Talk:Legendary giants

Weird Mother 3 connection?

Does anyoen think that the Regi Trio look very similar to the Barrier Trio from Mother 3? They're a trio of 3 golems with dots for eyes. I'm not sure where to even discuss this, as it would be Mother 3 paying homage to Pokemon. But it's such a weird thing to make an homage to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj50eK4Qcx8

Flintlock (talk) 08:53, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Are they really called that? I've only heard them referred to as "The regis"-Birdboy2000

They are golems, that's correct. evkl 03:10, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I dunno, I call them Gits. Each one of thier nicknames on my Sapphire has a profanity because of how stressed I got trying to capture them. - Ferret

The beings they were designed to resemble were the mythical Golems, which have little relation to Golem. evkl 10:33, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I've heard them referred to as the Llegendary Trashcans and the Regis. surskitty 10:35, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

For the sake of argument, I'll mention now that rex and regis are both singular in Latin. (However, rex is nominative, regis is genitive.) The nominative plural is reges. (If you've ever wondered why the plural and possessive as so similar in English, well, same thing applies here. Blame the Proto-Indo-Europeans.) - 振霖_T 13:32, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

About Area Leader Axley

Hey, that was a brilliant observation. I think it's possible that Flygon is there because one of its pre-evolved forms can learn Dig by leveling up. Remember Dig is also needed in the Sealed Chamber. --Johans 16:45, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Rephrasing

The line "Unlike previous trios, the golems share much more similar names, at the cost of having their types be estranged from the standard..." is somewhat odd. How does having similar names cost them their potential types? How is Regifire and Regilectricity hard to do? Besides, the Regis are golems. Golems are constructs of materials by humans and somehow magically animated. I can't see anyone stacking fire (well, Diablo II did) or electricity into a golem... rock, ice and steel are much more conventional building blocks, as each are used in the construction of buildings. The lake trio doesn't fall under the standard types for trios either, but they don't have any cost associated with their names. I just find it wierd is all... --ZellMurasame 04:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, they were pretty much the first trio to have their types not the (then) standard Fire/Electric/Water-Ice, and the first trio whose names were similar. In fact... they're the only trio to do that. It's not the fact that their names cost them their types, it's just that their names are more similar, however, unlike the others, their types aren't the Gen I/II pattern. TTEchidna^G_SDS! 11:16, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Which means that the phrasing of sentence needs to be revised, since there is no direct correlation between the two facts; both are simply examples of diverging from previous trios. --Unown Lord 11:46, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Well Articuno, Zapdos and Moltres are similar names; they each contain a Latin whole number in sequence, corresponding to its order in the Pokédex. I guess you can't really say they diverge from the norm since they were the originals, but the name and type differences of the Regis is really just a reference to their being golems, not one as a result of the other. I just think this line needs to be rewritten, but I'm not sure how to do so without just saying something to the effect of "Unlike the previous trios, the golems share more similar names and their types diverge from the standard..." --ZellMurasame 15:22, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I have already rewritten it as follows: "Unlike previous trios, the golems share much more similar names; additionally, their types are estranged from the standard Fire, Water/Ice and Electric trio." --Unown Lord 15:43, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Their types diverge from the standard? The birds are ice, electric and fire. The beasts types diverge 33% from the "standard" only using electric and fire again. Regis have 66% different types used, only repeating ice. Where is the standard there? I only see a standard of changing a type or 2 as to get different combinations every generation instead of using the same three types over and over. Saiph charon 21:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Besides they probably are that type to be more similar to the real golems. Both are made out of durable, hard, common materials.Shadow1337 22:08, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

regigigas

in regigigas' pokedex entry, it states that it is made from rocks, ice, and magma! i don't see registeel being made out of magma!- unsigned comment from vik0z0z (talk • contribs)

Who said anything about involving the other regis in that?--freezingCOLD _{(page, talk)} 00:13, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

And doesn't magma have melted metal in it? Yin Yang 16:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

about the individual chambers in RSE

Do the requirements to unlock each individual regi change between the different games? I'm replaying Ruby right now, and in order to unlock Regice, I had to wait two minutes for the chamber to open. With Registeel, I used fly not flash. And with Regirock, I had to take two steps right, two down and use strength instead of rock smash. Is this a difference between Ruby/Sapphire with Emerald. There was the whole reversal of Relicanth and Wailord mentioned in the trivia section. Inspyre 16:01, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

The steps to open the chambers are different in Emerald than in RS, yes. It states the different steps on the respective chamber's articles. ▫▪Ťïňắ ^♫♥ 16:45, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Trivia

"The trio can be caught in Pokémon Platinum, where a remixed version of the music used in Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald is played. There are three other instances in the main series that a legendary trio or one of its members can be caught in a place that is not their native region (one of the legendary beasts can be caught in Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen, the legendary birds are available for capture in Platinum, roaming Sinnoh, and Moltres is available for capture in Johto's Mt. Silver)."

Shouldn't Latios and Latias in Kanto and the weather trio in Johto (both in HG/SS) be mentioned as well? --Locrian 13:09, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Oops, I guess Latios and Latias wouldn't fit into the whole "trio" thing. How silly of me. --Locrian 13:12, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Emerald Encounters

Shouldn't it be written how you encounter them in Pokemon Emerald since how they are encountered in Ruby/Sapphire and how they are encountered in Emerald are completely different. Frozen Fennec 23:26, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Statue types.

I placed:'(the only Pokémon types of which statues can be made)' on the page right after the mentioning of the types (see history please). But it was removed as it has nothing to do with the rest of the article? Does anyone of you know where to place this line: 'their types are the only Pokémon types of which statues can be made'? Nickvang (talk) 23:10, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Thinking about it some more, I'm not even sure I'd agree that it's even factually accurate. You claim that they're the only types of which statues can be made, but after all, topiary is basically the art of making grass statues, and clay (which is used to make terracotta statues) is usually associated with the Ground type, which doesn't have a corresponding golem. And if you'd like to offer an attempt at arguing that it's possible to make a statue out of "normal", be my guest. (Yeah, I know Regigigas isn't included in this article, but it's part of the scope of the topic and really deserves to be included about as much as Keldeo deserves to be part of the Swords of Justice article. But I digress; that's a discussion for another day.) Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 23:57, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

The regi made of clay wouldn't have the name 'Regiground' as it is not ground in its most 'typical' form, so it would be 'Regiclay'. And 'Regigrass' would not be able to exist as an ancient golem, as it would rot. And Regigigas, yeah... ...the normal type can mean many different things, sometimes it is able to make a statue from and sometimes not. My conclusion is: those types are the only types you could make a statue from in its most 'TYPICAL' form AND can be a statue for FOREVER. Nickvang (talk) 17:42, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Why should it be moved?

I see no reason for this page to be moved to "Legendary Titans."

I've never heard of them being called that.

EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't read the entire thing. Ignore this. Angry Weasel (talk) 17:59, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Why Titans and not Golems?

Can someone direct me to the discussion about moving this page to Legendary Titans? I've only ever heard them referred as the Regi Trio or the Legendary Golems, where's the source for "titans"? Kookamooka (talk) 15:37, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

It's hard to find since it's tucked away in the revision history, but this revision introduced the term because it's the official term used in a press release. Official terms trump fan terms, even if the official term is only rarely used and the fan term is widely used. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 15:50, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Regigigas

I believe that Regigigas is too related to be excluded from being a part of the Legendary titans... after all, Regigigas created the other three titans and is highly linked. We have the Swords of Justice as a quartet including Keldeo, and I think the links that Regigigas have are just as notable. --Celadonkey 15:39, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Now that I think it, Regigigas is a member of the group and a trio leader like Cobalion, Rayquaza, and Landorus for example. so yeah I say we add Regigigas to the page, after getting approval of course.--Jacob Kogan (talk) 15:42, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Hold your horses — before we get carried away, I think we should try to figure out exactly how the term "Legendary titans" is used in official sources. (Unfortunately, the citation in the article is now a dead link, so I can't check that.) If its official use is only to refer to the trio, we can't add Regigigas because that would be fanon — well supported fanon, but fanon nonetheless. On the other hand, if it has ever been officially used to refer to all four (or Regigigas alone), it would be best to add it to the article.

Tl;dr it's not a matter of how notable the links are, it's about how the official term has been used in official contexts. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 15:48, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Great point. When we’re not able to go back and check the link it’s even more of an issue.

That being said, though, it creates an interesting conundrum: four Pokémon that are very much related enough for group status, which is a largely fanon idea, but there’s an official name for the group, with unknown usage. It’s a situation that I don’t think has happened before. I’m not saying that we should anything about it, but it’s a interesting nonetheless.

I also was not able to find, outside of the dead link cited on the page, any official usage of “Legendary titans”, and I checked archives to the dead link, but no dice. I wonder if anyone has a screenshot or copies of the text. --Celadonkey 17:56, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Ah, I see Abcboy has updated the link (thanks for that, Abcboy!). The text of that page seems ambiguous to me; it refers to them as "the Legendary titans of the Hoenn region", which could either be a way of distinguishing them from Regigigas (with it included as a titan, but not one of the Hoenn titans) or just a way of describing the group (with Regigigas excluded). Given the ambiguity, I have to say I'm agnostic on the matter until and unless we get more official materials that use the term in the future. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 03:21, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Ages

Is it ok to add as a possibility trivia that Regis could be based on time periods: Ice Age, Stone Age and Iron Age?--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 15:48, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Two new titans

Given that The Crown Tundra appears to be introducing two more Legendary Titans, would it be advised to update the page to acknowledge that they are now the first legendary quintet?

I realize they have not been officially announced, but their designs are unmistakably related to the current trio. --UB00 (talk) 16:21, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

How about until we get their names first and official connection, them that fact can be officially acknowledged.--Jacob Kogan (talk) 16:23, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Legendary Titans Major updates and changes

With Regieleki and Regidrago, this page along with certain other are in need of a major update, as this group is now neither a Legendary trio nor have a Trio Master anymore. This is the first Legendary trio to become a group of five, the most in a Legendary group, outdoing the Tapu. I don't count the Swords of Justice due to their fourth member being a Mythical Pokemon--Jacob9594 (talk) 17:18, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

I agree, most of the article still refers to them as a trio even though they are a quintet now. It makes the article confusing and inconsistent. Ratboy Jr. (talk) 21:17, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

I feel like it might be worth waiting until we know the lore behind them more completely, it won't hurt to wait a little. --Spriteit (talk) 06:08, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Legendary Giants Redirect

With the Crown Tundra's recent release, in-game text refers to the group as "legendary giants" rather than "legendary titans". As the term "titans" was used officially before, it makes sense to me to keep the original name, instead of spending time changing one word on every relevant page. However, someone may want to note down the new name for the group whenever appropriate. Henrai (talk) 13:23, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Regigigas should be included

It is blatantly a member.

You might say "it's the leader! it's not a member!".

By that logic, Rayquaza is not part of the weather trio.

You'll say "it has a different BST!", but so do Rayquaza and Landorus.

This is a sextet.

Lmoamemesxd (talk) 14:19, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

I can't say that I agree with your approach, but I do strongly agree. The lore connection is pretty clear and we've previously used that as a metric. That being said, we should try and find out how the terminology is specifically applied-- IIRC, that was the hangup the last time this was suggested. --celadonk (talk) 00:30, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Legendary Giants Name Change

Pushing for the page to be renamed to Legendary Giants, as per their title in the Crown Tundra. It is far more relevant than how they were described in a western ORAS press kit over 8 years ago, as this is actually within the context of the series, particularly as a group of five. Lewtwo (talk) 13:01, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

FYI, staff are looking at this, but in order to be sure everyone has plenty of time to give input whatever their schedule, we leave a discussion open for about a week.

Regarding legendary giants, I'll contribute these quotes I found in the English and Japanese.

Looks like you’ve reported all there is to report\non Legendary Clue 2 and the legendary giants![VAR 0114(0076)]
いまので　でんせつのメモ２の\nきょじん　でんせつは\r\nぜんぶ　ほうこく　してくれたよな！[VAR 0114(0076)]
That’s gotta be one of those places!\nY’know, where the legendary giants are s’posed\r\nto be![VAR 0114(0076)]
そこが　アレだ！\nでんせつの　きょじんが\r\nいるって　ウワサの　アレだぜ！[VAR 0114(0076)]

You may notice there that there are two different usages. Which is fine. きょじん　でんせつ isn't the right Japanese title for the group; but でんせつの　きょじん is. Also note that the English doesn't capitalize the title. Tiddlywinks (talk) 13:28, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Pokémon UNITE also uses "Legendary Giant" on the Legendary Giant Defeater achievement. --Mine4017 (talk) 21:26, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Worth noting that UNITE capitalizes "Legendary giant" 伝説の巨人 (when in a sentence), which is what I too would support moving it to. Nescientist (talk) 20:54, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Plus it will be more unique and easier to identify the Legendary Titans, I support move as well.--Jacob9594 (talk) 21:26, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

I disagree that it is 'more unique and easier', this would be a slam dunk if SwSh used the term in proper case, but I am happy with the supporting evidence of Unite which does use it in Capital case. AS a side note this page should probably be updated to reflect the regi's being present in that game. --Spriteit (talk) 11:56, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

For the record, this move is approved: "Legendary giants" should be fine. Someone just needs to do the dirty work of relinking/editing the current name... Tiddlywinks (talk) 22:55, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Official capitalization

For the record, the legendary giants and legendary birds do not capitalize 'legendary' in the games. I have also moved Brandon's legendary giants accordingly. Landfish7 12:52, 22 February 2024 (UTC)