire anime he's totally meaningless. --Maxim 22:32, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
What about Lyra and Khoury then? They never appeared again so does that mean they are unimportant now? And are you really comparing Masaomi to Jon Dickson, a character who appeared briefly in one episode with no speaking lines? And the tournaments are important events to the anime as far as I'm concerned. Not as important as game events of course but they are pretty important. --ケンジガール 22:38, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Trip's Conkeldurr Mainspacing

FinnishPokéFan92 has generously added the move images to the template on my Trip's Conkeldurr page, so I don't think there's anything more left to add. Do you think it's finished and can be mainspaced now, or would you rather wait until the next episode airs so Bulk Up and Rock Tomb can be added to the move template first? --The Great Butler 22:49, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. Let's wait for that airing first. --ケンジガール 22:55, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Previous Voice Actors

Is it really practical to assume that just because a VA played a certain Pokémon in the past that they voice every future appearance of that Pokémon? I'm most bothered by the fact that I see Rachel Lillis for example being credited for Pokémon in DP episodes. Unless they dig up old sound files of them how is this possible? I don't think they come back to voice minor Pokémon roles. What do you think about this? --Pokemaster97 01:35, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Any particular roles you are bothered with? --ケンジガール 01:44, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Roles like Sunflora and the Vaporeon on Ursula's page (the latter was corrected). --Pokemaster97 01:55, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Yeah... If we don't know, we shouldn't list it. Besides, I listened to the episode and they don't really sound like Lillis. --ケンジガール 02:02, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Okay...then how do we know Kayzie did Vaporeon? It hasn't been confirmed as her. And Rachel is the only VA that has played Vaporeon and Sunflora. It's not like I'm saying Eric Stuart is still Squirtle from the archive. Rachael actually retured as Maylene and Sunflora. Maybe we shouldn't list either VA if we don't have conformation. サトシ 23:40, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, but do we have evidence that can confirm that she came back to voice Sunflora? It seems silly for her to just come back for a very minor Pokémon role..... --Pokemaster97 23:44, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
I guess she mostly came back for Maylene, but we do say on the article:
However, beginning with Lost Leader Strategy, fans noticed that Rachael Lillis had returned to voice Maylene and later Sunflora and Shinx.
I'm not trying to contradict what you just said, but we may need to fix some of these things. サトシ 23:53, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Anime Trainer classes

I have a question... Should Pokémon watcher and Pokémon stylist be written in capital like Pokémon Connoisseur? --Mikuri 02:53, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

In my opinion, they should be. I did have a plan to move them but I'm not sure if I have full clearance to do that yet. --ケンジガール 03:11, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for answering. --Mikuri 03:20, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Blastoffs and Motto

Did you not read the thread? I was told it was agreed upon. The three admins in the thread deemed it unnotable as trivia, especially by my two points. Maybe if you wouldnt keep me out of the discussion of my own topic I couldve been better informed--SandmanDP 05:20, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

I read the last thread where the Deputy EiC said the staff would decide before the thread was closed. No clear answer was given. --ケンジガール 05:23, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

It said it was decided. He said the ideas were in place. Not that they were being negotiated--SandmanDP 05:25, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

"We've got some ideas about how to handle Team Rocket blasting off (or not, as the case may be). Thread closed." Directly quoted from the dark lord trombonator. This does not imply at all that a decision was reached. --ケンジガール 05:28, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
If you noticed, there was an intrusion in the thread that took it on a crash course of doom. I tried corraling it back in but I was mugged and beaten for no reason whatsoever then given infractions for defense while a personal attack was given a slap on the wrist. If you don't mind, I'd like the thread reopened with your input as a reply--SandmanDP 05:33, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
The thread was closed in direct response to your rule breaking actions, in spite of the warnings given. The other user ceased his attacks after getting warned, while you did not, which is why the thread was closed. The thread will not be reopened. The staff will discuss the matter and reach a decision. Until that decision is reached and announced, you will not touch the trivia points or categories. Full stop. End of story. This course of action has beed discussed and agreed upon by multiple members of staff, including three editorial board members. Werdnae (talk) 05:44, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
Haha, really cute Kuki. You got me for a while. Bye bye now. --ケンジガール 05:52, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


The last part of the name. I'd like to think that it's a typo, what about you?--ForceFire 14:13, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm really not sure. --ケンジガール 00:12, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Volkner's Luxray

Since it's not on your list of pages decided to be non-notable, I figured it was best to run this past you first before deleting it. User:Pawel10s/Volkner's Luxray. --SnorlaxMonster 08:03, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

dare da

The Japanese name of Who's That Pokémon? is still Dare da? on all episodes ? Or it changes its name from a certain episode ?----DJWolfy 14:14, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

It's Dare da EP001-EP191, BW061-present and Pocket Monsters TV from EP192-EP274. --ケンジガール 22:28, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
So if I want to add the picture's description, it will be Pocket Monsters TV instead of Dare da? ?----DJWolfy 18:29, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
It should be "Who's That Pokémon" because that's what they say. --ケンジガール 23:52, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Well, I was refering to the japanese version.----DJWolfy 04:45, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
I know. And they do say "Who's That Pokémon" in a synthesized voice. But, perhaps it would be better to put Pocket Monsters TV. I don't know about the tt though. --ケンジガール 07:22, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Since KG had a chance to respond, I thought I'd pop in and say we've got a few Pocket Monster TV images that already follow a format. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 07:33, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
So, if one puts both who's that Pokémon pictures from japan and us in any episode between 192-274 then the US will be named Who's That while the Japan will be PM TV ?----DJWolfy 14:18, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

(reset) Pocket Monster TV is PM TV and Who's That Pokémon is WTP. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 20:48, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

No, what I meant was... let me give you an example. So if one puts two pictures in let's say EP186 which is Teddiursa in Japan and Abra in USA. Then, under Teddiursa will be Dare da? while under Abra's will be Who's That Pokémon? This is for WTP both in USA and Japan.
Now, let's take EP203 where Smochum is in Japan and Murkrow is in USA. Then under Murkrow's picture will be Who's That Pokémon? while under Smochum's picture will be Pocket Monster TV, Who's That Pokémon? or Pocket Monsters TV ?

----DJWolfy 10:06, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

I say go with Pocket Monster TV, since we use "Trainer's Choice" as a caption for those eyecatches. That fine with you, KG? Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 10:58, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


Delete it please.--ForceFire 08:03, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Volkner's Raichu

Is Volkner's Raichu notable enough for its own article? Just curious. サトシ 00:05, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

No. --ケンジガール 00:13, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Oh. サトシ 00:19, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Santa's Delibird's notability

I added a questionable notability template on Santa's Delibird around last month. You might want to check out if the article actually earned its notability status. PattyMan 00:25, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Generation III overworld sprites.

Should be they 32x32 or 16x16 (Gen I and II are 16x16)? Since I am looking at the games and uploading OD sprites of characters in this template, though I can't do anything that's Generation IV or V. Marked +-+-+ 10:32, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Gen III overworld sprites should be 32x32. --ケンジガール 10:36, 5 April 2012 (UTC)


Are we allowed to use screenshots from ? I mean, to use them for showing errors and such in the anime ? ----DJWolfy 17:56, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, Filb is one of our affiliates and it is okay to use Filb's screenshots. But before uploading, please keep it in mind that the images must be in "png" extension, not in jpg. ♫♪ エイディニズ ♪♫ 19:01, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
I know, I know, it's not the first time I upload. But that's the least important part since all the screenshots are very small and I can't find a way to resize them without ruining the picture's quality. Seems I have to resume making own screenshots as before.----DJWolfy 19:04, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
If those images are very necessary, then feel free to upload them for now. We can always replace them later on. ♫♪ エイディニズ ♪♫ 19:08, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Well, I prefer taking a better quality screenshot rather than using blurry ones. Isn't there a way to resize them in a more qualitative way ?----DJWolfy 19:15, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Use a photo-editing software like photoshop or gimp to improve their quality. Pokégeek 19:21, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Unfortunately, no. Resizing (increasing the resolution, to be more specific) an image usually causes the pixels to distort. I have tried a lot of different editing softwares as well but no luck. ♫♪ エイディニズ ♪♫ 19:23, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

:reset: Yeah, the same here. Can't the screenshots be obtained from the administrator or someone who is in charge*?

I can try to upload it for you, if possible. On a side note, if you have any issues related to images then Archives would be the best place to go. Feel free to drop a message on any of the active staff members' talk page, if anything comes up. Hopefully, it will be resolved soon. As far as Archives' in charge is concerned, it's Kogoro. ♫♪ エイディニズ ♪♫ 19:45, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
No, what I meant is if there is an administrator on Filb who has the original screenshots and is acquainted with using english.----DJWolfy 19:52, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, I misunderstood it. I am afraid it is not possible. ♫♪ エイディニズ ♪♫ 19:54, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
May I ask why ? Since we're affiliated, then there should be no problem.----DJWolfy 19:56, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
In a nutshell, lack of proper communication is one of the problems. Besides, most of the staff members (here as well as there) have personal stuff to deal with, besides looking after the site. So, it is not easy to stay in touch with each other. ♫♪ エイディニズ ♪♫ 20:05, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Well, if you would tell me of anyone who's in charge there I could use some social skills and result in a super effective move.----DJWolfy 20:34, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure where this conversation was going. But those on the staff have their own means of getting high quality screenshots. Filb is to be used when those are not available at the moment. Though, having the files big is not a strict rule. It's just more preferred. --ケンジガール 22:19, 5 April 2012 (UTC)


So based on the fact that you think Bobby is voiced by Jamie, where do you think Lucien fits in? He has to go somewhere.

Additional cast credits:
Carter Cathcart
Lucien Dodge
Darren Dunstan
Eli James
Michele Knotz
Lisa Ortiz
Kayzie Rogers
Alyson Rosenfeld
Sean Schemmel
Erica Schroeder
Marc Thompson
Tom Wayland
Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 22:24, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

I believe that Darren Dunstan actually voiced Bobby not Jamie. And that Lucien just voiced the other male trainer. The one who was with the girl. (DTJMan 00:01, 8 April 2012 (UTC))

I am awaiting official confirmation. --ケンジガール 00:02, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

BW077 and BW078

There has been confirmation that the two upcoming episodes are - BW077: Flaming Memories! Tepig VS Emboar!! BW078: Brycen Appears! The Holy Mountain of Volcarona!!

Two reliable sources from Serebii have confirmed this. G50 06:21, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Where is the Japanese text for BW077? --ケンジガール 06:39, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Serebii should not be a source for those episode titles. PattyMan 04:24, 9 April 2012 (UTC)


Do we need all the images for Pokémon Trainer's Choice on both their respective pages and on its own page ?----DJWolfy 07:41, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes. --ケンジガール 10:14, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
How should the format be ? The shot with the answer or the show with the question ?----DJWolfy 23:28, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
I guess the question...? --ケンジガール 00:16, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
I'd say the question since it shows all the choices.--ForceFire 02:08, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
Ok, so unlike WTP which is for answers, PTC will be for questions. Well, I'll stick with questions then. Thanks !----DJWolfy 08:11, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

On the topic of Pokémon Trainer's Choice, can I add my table to the article? Just thought I get permission first before doing anything.--ForceFire 08:52, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Sure. --ケンジガール 10:53, 14 April 2012 (UTC)


If you're free, can you please come on AIM for a few mins? ♫♪ エイディニズ ♪♫ 11:43, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

You got me after I went to bed. If you still need to talk to me, reply back. --ケンジガール 03:52, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
You there? ♫♪ エイディニズ ♪♫ 04:47, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

User:Force Fire/Masaomi's Throh

I've made a copy/pasted draft. Just though you'd want to take a look.--ForceFire 13:45, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Georgia's Bisharp

Please take the Georgia's Bisharp article into consideration. I mean, it has a respectable amount of info, and certainly more than Nando's Roserade. Chowolun 19:10, 10 April 2012 (UTC) User:Lucario985

Scratch that, more info's been added, my bad! But still, take into consideration. Chowolun 19:11, 10 April 2012 (UTC) User:Lucario985

I'm begging you! I've checked the notability requirements and I'm pretty sure it conforms. Chowolun 01:31, 13 April 2012 (UTC) User:Lucario985

Thought on the Team Rocket template...

I've been bugged for a while about the mess of names jumbled up on the bottom of the "Members of Team Rocket" template, so I decided to work up a test for a potential revision on my userspace to try and make the list a bit better organized. What do you think? If I'm wasting my time, just go ahead and delete the page, it doesn't matter too much. --The Great Butler 05:09, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

I prefer MisterE13's layout. --SnorlaxMonster 05:54, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Looking at that, I like it too. I'd still suggest separating "Elite Officers" into their own header, though - the likes of Vicious, Pierce, Domino and Miyamoto fit more with themselves than the others they're grouped into while in the current tag, imo. --The Great Butler 07:34, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Pokémon protection

Considering it has been leaked that Psyduck, Eevee Riolu, to name a few, are in B2W2, do their respective pages need to be protected?--ForceFire 05:22, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


I thought about it and I wanted to ask you, do statues of Pokémon count as appearances ? I mean, I don't think they're really notable since it's not a physical appearance nor even as notable as a flashback or at least a silhoutte. I'm note sure about photos or posters either.----DJWolfy 05:55, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Still waiting for an answer... ----DJWolfy 12:34, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Statues don't count but pictures do. They just don't count for debuts and should nto be added to Pokémon pages. - unsigned comment from Kenji-girl (talkcontribs)
Statues or pictures don't count for debuts ?----DJWolfy 13:49, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Pikachu's Ocean Adventure

Once I finish writing the Synopsis, should I delete the summary section of the page, or just leave it?태권도 합기도 11:11, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

I think take it out. --ケンジガール 11:59, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Stella (Unova)

I already made a userpage of her yesterday.--Den Zen 13:30, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I did search in the userspace for it but nothing came up so I thought no one had made it yet. I'll delete it right away. --ケンジガール 13:44, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


Undo revision 1647333 by Satoshi101 (talk) (Stop removing the blurbs. They are OFFICIAL.)

OK, first of all, it was speculation. Even if we know part of it, it doesn't count as a synopsis. Second of all, it was just a preview - some parts may have been left out. Third, even if we know its going to happen, we don't add it until the ep has aired, like when we knew Bianca's Pignite would evolve, but we didn't move it right away.

Now, I respect your adminship, but I don't agree with what you did. サトシ 00:55, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

It's not speculation if it's a preview that was written by an official source. It isn't meant to be a sypnosis but I temporary summary of the episode until we can get the full details of the episode. I don't see why it is any different then adding the Trainer nexto the Pokémon's name which we always do before airing, ex: Bisharp (Georgia's). Not to mention that we have been using them for many years without any incident. Why should we suddenly change now? If we are so worried about speculation before airing then we shouldn't bother making the article in the first place. The whole thing is a spoiler. --ケンジガール 02:00, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Astilbe Town

Sorry to bother you again, but should I start the article for this anime-exclusive town? サトシ 00:58, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

If you want. But it should be done properly. --ケンジガール 02:00, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


Hei Kenji, I thought about it and after studying about Pokémon in Romania, it turns out that all the Pokémon keep their English names (they even keep their voices). Should there be a page like this "List of French Pokémon names" only for Romanian? I don't think since they just keep their english names. At least shouldn't this be noted somewhere ? And they keep even their city names too.----DJWolfy 06:59, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

I really don't know. If they are the same I don't think they should get their own list. And I'm not sure where you would note it. --ケンジガール 07:10, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Then should I only note them each in their individual "In other languages" section ?----DJWolfy 07:39, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't know. We don't appear to note them when they're the same. --ケンジガール 08:09, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
I apologize for interrupting, but I want to mention that Spanish and Italian names are also not noted. Those languages also don't have their own list as they are the same as English (unlike the other languages). I suggest to put it in a page on Pokémon in Romania instead (if someone would create a page on it). --超龍對話 08:21, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
The best example would be this Names on Ash's page. All common names in different languages are put in the same column.----DJWolfy 11:52, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
While I'm not opposed to the idea, it can be distracting when we put these much languages into one box. And if we don't add all the other languages, it's rather unfair to them if we only list Romanian. --超龍對話 13:35, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes but you see, I'm the only Romanian active on this site so I pretty much can handle doing the language thing alone. Plus no one said it could be distracting since the language box can be modified to alter between Hide and Show. And also, Werdnae said it is ok to add any languages as long as it is an official translation. So no, it is not fair for other languages, because no one said the other languages couldn't be added. Afterall we all have equal rights and that's what the "other languages" box is for.----DJWolfy 14:10, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Like I said, I'm not against the idea, but we had some cases when the names were removed because they were redundant (1 2) It's granted that they were in different rows, but the admins didn't seem to mind. Also, when I mean distracting, I was referring to the language box only. It's not really distracting for the article. But if you want to add it, it's fine with me. I'm just not sure if everyone agrees with it (especially Maxim). --超龍對話 14:30, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
To me it's obvious - if a certain language translation always keeps English names, it's useless to mention it. Otherwise we would need lengthy tables listing the same names countless times. Sorry, but this is not what we strive for. Move, item, location names - fine, as long as they are legit (not fan translation), but Pokemon names will always be the same, so listing them doesn't make any sense. The only thing I would agree for would be redirecting "List of Romanian (Swedish, Finnish, Polish, Catalan, Turkish etc.) Pokemon names" to "List of English Pokemon names". But do we really need this? I think it's nothing but splitting hairs. --Maxim 14:53, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
That's racist, people should always be informed in a way or another how something taken from another language will be in the language who took it regardless if it is the same. If it is the same just put it in the same column as in the case of this. That language box was made for a reason.And I never said to be made a special page for Romanian names, you can look it up above. I just asked if it should be noted somewhere besides their language box. ----DJWolfy 15:03, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
It's not "racist". It's common sense that European languages other than French and German always use English Pokemon names. There's nothing racist about it, so stop whining. I'm from Poland myself and I have deleted cases when someone submitted "Polish" names without the need of it. --Maxim 15:25, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
I do not whine about it and needless to say that I am not interested about your whereabouts, do not take it as an offense. And no it's not common sense, not all do it. I do not wish to be rude my Bulbafriend, but you or neither can I decide what should be implemented in Bulbapedia. As I said above, if Werdnae who is the debuty EiC agreed as long as it is official, then I see no problem in adding it. I wish to end this discussion due to it being on to another person's page and it is rude to talk about something at someone's "house" when the respective host isn't present.----DJWolfy 15:48, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
However, he didn't specifically say that you can add names that are the same as the English names.--Den Zen 16:00, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Anyway, they should be added in the same column with the commons. How are people supposed to know that it's the same in that country? It's like expecting them to know that without being informed. I never said a special column should be made, just said that common translations should be put in the same column.----DJWolfy 16:06, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


Has a decision been made about if it were to be put their names in Romanian for Pokémon ? As I said, everything that is common should be put in the same column with other languages. Or should I ask Deth ?----DJWolfy 07:27, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Maybe mention it to Deth because I really don't know what to do here. Or you can make a forum topic on the Bulbawiki Forum. --ケンジガール 07:41, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't really like forums, so I'll just ask EiC.----DJWolfy 07:46, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh btw, out of topic you have a typo here "I think Satoshi Tajiri just ran out of insperation"* and here "All I have t say is Thanks for making" and "So much so that he is" when describing tracey, and lastly here "parts the the movies". I'm not stalking, just looked up a bit out of curiosity.----DJWolfy 11:37, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Synopsis Question

Is it possible, with Synopsi that I personally write and put on Bulbapedia, to also give the same ones to Serebii to use on his site, or do I have to have special permission or something to be allowed to do that? 태권도 합기도 09:04, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

If you wrote them all yourself then it's okay. Just make sure you mention in the edit summary box when you write future synopses that you wrote it so that we don't get accused of stealing from them. You should also inform the webmaster over there that you also submit them to Bulbapedia. --ケンジガール 09:42, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


Is vandalizing articles and adding false information. I'm pretty sure Feebass can't learn Shadow Force, Roar of Time, or Spacial Rend... Sneaking from page to page... It's the page-editing purple ghost... Gengarzilla! 15:43, 19 April 2012 (UTC)


Kenji you said that photos or whatever isn't a physical appearance of the real thing don't count as appearances right ? Because it's written on the List of Pokémon by anime debut that Omanyte has its debut in EP026 even though it appeared in a photo. I thought I should tell you first if it should be removed or not.----DJWolfy 20:00, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Remove it. --ケンジガール 20:09, 21 April 2012 (UTC)


I'm a bit confused... It says on Dragonair's page that (apart from the banned episode) it first appeared in EP251... but that wouldn't be true unless it's its anime debut since it appeared first in PK04. Also on List of Pokémon by anime debut it says that it made its debut in M02, but I looked on M02's page, couldn't find Dragonair written anywhere neither on its on page or on Serebii pics. But still about its anime debut... it actually first appeared in another episode (I think, I've seen it in the opening theme jumping out of the water when Ash was riding Lapras, and since the opening theme is made up of anime scenes then it should have been somewhere in the Orange Islands since that was when he had Lapras). It also appeared in EP216 so that makes two earlier appearances... ----DJWolfy 18:58, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Dragonair never appeared in the OI saga, only a silhouette of one in Misty's fantasy which I don't think counts. It should be corrected to which ever is true. That list should mark the first physical appearance. I haven't seen the Johto episodes in a while so I can't tell you for sure. --ケンジガール 23:27, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Well since the Pokémon Theme cleary shows Dragonair coming out of water when Ash was riding his Lapras then it must have been in the OI, when else was he riding Lapras ?* Well it made a comeback in Lapras of Luxury but that was after EP251.----DJWolfy 12:05, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
The dub theme is actual a mix of the original Japanese theme and episode scenes. The scene you're describing is from the original Japanese theme which is not related to any episodes.--ForceFire 12:22, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Hm... I'm sure the scene seems awfully familiar, from some episode... but I guess that my mind is playing me tricks. I should check the M02 anyway and EP216.----DJWolfy 12:34, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
How about PK04 anyway ? It still aired earlier than EP251.----DJWolfy 12:36, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Oh wait, it says PK04 it was featured as a short along with M02... maybe that's why on the List debut Dragonair has its debut in M02... but still that isn't true since PK04 isn't actually part of M02.----DJWolfy 12:37, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Oh yeah, there was a Dragonair in that. I think it should mark that as first appearance for the dub then, not M02. --ケンジガール 19:49, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

It not made a single appearance in M02 at all, but Force fixed it anyway.----DJWolfy 19:58, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

A question

do you know the name of the cooking appliance that Japanese chefs use to cook directly on, where the surface is flat and is an actual burner that food cooks on top of? (it pertains to Pokémon Best Wishes episode that I am writing a Synopsis for). 태권도 합기도 23:33, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

This? --ケンジガール 23:42, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Yes, thank you. 태권도 합기도 23:45, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
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