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Trivia

Trivia section currently states: "Ghost and Psychic are the only two types that are weak to the same types: Ghost and Dark. " I could understand that in two ways, and both are wrong (I guess, that's why I try to discuss it here) 1 - They are the only types who share all their weaknesses. That would be wrong, since Psychic is weak to Bug, and Ghost is not. 2 - They are the only two types who share more than one weakness. Also wrong, since, for instance, Ground and Rock are weak against Grass and Water. If I misunderstood it, please let me know. Or if anyone agrees, I'd be glad to see I'm not useless ;) Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp) 22:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

it didn't say that they share all the same weaknesses UltamateCharizard 22:50, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Ok, but it says they are the only two types that are weak to the same types. So, they aren't the only because there are others who share same weaknesses Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp) 22:55, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
That trivia, and some other icky ones, have been removed now. — THE TROM — 23:02, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

About immunities:

  • Disregarding abilities, Drifloon, Drifblim, Sableye and Spiritomb are the only Pokémon so far to be immune to three types...

Also, counting abilities, another Ghost type, Shedinja has the most immunities (12). Please add this with better words...--ЫъГЬ 12:32, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Neutrality

I am questioning the neutrality of the characteristics section. It is very biased towards ghost types. I would add the template, but I am... unskilled. Sidnoea 01:33, 9 August 2009 (UTC)


Type Combo

I think it should be worth noting that if a Normal/Ghost type is ever introduced, it would be the only Pokémon immune to both it's types. - unsigned comment from Chaos Theory (talk • contribs)

There isn't one though, and writing hypothetically opens up so many cans of worms. Until a Normal/Ghost Pokémon is created, you can keep that thought in your head. —darklordtrom 23:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Quick Question

I could have sworn playing RBY that Psychic moves do 2x damage on Ghost Pokemon. Am I completely misguided here? --Crystal Shards 05:59, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

They do, but only because all Ghost-types in gen I were part Poison-type. The Ghost type itself takes neutral damage from Psychic type attacks. Werdnae (talk) 08:53, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Ghost in G1

Should it be mentioned that even if Ghost-type had been effective against Psychic-type in Generation 1, it would've been largely academic because the only Ghost-type attack that was affected by types, Lick, was very weak, and since all Ghost-type Pokémon in G1 were dual-typed Poison and thus weak to Psychic attacks, using a Ghost Pokémon against a Psychic Pokémon would've been a bad idea anyway? Shigmiya64 12:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Nope. Too nitpicky. R.A. Hunter Blade 12:45, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
I think it's an interesting tidbit, and isn't that the point of the Trivia section? Certainly more interesting, IMO, than Torchic being the only Fire-type starter whose English name doesn't start with C. Shigmiya64 12:04, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
So you're saying that using a Gengar against an Exeggcute would be a bad idea? Not all of it is based on type. Stats are also a variable in a battle. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 12:14, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
It's still too nitpicky. Because it's coming at a stance of the view of the modern type effectiveness. If the only games we had were R/B/Y right now, nobody would even know why that would have mattered at all. And it really doesn't. R.A. Hunter Blade 12:43, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Weak to Psychic?

This page says that Ghosts were weak to Psychic in Generation I. The Type chart page says otherwise (NOTE: look at the second type chart; the first is only valid for later generations). Of course, all of the Ghosts in the first gen actually were, in fact, weak to Psychic, but that's at least partially because they were all also Poison-types (if this page is true, they'd have had a double-weakness and have taken 4x damage in the first gen.) Which page is correct? --HeroicJay 10:21, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

What's wrong with it?

I'm sorry I don't know how to use the image from this website. And I'm sorry for my poor English.--847418742 11:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

File:Wrongwithghost.jpg

Fixed your image link. Use [[File:'''name of file here''']] next time.
I got rid of the rowspan (Giratina spanning two rows) because table sorting (the sort_none.gif icon) gets broken. ~ Ribose · talk · cntr · 17:34, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Immunities

I really believe that should be noted the fact that ghost type Pokémon are the Pokemon with most immunities among all kinds, as well most of ghost type Pokemon (being actually 18 from 27) having 3 immunities, and shedinja's case: the only Pokemon with 12 immunities. - unsigned comment from Pippilong (talk • contribs)

I would like do add this line, can I add?

Ghost-type Pokémon such as Dusknoir and Cofagrigus are good to use as defensive Pokémon, because of their high defenses and ability to inflict status ailments and use support moves. However, their resistances are of little use: Poison and Bug are types rarely used offensively, and Dark is very commonly used offensively. But is quite useful to be immune to Fighting and Normal-type attacks. Moreover, it's very common for Ghost-type Pokémon to be immune to Ground, due to Levitate. This gives them immunity to three of the most powerful types offensively.

I don't like how the Defense section only "talks" about the Ghost/Dark combination and not about only the Ghost type. Dark Fallen Angel (talk) 12:54, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Normal is actually one of the worst types offensively, but other than that it is fine.--電禅Den Zen 13:03, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm actually going to disagree here. I wouldn't add it. Reason being, Bulbapedia is not a strategy guide. We try to avoid editorial comments on how specific Pokémon should be used, etc., because that falls to Smogon and others. Also, in the future, feel free to simply add a line; if we don't like it, we'll remove it. --P o L i 13:05, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
One more comment. You'll notice that what already exists there in the Offense and Defense sections is pure fact. This addition would be a breach of that. Part of the reason it doesn't talk much about the Ghost type is because most of what you can say about it that isn't obvious is subjective. --P o L i 13:07, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
I understand, I won't add this. Dark Fallen Angel (talk) 13:14, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

PBR

Why doesn't Ghost-type moves affect Psychic-type Pokémon in PBR? --PenblooeR 23:37, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

What Ghost-type move was used and what Pokémon was the target? What move did the target Pokemon use that turn? Werdnae (talk) 08:01, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Book with wrong information?

I have a poster that came from a handbook on ghost types, and it erroneously states that the Gastly line is pure ghost type. The poster is hung up on my wall but I can't find the book. Does anybody know which book it came from? Because I feel like that'd be a good thing to add to the trivia. I don't know, but if I can find the book I'll post its name. --Maddiesapphire (talk) 20:19, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Most important Trivia ever

Ghost is the only type which hasn't a first Evolution who evolves further at or above a Level.

I'm surprised you didn't notice this,it' more worthy like than other sentences.Rajjoaby (talk) 08:24, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Maybe notable... maybe. The only Fighting-type who are all Fighting-type on all 3 stages evolve via level and then trade (Machop and Timburr families), while the only two to level up for every stage are the Fire starters which are initially a pure Fire-type. All other types don't have that problem, there is at least one family who evolves twice via level and has that type through all 3 stages (obviously discounting the mentioned above Ghost-type). Marked +-+-+ (talk) 09:20, 4 May 2013 (UTC) PS. Normal - Pidgey; Pidove; Starly... Fighting - you know, Flying - many Normal/Flying which also account for the Normal-type part... Poison - Bulbasaur, Ground - Sandile, Rock - Aron, Bug - Caterpie, Weedle... Ghost - nope, as you pointed out, Steel - Klink, Fire/Water/Grass - starters, Electric - Mareep, Psychic - Solosis, Ice - Vanillite, Dragon - Dratini, Gible, Salamence... Dark - Deino. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 09:25, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

The first Evolution fire-fighting Starters are at least secondary Fighting,that's sufficiently,it's not necessary that the whole family is that type,my thoughts aren't family based.My point is that NOT ANY Ghost type(whether pure,primary or secondary) First Evolution evolves by Level.Rajjoaby (talk) 11:05, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Greater than 80 base power?

I don't understand why this is notable trivia, as this is something that a person can plainly see on their own. Slkr95 (talk) 04:54, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Trivia Notice

Some trivia I came up with.

All dual-type with Ghost (and their evolutionary line) are unique. For example, Rotom is the only Ghost/Electric-type. Or Gastly/Haunter/Gengar are the only Ghost/Poison-type.

Nutter Butter (talk) 17:40, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Not true. Spiritomb and Sableye. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 18:20, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Oh. I thought that it counts as different since one's dark-ghost and the other's ghost-dark. Nutter Butter (talk) 02:21, 3 August 2013 (UTC)


Ghost/Dark

Is now weak to fairy, on account of Fairy being neutral against ghost and super effective on dark.Aquaslash (talk) 08:39, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Trivia again

"There are no pure Ghost-type Pokémon that evolve into a dual-type Pokémon."

Is there any point in noting this? Ghost isn't the only type this happens with, at least not the way it's worded right now. There's not really anything notable about it. Ikarishipper900 (talk) 16:14, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Clarify

This sentence is really unclear. It seems interesting, would someone clarify it? It would help to take the passive verbs; I would do it myself but I'm not sure what it means.

"Fairy and Ghost-type moves are also a similar proportion, as one of the two types resisted by Ghost is weak against Fairy-type moves, and the other no longer resists Ghost-type moves as of Generation VI, so only two Pokémon, both from the same evolutionary line, currently resist said combination."

Vileplume127 (talk) 01:07, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

It's talking about the coverage of a combination of Fairy and Ghost moves. A big part of the sentence was completely unnecessary, so I trimmed it and clarified what was left. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 03:53, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

So are we ignoring Hoopa until it's official release?

Since it is doubly weak to Ghost, yet the trivia says no Pokemon is doubly weak without Trick-Or-Treat --Shadowater (talk) 23:01, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Hoopa hasn't been officially released yet, so no, we're not mentioning it.--ForceFire 00:08, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

ghost immunity trivia

I think something good for ghost trivia would be the reason that ghost are able to immune to Normal and Fighting types is from ghost are able to make them selves intangable and orginally all normal and fighting type moves were orginally physical and they are based off tangible creatures that can be possed.

This is my theory for why and also here is a site to [1] i hope you can put it in the trivia thanks.--Pokemonfansuper (talk) 17:11, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

I think the only trivia we can take from that would be that the Ghost Type has more immunities than any other type. (Other types have 1 or 0 while ghost has 2)--Ditto51/Tom (My Talk Page) 20:48, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
I think Pokemonfansuper means to add something like an "origin" to explain the reasoning of type match-ups. It could be useful to type articles since most people have no idea why Fairy is weak to Steel (iron wards off malevolent fairies). We would just have to be careful not to provide opinion as fact. —TheVeryBest 21:50, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
I think those sort of trivia would be acceptable if it were obscured (such as Fairy being weak to Steel). Ghost being immune to Normal and Fighting should be self evident, along with Water>Fire, Fire>Ice etc.. But then again, it could get very subjective as everyone has there own theory on why X weak against Y.--ForceFire 23:38, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Trivia

In the Trivia section it states Gen V has the most Ghosts but Gen VI has 10 when you consider Megalution. Darre (talk) 20:55, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

  • And the same is also true for Gen IV, having 14 before the Rotom retyping Darre (talk) 21:07, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Mega Evolution and form changes aren't different Pokémon, so they don't count if their previous form is already part of the type. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 21:37, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Pokemon number

It lists 39 Pokemon on the page, but starts that there are 35 Ghost type. Even if you don't count forms and megas the number is still wrong. Same problem with Ice type.

AonDuine (talk) 00:27, 17 October 2015 (UTC)AonDuine

Copying the name column and removing the Megas:
  1. Misdreavus
  2. Shuppet
  3. Banette
  4. Duskull
  5. Dusclops
  6. Mismagius
  7. Dusknoir
  8. Yamask
  9. Cofagrigus
  10. Gastly
  11. Haunter
  12. Gengar
  13. Drifloon
  14. Drifblim
  15. Spiritomb
  16. Giratina
  17. Litwick
  18. Lampent
  19. Chandelure
  20. Phantump
  21. Trevenant
  22. Pumpkaboo
  23. Gourgeist
  24. Shedinja
  25. Sableye
  26. Froslass
  27. Rotom
  28. Frillish
  29. Jellicent
  30. Golett
  31. Golurk
  32. Honedge
  33. Doublade
  34. Aegislash
  35. Hoopa
...Are you counting the Pokestar Studio opponenet? (If so, don't.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:59, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

"There are nine Ghost-type Pokémon with unique type combinations—more than any other type."

There are nine Ghost-type Pokémon with unique type combinations—more than any other type.

I'm pretty sure this is true. I'm counting:

1. Gastly, Haunter, Gengar 2. Giratina 3. Mimikyu 4. Shedinja 5. Froslass 6. Rotom 7. Frillish & Jellicent 8. Honedge, Doublade & Aegislash 9. Marshadow

Unfortunately, I'm still under a trivia ban. Unowninator (talk) 07:47, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Those aren't all individual Pokemon, three of those are evolutionary families. If evolutionary families are what's being counted, Ice has more unique type combinations than Ghost, at 10.
1. Sandshrew, Sandslash 2. Ninetales 3. Swinub, Piloswine, Mamoswine 4. Sneasel, Weavile 5. Snowver, Abomasnow 6. Frosslass 7. Kyurem 8. Rotom 9. Amaura, Aurorus 10. Crabominable
And if individual Pokemon are being counted, it ties Dragon at 6.
1. Mega Altaria 2. Dialga 3. Giratina 4. Kyurem 5. Dragalge 6. Drampa
In neither of these scenarios does Ghost have the most unique type combinations. Skyarrow (talk) 09:01, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Those in the same evolutionary line do not discount a unique type combination. Evolutionary families are counted as one.--ForceFire 10:03, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Yes, but even if evolutionary families are being counted as a single Pokemon, Ghost doesn't have the most unique type combinations, as its 9 is fewer than Ice's 10. Skyarrow (talk) 10:11, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, misread your comment. The trivia was just outdated. I've moved the trivia to the Ice.--ForceFire 10:12, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Literal Ghost

Should the literal Ghost be added to this page? It may not have the ghost type, but it at least deserves a mention somewhere on the page. Iml908 (talk) 01:32, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Preeeeeety sure that ghosts are weak to dark types

Pretty sure several pieces of info on this page are wrong Edit: I was just confused by the diagram. - unsigned comment from Longtime4321 (talk • contribs)

Hello! Yes, what you said is correct; can you point to what part of this page in which it says otherwise? ht14 04:32, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
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