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Ash's Pikachu (EToP) & Winona's Altaria

I believe User:Pattyman/Ash's Pikachu (EToP) and User:Pattyman/Winona's Altaria are ready to be checked if they can be placed in the mainspace. The former is an important character in the Electric Tale of Pikachu with Ash's also having the separate article while the latter has been involved in a lot in Pokémon Adventures aside from being Winona's signature Pokémon and appearing in the anime and games. PattyMan 02:25, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

For Altaria, I'll still mainspace it, but is there any way to make the "In the games" section not stretch the screen, like on Morty's Gengar? I tried to do it myself but I am too dumb with code so I couldn't get it to work so I just left it. --ZestyCactus 04:07, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
I took care of the problem, thanks for letting me know. PattyMan 04:54, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! It looks way better now. :) --ZestyCactus 03:18, 2 February 2016 (UTC)


Is the page User:Rahl/Brav ready to be mainspaced?--Rahl (talk) 13:58, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

It looks pretty legit although I removed some broken file links in the switch cuz I noticed not all the pics in the switch actually had files to display. --ZestyCactus 02:23, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


Is the page User:Rahl/Monlee ready to be mainspaced?--Rahl (talk) 16:34, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

It's been done. :D --ZestyCactus 06:14, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

New cover Pokemon Adventures Spain

01300212701_g.jpg The 27th cover - unsigned comment from Ipsilon (talkcontribs)

Ah, I was wondering when the next one would be released! Thanks for letting me know. --ZestyCactus 06:14, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

New template for the manga sections

Hey! :) How are you tonight? ^~^

I sent a message to Ataro asking him if this template ( was ready to go into the manga rounds, but you just logged in, so I figured out, why not ask you? ^~^

I would start adding them as soon as you validate it and give me the go.

PS: Have you been able to find anything about my mysterious CD? MannedTooth (Talk) 05:02, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

I haven't had a chance to research the mysterious CD because I've been busy with my job and other things ^^' I will get to it when I can. Unfortunately, we've reviewed that template in the past (it's been on the sandbox for a while) and we've determined it isn't really needed at this time. It ultimately doesn't add anything substantial to the pages (plain text communicates the information perfectly fine) and between anime and manga articles, there would be well over 1000 pages that it would affect, so we would rather invest more focus on other, higher-priority projects, mainly adding new content as opposed to redecorating existing content. Sorry! --ZestyCactus 06:14, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
it's okay, we all have a real life. :p but adding this template would add so much quality to the wiki since it's compact and sweet for the eyes. If this would happen, I would personally work on adding them, so you guys can concentrate on other things. And that's weird to me, since everytime I try to add new stuff it gets deleted for "unotability". Like, do you guys even want new stuff being added or what? Is it just me that doesn't understand something or what? Sadly, I am now only wandering the wiki, refreshing the recent changes page without knowing what to do. I really, really have motivation. I want to help, you might have noticed already, but there's nothing I can do apparently... :/ MannedTooth (Talk) 06:56, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Well, the template mentioned upthread is purely aesthetic - it's not actually adding any new information to the article, just presenting it differently. The fact of the matter is there is lots to do... but you specifically told me you weren't interested in the wanted pages and you didn't seem really interested when I mentioned the Manga to-do list or other similar projects (Articles needing improvement, etc.) these are really the things that we need the most. Your manga plot summaries were good and that is an area we have very few contributors in - are you no longer interested in doing those? There are 890 articles with incomplete plot summaries, including anime episodes. We have many editors who like working on character articles, but there are some that still could use some help, particularly for more obscure series. I'm also still interested in starting a page for those Quebec French VHS tapes - I have five or six of them myself, but I've put it to the back burner because content that is not in English or Japanese is generally lower priority, but I did plan to make it one day, so if you are willing to help, that opportunity is still open too. That's just a short-term project though - the longer-term stuff is adding summaries (which there is a high reader demand for), keeping up on volume releases and chapter/round article creation, that sort of tedious stuff. Researching old merchandise and documenting it. It's tedious, sure, but that's the true backbone of the manga section. I see little value in adding templates to change the look of the pages when so many manga pages look like this. --ZestyCactus 03:35, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
It's not that I didn't want to anymore, it's just that it takes a lot of time to do these! :P But if you tell me that the ones I added were good. I will sure keep it up! :)
As for the Quebec tapes, I'm just unsure about what I need to do. Give me specific requests and I'll gladly lend a hand! MannedTooth (Talk) 03:49, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Forgot to mention that I also suggested to Ataro to add a navigation bar at the top of each rounds, just like for the anime episodes. MannedTooth (Talk) 03:51, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
We actually had one a long time ago and it was abolished (I'm not entirely sure why, as that was before my time. I think it was considered redundant because the chapter info box already has the previous and next links in it). --ZestyCactus 03:46, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Celebi (Adventures)

Is the page User:Animaltamer7/Celebi (Adventures)‎ good enough to be mainspaced?--Rahl (talk) 03:39, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Also, is the page User:Rahl/Diamond's Rotom ready to be mainspaced?--Rahl (talk) 01:54, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
In addition how about the pages User:Rahl/Ruby's Plusle and User:Rahl/Sapphire's Minun?--Rahl (talk) 03:13, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
Woah, sorry! I got busy with work and haven't had time to come to the computer for the last few days. I'll take a look at them right now. --ZestyCactus 03:46, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

And another more (Spanish cover)

Caw9dxAW0AMo_bs.jpg The 3th - unsigned comment from Ipsilon (talkcontribs)

Thank you! --ZestyCactus 03:46, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Platinum's Lopunny

Is the page User:Rahl/Platinum's Lopunny‎ good enough to be mainspaced?--Rahl (talk) 00:34, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Covers of distinct countries

Hi, I give you some covers for Pokémon Adventures from some countries:
Gold & Silver french omnibus 1: [1]
X & Y french volume 3: [2]
Red, Green & Blue and Yellow german volume 1: [3]
Red, Green & Blue and Yellow german volume 2: [4]
Black & White german volume 5: [5]
Black & White german volume 6: [6]
Black & White german volume 7: [7]
Black & White german volume 8: [8]
Black & White german volume 9: [9]
X & Y german volume 1: [10]
X & Y german volume 2: [11]
X & Y german volume 3: [12]
Red, Green & Blue and Yellow finnish volume 2: [13]
Red, Green & Blue and Yellow finnish volume 3: [14]
Red, Green & Blue and Yellow finnish volume 4: [15]
Red, Green & Blue and Yellow finnish volume 5: [16]
Black & White italian volume 12: [17]
Black & White italian volume 13: [18]
Black & White italian volume 14: [19]
Black & White italian volume 15: [20]
Vietnamese volume 11: [21]
Vietnamese volume 12: [22]
Vietnamese volume 13: [23]
Vietnamese volume 14: [24]
Black & White brazilian volume 4: [25]
Black & White brazilian volume 5: [26]
Black & White brazilian volume 6: [27]
Black & White brazilian volume 7: [28]
Black & White brazilian volume 8: [29]
Black & White brazilian volume 9: [30]
--Ipsilon (talk) 11:43, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Wow, thank you! These will take me a little while to get through but I'm really excited, some of these I didn't know were released lol ^^' --ZestyCactus 04:08, 20 February 2016 (UTC)


Hey Zesty Cactus! Is this page User:Wowy/Pokémon Nanoblocks mainspaceable? Or are there any changes I'll need to do first?--Wowy(토크) 04:15, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

It's done. It's your job to find ways to link to it in other pages though ;) --ZestyCactus 04:51, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks!!--Wowy(토크) 05:00, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Tate and Liza's two Pokémon

I believe User:Pattyman/Tate's Solrock and User:Pattyman/Liza's Lunatone are ready to be mainspaced even though I had them sitting in the userspace for a while and as part of the other mainspace requests, lol. PattyMan 05:44, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

All good here. --ZestyCactus 06:31, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Pokémon Adventures

I don't know if you can read Korean but I thought you might be interested. Not sure if you want an official site, but if you search 포켓몬스터 스페셜 on this website, a list of Korean Pokémon Adventures releases will come up. The website is Kyobo books (a well known book store, so reliable?). I know nothing about the manga and I don't have the time to invest in editing for it, but I'll leave it here if you're willing to do it. There is a bar at the bottom where you can scroll pages, but I haven't checked if they've got all volumes. --Wowy(토크) 05:57, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Can't read Korean but I will definitely be looking at it anyway! I can find my way around any bookstore's website XD thanks for the link! --ZestyCactus 06:31, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

RE: Covers of distinct countries

I'm sorry to tell you that German volumes are not omnibus ^^' , only they merged the chapters, but the volumes are the same. - unsigned comment from Ipsilon (talkcontribs)

Oh, my bad! I misunderstood before but I get it now. --ZestyCactus 16:14, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Gold's Sunbo

Hi, is this acceptable for mainspacing? Rahl helped me with the summary.Animaltamer710:30, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Hey. You asked that same question to me almost two years ago. I don't know what Zesty's opinion is, but mine is that Sunbo is still not notable enough for an article. Ataro (talk) 15:38, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
I will have to back Ataro up on this one and pass on mainspacing. Sunbo has multiple appearances but the majority of them are fairly minor and not critical to the advancement of the plot. The notable stuff, such as her participation in the Pokéathlon, can easily be added to her section on Gold's page. Also, she doesn't really have a lot of significant character development for herself or drive character development for Gold. --ZestyCactus 06:22, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Crystal's starter

I was looking at the Manual of style/Manga/Manga Pokémon notability policy page and noticed that it says "Starter Pokémon that are owned by any of the main characters (Such as any Pokédex holder, Wally, Cheren, and Bianca) are all notable, provided they have appeared in more than one chapter/round. If they have not met this criteria, then they would have to have a significant impact on the plot of the chapter/round, manga series as a whole, or a certain arc." Through flashbacks we have seen that Smoochum is her starter, so should it get its own page?--Rahl (talk) 05:44, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Possibly, if the article can prove her significance to the plot and character development. Basically if there's enough to say that couldn't be reasonably fit into her existing section on Crystal's page. --ZestyCactus 06:22, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Legendary Birds

Hi Zesty, are the Legendary Birds worth having an adventures page?Animaltamer710:22, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

You mean Thu-Fi-Zer? --ZestyCactus 18:28, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
No I mean like a page for the individuals, since Thu-Fi-zer is a fusion of them.Animaltamer703:38, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
I don't really think that's necessary. The existing page could be expanded to include information about their roles as individuals (which are pretty minor). Alternatively the page could be converted to "Legendary birds (Adventures)" with a section on their combined role as Thu-Fi-Zer (which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, since the page is at a Japanese name). But I definitely don't believe that there's enough information to warrant two separate pages. One is good enough. --ZestyCactus 03:44, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
Actually that's what I meant, the "Legendary Birds (Adventures)" article instead of individual pages of each of them.Animaltamer704:47, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
Yeah. So either the information can be added to Thu-Fi-Zer, or Thu-Fi-Zer can be converted into "Legendary birds (Adventures)" with a "Thu-Fi-Zer" section. We don't need both pages separately. --ZestyCactus 04:57, 5 March 2016 (UTC)


I might have already asked you that. But since it's Manga March, I'll ask again: do you need any template for the manga section? I've been practicing for a while now. I think I can come out with something pretty neat.

That, and have you decided on whether we should keep the next/prev chapter in the infobox or add a navigation bar at the top? I'd take care of that. MannedTooth (Talk) 05:53, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

There aren't any needed templates at this time, but if anything comes up, I'll be sure to let you know.
As I mentioned previously, the manga pages used to have a navigation bar at the top, but it was eliminated when the current infobox was created, which has the previous and next links included. It's fine the way it is. --ZestyCactus 06:12, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Page for Barbara

Does Barbara have the right qualities for having a page? User:Animaltamer712:20, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

I am assuming you're referring to White's Vullaby? In that case, not really... she doesn't really have a significant enough role to warrant breaking out the page. She appears in like, four rounds only, right? Her current section on White's page is fine. --ZestyCactus 02:58, 19 March 2016 (UTC)


Is User:Animaltamer7/Mew (Adventures), ok for mainspacing? Animaltamer710:41, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Mainspacing (2)

Is this page ready for mainspacing? PattyMan 23:28, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Pokémon Adventures

Hey Zesty! I was looking more into the Korean manga and I found out that the link I referenced before (this) seems to have updated their stuff and now if you search 포켓몬스터 스페셜, more than one version comes up, each with different ISBN numbers, and released at different dates (and different prices). Volumes 1-25 seem to have gotten 3 different versions, and 26-36 seem to have had 2 versions. Do these count as different editions (due to their different ISBN) or is more confirmation required? Also, the dates for the older versions of these volumes seem to match (roughly) with other websites usually within the same month. So should I update the pages with the release date according to the above website or write only the month? --Wowy(토크) 06:02, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

What years were the three editions published in? Another user mentioned the multiple ISBNs to me a long time ago, but I could never make sense of it. Do they have different cover artworks? I wonder if the translation is different (I doubt it). Thanks for helping me with this ^^' what do you think?
So, are other websites saying the same month, but a different date? I'm a little confused. What other websites are you referring to? The site you linked above is a reputable bookseller chain, right? Depending on what the other sources are I would consider a bookseller chain (I guess equal to Chapters or Barnes and Noble) pretty legit. But let me know :P --ZestyCactus 04:19, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm quite confused too :S, but this is what information I could get:
Using Pokémon Special volume 1 as an example, the 'first edition' was published on 25/8/1999 with an ISBN of 9788984423763(8984423769). The 'second edition' was published on 20/5/2010 with an ISBN of 9788925230207(8925230208). The 'third edition' was published on 19/7/2011 with an ISBN of 9788925284156(8925284154).
For some volumes up to volume 19, I can notice that certain 1st edition covers differ from the subsequent editions (2nd and 3rd editions have the same cover), but only slightly. For instance, for Pokémon Special volume 1, the edition published in 1999 has a different background, and the word 한국어판 (Korean edition) is below the 포켓몬스터 logo, while the newer editions have a plain red background with the word 한국어판 at the top of the cover. Pokémon Special volume 14 has the most obvious difference in the cover art as it has the number 14 written in a different place. However, despite the difference in covers and ISBN, I suspect they are just repackaged differently but have the same translation (as you suspect as well). I'm not too familiar with manga, but to constitute as a new edition, does it require an updated translation (or just merely different ISBN)?
In terms of the source, Kyobo books is the largest book chain store in Korea. I think it's probably the most reliable source since the Daewon CI site has been down for a while. The other website I was checking was this. The dates are mostly the same between the two websites. And is there any way we could get official confirmation on these (email?)
I have time next week so I can help upload pictures, write up ISBNs and dates if you want help.
--Wowy(토크) 09:39, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
Just to add, according to the Pokémon in South Korea page at least the first 14 volumes are flipped to read the Western way, but the manga has since been unflipped to be the same as the Japanese ones. Just a thought, but I think the old 1st edition volumes are the ones which were flipped to read the Western way, and the newer editions are the ones which are unflipped. I've been looking at scans of the manga online and up to volume 21 (at least) I've seen flipped ones which correlate with the old style cover art, which supports this theory. The dates and ISBN numbers also match which helps. I can't find scans of the newer editions though to check if they are unflipped like the Japanese ones.
And sorry for dumping my thoughts and text here! :)--Wowy(토크) 11:12, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
Ohhhhh you know what the flipped/unflipped theory makes sense. Aren't Korean comics normally written in a left-to-right reading format? So it makes sense that they would want to flip them in the olden days. It reminds me of how Tokyopop did Peach Girl (starting from volume 9, they did it unflipped, and then published new unflipped editions of 1-8 later to match).
Anyway, I would just add them as first/second/third editions for now. If the cover artwork is identical, you can just repeat it. :P --ZestyCactus 01:40, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Unknown Pokemon

Hey Zesty, I was looking through chapter 27 of the X & Y arc and I found a pokemon I couldn't figure out. It reminds me of a machop a bit but I can't tell, I wanted to ask if you know what it its, its under the Meowstic, early thanks. Animaltamer707:31, 1 April 2016 (UTC) [31]

OMG it looks like a blob to me. My boyfriend says it looks like Electrike so I don't even know XD --ZestyCactus 01:40, 2 April 2016 (UTC)


Is the page User:FinnishPokéFan92/Snor ready to be mainspaced? I know it isn't as prominent as some of Red's other Pokemon, but I think its appearance in multiple medias makes it important enough.--Rahl (talk) 02:10, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

I've discussed this with other members of the Editorial Board and we've actually decided to eliminate the Origins and game-related sections from Red and Blue's pages, as they are distinct characters from the game characters Red and Blue. They are cross-canon counterparts, sure, but they are too distinct to mix their Pokémon's information together. (It's not the same as regular Gym Leaders, who usually use pretty much the same Pokémon everywhere and mostly for battling). At the most, I'd suggest linking to the game characters' pages for more information on some same Pokémon used between the two (for example, Ash's Pikachu linking to Red's Pikachu). Fortunately, we still think the Snor article is mainspaceable on just the basis of Adventures-related content (I think there may be a few more appearances that could be mentioned to expand the article, though: for example, the first two moves in the list are from rounds not mentioned in the body of the article). So that's pretty much it. (As an aside, did you check with FPF92 about the article being submitted for approval? He is still active, and ideally, the article's creator should be the one submitting it for approval.) --ZestyCactus 03:45, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Pokémon XY Vol. 7

A quick heads-up, Vol. 7's image has been revealed for Viz's XY series, and I can tell you it looks cool with both Quilladin and Charmeleon on the cover. -Tyler53841 (talk) 06:00, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Just got the volume page up and running. -Tyler53841 (talk) 04:58, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Awesome :) you were right, the cover artwork is pretty cool haha. --ZestyCactus 05:03, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
One thing that is noticeable right now is Viz is obviously dividing their mini-volumes into 2 separate volumes with 3 and then 4 chapters each. While it is too soon to post this information as anything could happen while the volumes are still in production, it is something important to keep an eye on in the meantime. -Tyler53841 (talk) 05:24, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Aero (Adventures)

Hey! :) I've contacted Ataro with this, but he hasn't answered me yet, and since you're head of Manga and connected right now, I thought I'd send it to you. :)


Please give me your thoughts on it, I know that there is already a page created for it, but it was created back in 2012 and still hasn't been mainspaced yet. Just wondered why. MannedTooth (Talk) 05:20, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Well, actually, Ataro is the Head of Manga — he took my old spot when I was promoted to Deputy Editor-in-Chief. However, since I am the former Head of Manga (so I would consider myself somewhat of an expert on the subject...), you're not wrong to contact me if you didn't get a reply from Ataro. :P
Anyway, I'd still like to discuss the situation with Kogoro, but I haven't had a chance yet, so it may be another day or two before I can give you a final decision. Since FinnishPokéFan92's article was made first, we may end up combining the articles (along with the history, so you'll both get credit). Just wanted to give you a heads up and let you know I haven't forgotten about this ^^'
Lastly, just a friendly reminder that all mainspaceable userspace pages should be tagged with {{Mainspace}}, and should not be categorized in any regular categories (such as Red's Pokémon). This ensures it only appears in either Candidates for mainspacing and Candidates for mainspacing/Under construction. We don't want anyone searching by categories to find an incomplete or unapproved page mixed in with the proper ones :P categories may be hidden with those funky arrows in the character palette below the editing window (<!--[[Category:Example]]-->) so that when the page is mainspaced, all we have to do is remove the arrows and it's good to go. These are also used to add notes and such on completed pages — you may have seen them around as you've been editing. Thank you! --ZestyCactus 01:25, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Oh, I'll remember Ataro as head of the Manga. I'll use the mainspace tag from now on, I'm always hesitant to use it, I'm like "is my page good enough for it?" Anyway, thanks for the advices, I'll use the html comments tags for categories of pages not mainspaced. MannedTooth (Talk) 01:43, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
I actually recommend using the Mainspace tag as it flags articles for staff review and also helps other users know which pages are being worked on. If in doubt, you can always use the "under construction" version if you're not ready for it to be reviewed for mainspaceability. If anything, if the article isn't up to standard, by having it tagged it'll be easier for us to know it's there and offer advice for improvement if the subject is notable but the article itself needs improvement. --ZestyCactus 03:53, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
As always, thank you for the great tips! :) It's really appreciated. :) MannedTooth (Talk) 04:12, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Alright, so I've discussed the situation with Kogoro and the plan now is to mainspace FinnishPokéFan's article, since it was there first and has more information. (Since your page was made with pre-existing knowledge of the other WIP page, unfortunately they won't be merged, but obviously you are free to edit the existing page once it's mainspaced.) Sorry to keep you waiting for a response. Just keep in mind for next time, even if a page has gone a while without being mainspaced, it's still a candidate unless a specific reason has been given for it to not be mainspaced (non-notability, poor quality, etc). Most users allow others to help them with their draft pages (after all, they do want it to be complete and high-quality enough to become a main content article, which anyone may edit anyway), although if they are still active you can always ask them for permission if you're not sure or they haven't specifically stated that anyone may edit their page. --ZestyCactus 06:18, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
It's alright, but if that changes anything, I did not know about the existence of the page until a user notified me after "completing" it. MannedTooth (Talk) 06:25, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry if I didn't understand correctly, but based on your reply to Pattyman here it sounded like you did know about the page before creating it. --ZestyCactus 06:31, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
I don't remember why I said that to be honest, probably not to sound like a fool uselessly doing a job that has already been done, but in all honesty here, I really didn't know about it. Anyway, it doesn't matter that much, I did it for fun :p MannedTooth (Talk) 06:37, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Well, relating back to what I mentioned upthread, this is a good example of why potential mainspace articles should be tagged so that yourself and other users can find them in the category. Just keep that in mind for next time ^^' anyway, if you're finished with your page, I'm going to delete it now since the main Aero page has been mainspaced. --ZestyCactus 06:47, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Can you wait a day or two before deleting it? I am on my iPad and I would like to copy it aomewhere on my PC so that I can discuss with Finnish what we can do keep from it. If you really can't I'll understand, don't worry, delete it. :p - unsigned comment from MannedTooth (talkcontribs)
That's okay. When you are finished with it, please tag it with {{Delete}} so that myself or another staff member will know it's okay to delete it. --ZestyCactus 06:56, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Regarding uploaded images of traps and tiles in Gates to Infinity

I know this is not part of Generation VI, but rather Generation V. As Masatoshi pointed out to me, I apparently have to get permission to upload Nintendo 3DS game screenshots or any kind of images, models or sprites. Earlier, I thought it only applied to Generation VI games, since it said so in the message, but I think it needs to be made more clear by saying "all Nintendo 3DS games, not just Generation VI" so that others don't make the same decision that I did, which was uploading them before getting permission. You're more than welcome to take a look at the traps that I took from the screenshots that I did from in-game from Gates to Infinity from my capture card. So you can verify, just incase mine are in violation. Here they are: [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] Thanks! —Platinum Lucario (talk) 15:55, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi! I do apologize for the confusing wording on the message, I agree that it was pretty unclear and I am glad to see it has been updated. It's not so much that it's from Generation VI specifically, but that it's from the 3DS, which is harder to obtain screenshots from than previous systems. Since not everyone can be bothered to obtain and master the tools needed for these screenshots, we have to ask for confirmation just to ensure that you're really making the screenshots yourself and not taking them from some other source without the original screenshotter's permission. Having said that, I'm sorry to bug you, but you don't happen to have X/Y or OR/AS, do you? Normally, for confirmation, we ask for a specific Pokémon to be caught and given a specific nickname. As you can imagine it's harder to have criteria like this for a Mystery Dungeon game, so for simplicity, I can confirm you from one of those games and then you'll be free to upload all your Mystery Dungeon screenshots. :) Thanks for your understanding in this matter! --ZestyCactus 03:18, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Thank you so much! I'm also planning on taking screenshots and models from Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon as well (since I have that as well). As for main series games, I have Pokémon X, Y, Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, but I mainly use X and Omega Ruby. But if I need to upload any screenshots in the future from the main series games, I'd be more than welcome to do so under that criteria along with it's specific nickname. ^^ —Platinum Lucario (talk) 05:38, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
That's great! For confirmation, if you can capture a Flabébé for me from your X or Y and nickname it Bulbapedia, send me the screenshot (you can upload it to an external site and link to it here) and once I've seen it then you'll be free to upload any images from all the 3DS titles. Thanks! --ZestyCactus 05:44, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Okay, for a start, I will first show you the capture device I use, it's called 3DS Capture. [39] [40] Now I'll do Pokémon X next, with the nicknamed Flabébé as you mentioned.—Platinum Lucario (talk) 05:56, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Sorry that I took so long. I ran into some issues with my 3DS NAND (since I was using 4.5 sysNAND, and the 6.0.x save encryption on Pokémon X couldn't activate on my emuNAND). But I fixed the issue by restoring a 9.2 sysNAND backup from two years ago, so it's all good now. Anyways, here's several screenshots of me catching and verifying the Flabébé: [41] [42] [43] [44] [45] [46] [47] [48] [49] [50] [51] As for Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon, I've come across a big discovery. The game uses a much more newer type of save encryption. So that means that if I use it on my hacked 3DS (which is the one that has 3DS Capture on it), it will mean that the game will complain and say that it's corrupted. Even playing it with a sysNAND at 9.2 will still have the same issues. So either I'll wait until there's support for newer 3DS firmware versions, or I could start over on a new save, completely separate from the one that I've got on the game card itself and take screenshots that way. Just so you know, I do some research into game data on ROM images too. So if I learn more about extracting carc. packages and all that, then I could be able to dwelve deeper into seeing what levels the enemy Pokémon are at, as well as the percentages they can appear at too.—Platinum Lucario (talk) 23:31, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Sounds sucky with the technical issues, but you're good to go here, so you're free to upload images from the 3DS games now. :) --ZestyCactus 03:21, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Yay! Thank you! Also, I can now take screenshots of Super Mystery Dungeon on my old save file. Apparently, that new type of encryption involves unique save encryption keys, meaning they're different for every game card manufactured, even if there was another Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon of the same region. But by using the retail game card while in emuNAND Classic Mode, I was able to play my old save without any problems. So until there's a way of extracting the unique save encryption keys from the game card, it'll be impossible to share save files without the game deleting the save. But anyways, here's some of the screenshots I made from Super Mystery Dungeon: [52][53][54][55][56][57][58][59][60][61][62][63][64][65][66][67][68] I'll be cropping the traps and tiles from these, I also have others and will be taking more screenshots in the game. So if you see any traps and tiles from Super Mystery Dungeon, you'll know it's me. ^^—Platinum Lucario (talk) 14:05, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Wanna work together?

Hey! Remember me? I've got plenty of Quebec VHS and plenty of time right now! Wanna get something done? ^^ I'm excited to help! MannedTooth (Talk) 03:59, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Do you have access to a scanner? I've uploaded the covers of the tapes I have seen here but you have some that I'm missing. (Also, I think I have a DVD that I haven't scanned lol) If you don't, no worries, we can skip that now and come back to it. You didn't have any Quebec French DVDs, did you? Just the VHS? --ZestyCactus 04:04, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
I do have a scanner if needed, and no, I don't have any DVD (except for the music CD I talked to you about). MannedTooth (Talk) 04:10, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Okay, cool. You don't happen to know if Imavision released any other story arcs (i.e. Orange Islands, Johto Journeys) or just the Indigo League? I think this is going to be the most similar page to what this project will be (ignoring the "Boxed sets" section, since I don't think there is one), since the DVD and VHS have different episode listings (the DVD I have has five episodes on it as opposed to three per VHS). I'm not too sure if it'll be entirely complete but we can at least start it with the volumes we have.
So basically, for this page we will need:
  • Scanned images of all tapes and DVDs that we can access
  • Barring that, stock artwork of covers from reputable retail sites such as Amazon are okay, but not images taken from other fan sites (if we have to, we can leave the pictures blank)
  • All the volumes we know about for sure, need to be placed in chronological order (from oldest to newest). If there are any missing volumes in between, we need to know how many there are (if possible) and research them online (if possible). I'm wondering if Imavision has a web site that may be archived on, this would be ideal if we can find an archived listing of what volumes they released
    • As a last resort, we can write to them and ask for a listing, but they may not be able to help us because it's so old (I did have some success writing to Chuang Yi about manga releases before they went out of business. VIZ Media, on the other hand, sent me my own incomplete article when I asked for more information!)
    • At any rate, if nothing else, we can still make a partial article just based on the stuff that we already own.
If you want, you can go ahead and start an article in your userspace. I think you have all the same volumes as me (minus the DVD) but if you need the catalogue numbers or anything just let me know and I'll add them. Feel free to use my previous articles as examples. :P
Also, let me know if you happen to know if there are more releases beyond Indigo League and the movies or just those ones. Depending how many there are we may be able to fit all the Quebec releases on one page :P --ZestyCactus 04:28, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
I'm going to proceed scanning every VHS box art we don't already have. Do we need the back of the box? MannedTooth (Talk) 04:38, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Oh, and by the way this file is not the 13th, it's the 14th, look at the number on the TAPE not the BOX. :P MannedTooth (Talk) 04:40, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Oh, that's really weird because the catalogue number is IMAV-0013. But I got out the tape just now and it does say 0014. Is there another tape with a catalogue number IMAV-0013? What a weird error. Also, don't bother scanning the back of the boxes for now. We don't have them for any other releases or similar projects. --ZestyCactus 04:44, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Yup, I was confused too, I do have a two boxes with the IMAV-0013 catalogue number. MannedTooth (Talk) 04:45, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Okay, I'll move my picture then to make room for the "real" IMAV-0013. I'm assuming the other tape you have has the episodes that come before this one. --ZestyCactus 04:50, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

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Yes, I got the real 13th volume. Scanning it right now :P MannedTooth (Talk) 04:52, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm done scanning them. Want me to upload them directly onto the archives or on Imgur and you can see them first? MannedTooth (Talk) 05:15, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
No, it's okay. If you are autoconfirmed on the Archives already you may upload them yourself. --ZestyCactus 05:20, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
There! I uploaded them! :) MannedTooth (Talk) 05:54, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
When adding the episodes included, shall I write the french title or the english title? I'm going to stick with the english for now, but tell me. MannedTooth (Talk) 06:20, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Hmm. You could maybe do something like on Pokémon Black and White volume 1 (France). --ZestyCactus 06:26, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
I'll be needing more information, I don't want to mess things up. By the way, you may have already seen it, but there it is MannedTooth (Talk) 06:56, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Your page is off to a good start. One thing I suggest is that the titles of the tapes should have English translations with the "tt" template, as seen on Pokémon anime novelization series (France). --ZestyCactus 17:17, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Is it possible to use both the tt template and the link ... ? It would be better to have a link, don't you think? MannedTooth (Talk) 17:49, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

(resetting indent) Are we talking about the same thing? I'm talking about the titles of the tapes, not the titles of the episodes. We're not making individual articles for each tape - that's why we have these list articles. Each French title of each tape should have an English translation, like those novels I linked to upthread (see under "title"). As for the episode titles, I prefer not to combine tt and links, I would rather have something like Pokémon Black and White volume 1 (France) or Pocket Monsters Film Comic if we're going to list both the French and English episode titles. --ZestyCactus 03:21, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Also, volume 13 (the real IMAV-0013 lol) is in a clamshell case, not a paper sleeve, right? Seems like at some point they switched from sleeves to clamshells and the clamshell case tapes have four episodes, not three. It would be nice to know exactly which point they switched so we can note when the cases change types. --ZestyCactus 03:25, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Yes I was talking about the episode titles, so I'll do something like this:
<<Je te choisis, Pikachu!>> I choose you Pikachu!
and yes, the 13th is in a clamshell, I don't know when they switched tho, I only have the volume 1-7 and 13-14. Oh, I have some movies as well, need those? MannedTooth (Talk) 03:33, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
That should be good, though remember episode titles are italicized. ^^ we'll have to look online and see if we can find any more information about the other tapes. I've seen them turn up on eBay now and again so maybe we can at least find out the episode listings or something. The movies would be good, I'm thinking for now we should just make one page for all the Quebec French releases rather than making separate pages. So the movies could go under their own heading, like:
==Indigo League==
==Pokémon movies==
We can also add headings for Orange Islands and Johto Journeys if they ever made tapes of those. --ZestyCactus 03:43, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
OK, I found some info on some of the other tapes online but I gotta leave for now so it's okay with you I'll add them to your page as well as my DVD sometime in the next few days. Looks like volume 13 is the first of the clamshell ones, the volume 12 i found online is a paper sleeve. i haven't found anything of the Orange Islands or Johto Journeys yet. --ZestyCactus 05:20, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Have you left yet? If you didn't, can you take a look at what I did, it should be alright, right? MannedTooth (Talk) 05:48, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Oh, that definitely looks better! I think we found the same pages haha :P The titles of the movies still need translations (on the far left column). --ZestyCactus 05:55, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't know you wanted them as well, shall I do just like the way I did for the episodes? MannedTooth (Talk) 05:56, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Managed to find the 8th volume. MannedTooth (Talk) 01:51, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Great! For the names of the movies, you can just use "tt" since it's not a link. The "main" text should be the French title and the hover text should be the English translation. (French text) --ZestyCactus 02:10, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

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Done! MannedTooth (Talk) 02:27, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Okay, I added my DVD and mainspaced the page. Feel free to add the Pokémon movies you have. Also note that I changed the page because I actually meant to have direct translations of the titles from French to English — not the equivalent title from the English version. "Duel à Pewter Cité" doesn't mean "The Mystery of Mount Moon" in French :P --ZestyCactus 03:29, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Sweet! I'm so happy that one of my project got mainspaced! :3 DO you have anything else you wanna work on? Gosh I love working in team and researching. I love the feeling of being part of this great family that is Bulbapedia. MannedTooth (Talk) 03:42, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Silver's Gyarados

Assuming I can make Silver's Gyarados's page as expansive as every other page I have done could it get its own page and not just a section in the Red Gyarados?--Rahl (talk) 00:58, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Sure, that should be okay. --ZestyCactus 03:21, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Alright I made the page. Please take a look at it.--Rahl (talk) 04:45, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Oh, it looks great! I'll move it over. --ZestyCactus 05:20, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Legendary beasts

Hey, I finished this: User:Animaltamer7/Legendary beasts (Adventures) with help fro Rahl. Is it ok for mainspacing?Animaltamer713:22, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

It's cool, thanks! --ZestyCactus 03:29, 13 April 2016 (UTC)


Is the page User:Rahl/Rara ready to be mainspaced?--Rahl (talk) 17:02, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Adventures Kalos Pokémon

Are the pages User:Pattyman/Marisso, User:Ataro/Salamè, User:Animaltamer7/Fletchy, and User:Handmaiden 101/Malva's Braixen ready to be mainspaced?--Rahl (talk) 01:37, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

If they are mainspaced, then can User:Animaltamer7/X's Pokémon and User:Animaltamer7/Y's Pokémon as with the above articles, X and Y will have enough pokemon to use these templates.Animaltamer703:08, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Hey guys, I have been hella busy since I got back and I haven't had time to properly look over the pages yet (I should likely be able to sometime this weekend). Just lettin you know I've seen your messages and I'll get back to you soon. :P --ZestyCactus 04:45, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire chapter

Just found out through Amazon the Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire chapter will be released by Viz in mini-volume format with the dates for the first two volumes confirmed. From the looks of it, a separate page like what happened with the X and Y chapter will need to be made in the future, though this does not to be addressed for a few months. -Tyler53841 (talk) 16:34, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh, cool. Thanks for the heads-up. I really don't get why they can't just translate the perfectly good Japanese mini-volumes lol --ZestyCactus 04:45, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Still premature to add it to list of publications or create a volume list for it until the first cover picture is revealed to carefully confirm what the title is but I presume that similar to X and Y they are dividing it into two volumes. Did you notice for X and Y that every two volumes have the same background coloring. You can still consider adding this as a new point at any point you wish though. -Tyler53841 (talk) 13:12, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, I don't want to move it if we can avoid it XD I think it's 100% certain that it's a different "series" since the page count for volume 1 is 96 and the Japanese volume 1 is almost 200 pages. So you're probably right that it's split in half. I wouldn't bother making an article until we have a cover photo (partly to triple-check the name, and partly cuz there's not much to say yet) unless you really wanted to XD --ZestyCactus 02:57, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Since it is in my purchases it will make it easier for me to spot it once a picture is revealed, then everything can proceed. I'll send word once it is ready, which I estimate within a two month period as Vol. 1 is a September release. -Tyler53841 (talk) 04:48, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Pokemon Templates for Trevor and Tierno

Just asking that since the Kalos starters have pages, are Trevor and Tierno acceptable for having a "<blank>'s Pokemon" template since they both have used/carried atleast two of the starters? Animaltamer705:48, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

I wouldn't bother because none of the Pokémon are actually theirs, just temporary or lost. --ZestyCactus 04:23, 3 May 2016 (UTC)


Is the page User:Rahl/Tula ready to be mainspaced?--Rahl (talk) 19:50, 2 May 2016 (UTC)


Is the page User:Rahl/Bonee ready to be mainspaced?--Rahl (talk) 23:32, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Tower duo

Hi, is User:Animaltamer7/Tower duo ok for mainspacing?Animaltamer707:26, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

It looks pretty good but it should have the Adventures section at least started and not left empty. --ZestyCactus 03:07, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
Finished.Animaltamer704:43, 9 May 2016 (UTC)


Now that Sun and Moon's release date has been confirmed, in case lockdown is still in effect during that time, I'll send you the english titles for the second VIZ mini-volume of the Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire chapter which is scheduled for December through the forum again just like what happened before with FireRed and LeafGreen. -Tyler53841 (talk) 13:25, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


Is the page User:Rahl/Kit ready to be mainspaced?--Rahl (talk) 02:38, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

XY Vol. 8

The cover image for Viz's eighth mini-volume has been revealed. Just thought you should know. -Tyler53841 (talk) 03:23, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Lake guardians

Is this ok for mainspacing?Animaltamer709:00, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Meteorite information

I have information about the Meteorite appearances in the anime and manga on an external document offsite but I'm not sure where to put them on here as the Meteorite doesn't have its own page and both of the Gen 3 and 6 key items pages didn't have an anime/manga section listed for the items that appeared in the anime/manga. Do you know where I should put them? PattyMan 03:58, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

One day eventually we are going to have pages for every key item, so it may be best to hold on to it and when the page goes up you can add it then. --ZestyCactus 03:48, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


I edit this page once every 7-8 months and every time, my brain just breaks trying to actually add stuff to it when the time comes. It's 5 in the morning and I'm too tired for this. If it's not too much trouble, can you (or anyone else who reads this) please add the titles from the latest XY volume to the List of rounds in the twelfth chapter of Pokémon Adventures page? Thanks in advance.

  • The titles are: ハッサム、受ける (Scizor, Catch) ルチャブル、襲う (Hawlucha, Attack) カイロス、化わる (Pinsir, Change) ジガルデ、現る (Zygarde, Appear) カラマネロ、仕掛ける (Malamar, Lay a Trap) and ブリガロン、守る (Chesnaught, Protect) Ataro (talk) 09:46, 25 June 2016 (UTC)


Is the page User:Rahl/Costa ready to be mainspaced?--Rahl (talk) 21:50, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Yes. Sorry for the slowness of my reply lol --ZestyCactus 03:11, 4 July 2016 (UTC)


Is it alright for Manaphy(and/or to na extension Phione) to have an adventures page, as the W Mission Story is set in the same continuity as Adventures?Animaltamer712:42, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

No. Both Pokemon have had less than ten pages of panel time. And while it was important to W Mission Story, it only appeared as an Egg. Eggs are not characters. Ataro (talk) 15:42, 2 July 2016 (UTC)


I left a comment on your archive talk page. I guess you don't check that often. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) 22:01, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Left a reply. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) 00:01, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Need help editing!

I noticed you seem pretty comfy with editing, and I need help. I want to help with the stubs and articles needing pictures. However, I have no clue how to use the editor and the text doesn't do it. I don't know how to import photos to articles or much about templates. I'm only good at typing new words, as I TRIED to edit the page for Malamar but it was rejected. I've been going on long enough. Overall I need you to help me so I can help you!--Grass4Lyfe (talk) 06:29, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your message and interest in editing! The reason your edit on Malamar was reverted was because it basically repeated the same thing in the sentence above it. Please be mindful of things like this when you're editing — look at the big picture, not just your edit.
Having said that, I'm not sure how you mean on "no clue how to use the editor". Is there a certain feature you don't understand? Your edit to Malamar went through, so I know you're capable of at least that much. You'll have to elaborate more on what you need help with ^^'
All images and photos are done through the Bulbagarden Archives, rather than through Bulbapedia; this way, images can also be shared with Bulbanews. Please note that you will need to be autoconfirmed on the Archives before you will be allowed to upload your own images. You can find more information on this in the Archives.
I more or less learned how to edit by looking at what other articles looked like and viewing the source code. Viewing the source code is particularly useful when figuring out how templates are used. For now, you may find the Manual of style and the List of link templates helpful. I'm sure you've already noticed the Stubs, Articles needing improvement and Articles needing more information if you're looking for some pages that need help. Please let me know if you have any additional questions. Thanks! --ZestyCactus 13:48, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice! The main problem I had with the editor is the templates. Thanks for showing me the page to look at them, and I will try to use them and help out with any incomplete or stub articles! I checked the help on the navigation section that took me to a new website. I believe it was wikimedia and how to use its editor. That's about all of it and thanks again for the advice; it really helped!--Grass4Lyfe (talk) 16:28, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Black 2 & White 2 Chapter

Looks like VIZ is going to be bringing this out aside from the Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire chapter. Look at this [69]. I'll keep a lookout, as I am sure you will need a official picture for the cover of the first volume before you can post this as news. -Tyler53841 (talk) 12:57, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Oh cool :) nice to see VIZ Media finally releasing some regular length volumes XD so random though, cuz there's still only the one volume in Japanese?? Vol. 52 came out in Japan in 2014 and that's it XD oh well, anyway I think I will write a Bulbanews article anyway. Amazon is a reliable enough source. I've written pages without volume covers before :P thanks for the tip :P --ZestyCactus 04:12, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Ariano also deserves some of the credit, though I still would have found it on my own anyway as I did occasionally do searches on Amazon for it. -Tyler53841 (talk) 05:10, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Also an another minor note, if you can have the volume listing for ORAS's Viz releases along with Vol. 1 of that release and have an update done for ORAS's list of rounds table done before September, it will make my job easier when the volume comes out and I'll take care of it from there. You can take your time for this one as their is no rush. -Tyler53841 (talk) 05:21, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Titles in CD infoboxes

Hi, a few months have passed since my original question in Bulbapedia talk:Project Music. I wonder if you are able to help shed some light on this? Chenzw (talk) 02:47, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi there! The English title should take priority on CD articles, as seen in your example High Touch! / Surely Tomorrow. If you see any that are "backwards", please feel free to update the article. Thank you :) --ZestyCactus 03:06, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for the quick reply! I will go make the corrections as I see them :) Chenzw (talk) 03:08, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Giovanni's Beedrill

Is the page User:Rahl/Giovanni's Beedrill ready to be mainspaced? It is a main characters main Pokémon.--Rahl (talk) 14:53, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Arceus (Adventures)

Hi, is Arceus worth having an Adventures page?User:Animaltamer710:04, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't see why not. --ZestyCactus 16:42, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
It's finished.Animaltamer704:01, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Sun and Moon manga

Just came across this on Anime News Network [70] of a new Sun and Moon manga coming out next month and I think this one may be a separate series and has nothing to do with Pokémon Adventures. -Tyler53841 (talk) 19:10, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Red's Saur Vine Whip

In the beginning of the 12th chapter of the Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire is Red's Mega Venusaur using Vine Whip?--Rahl (talk) 19:13, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Did he call it out? When I checked the chapter, he didn't. I ask this, because, as I told you before, repeatedly: do not, under any circumstances, add a move unless it was explicitly called out by someone. It doesn't matter if it looks like a move, we do not assume unless it's outright stated. Ataro (talk) 19:46, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
Alright I will let it go though I would appreciate it if you answered the message I sent you about this next time.--Rahl (talk) 19:53, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Silver's Honchkrow

Is the page User:Rahl/Silver's Honchkrow ready to be mainspaced?--Rahl (talk) 19:12, 22 August 2016 (UTC)


Also is the page User:Rahl/Élec ready as well?--Rahl (talk) 03:20, 24 August 2016 (UTC)


Could you take care of creating the list of volumes for the Viz mini-volumes of the Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire chapter as well as the first volume. I'll take care of the rest when Vol. 1 does come out. -Tyler53841 (talk) 03:47, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

OK, I will do it tonight. --ZestyCactus 04:31, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Pseudo-legendary Pokémon manga section

Hi, I noticed that a manga section for the Pseudo-legendary Pokémon was missing as well as the Pokémon Origins section (although only Dragonite appeared in that medium). I would add the sections myself but the page is protected. I tried using the Pseudo-legendary Pokémon talk page but nothing happened so I'm going to you. Thanks in advance. PattyMan 17:15, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

A Bulbapedia staff member will have to add it in for you. You can put it on the talk page, or a user page, or email it to me and I can add it to the page for you. --ZestyCactus 04:31, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
I created a user page of the information, although it only has Pokémon Adventures listed as the manga at the moment. I still have the anime stuff listed. PattyMan 00:01, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
That's fine. Starting a section is still an improvement even if it has just Adventures for now. It's always expandable. :) --ZestyCactus 02:56, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Can we have a talk?

OK. I've been seeing this going on for some time and I'd like to give my two cents. For the past few months, I've seen users make articles and then ask you if they're ready for mainspacing. And once you look at them, you just mainspace it like that. While I don't have a problem with certain articles being made, I do have a problem with people just making the articles willy-nilly and then having them be made even though I see that some of them aren't that well made. Additionally, no one seems to ask for my input. I get that because of computer troubles, I'm not on as much as I'd like, but that's kind of rude. Can we at least try to settle to have people ask one of us of a thing deserves an article before the user starts to make it? Ataro (talk) 01:45, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Is your concern with the quality of the articles or the notability of the subject matter? The articles I've mainspaced typically follow the notability guidelines set out in the Manga manual of style. If you don't think these guidelines are satisfactory, then that's really something that we should work on updating (could also potentially add info to address any issues with sandboxing articles in the Manga MoS also). As for the quality of the articles, I don't believe an article has to be 100% perfect and complete before mainspacing. If the article is of a reasonably decent level of quality and completeness, I'd rather move it into the mainspace where readers may access it and other users can continue to improve it. I guess users keep coming to me because they're likely to get a faster response? I did notice that while the main project page and the Manga MoS has both our names on it, the Manga Pokémon page only had me listed from the olden days, I will update it to include us both, my apologies. --ZestyCactus 04:31, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Pokemon Pocket Comics Box Set

[71] Aside from the announcement of the Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire mini-volumes which we already announced, this article from Anime News Network has announced the upcoming release for the Pocket Comics Box Set, which does also have a picture in this article for it, so you can update the Manga box sets page with it. -Tyler53841 (talk) 14:34, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, I saw that in Diamond Previews also. Thanks for the reminder. --ZestyCactus 04:07, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Found some merchandises I can't identify

So hey, remember me? :P Anyway, my mom recently gave me some of my old Pokémon stuff from when I was a kid, and I got some figurines and a case that I can't identify. Since you love international stuff I thought you might be interested. MannedTooth (Talk) 21:06, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Hah, I don't know if it counts as "international" since I am also from Canada lol, but if you'd like send me a picture and I'll let you know if I know anything about them :P I'm always interested in merchandise. --ZestyCactus 04:07, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
I just remember I asked for you help but haven't given a sign of life since then. Here are some images. There is also a tag proving that's it's official. MannedTooth (Talk) 03:09, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
Oh, neat, I've seen those type of cases before but I don't know who makes them lol. There's like a gazillion cases out there. If I ever attempted an article on carrying cases I could for sure at least use your picture ^^ --ZestyCactus 05:41, 19 September 2016 (UTC)


Check out my contributions to the new release today including the nickname for Sapphire's new Pokémon. Also check this source out from Anime News Network [[72]]. -Tyler53841 (talk) 03:06, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Anyway the news source confirms the end of the ORAS chapter that should be noted on Bulbanews. -Tyler53841 (talk) 03:47, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, I agree. I guess they wanted to wrap up the story before Sun and Moon comes out lol --ZestyCactus 03:56, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
Also on another note, if Viz's ORAS Vol. 2's titles are turn out the same as what happened in Vol. 1 which is very likely, and the site is still on lockdown when it comes out, then you can probably handle it on your own unlike what happened before with the FRLG chapters when I sent you the english titles via forums. I send you a quick note on the forums if you like. -Tyler53841 (talk) 04:04, 7 September 2016 (UTC)


On the archives, left another message relating to GIFs. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) 05:57, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Replied. I know it is kind of strange to have two talks going about the same subject but I rather have discussions relevant to a particular part of Bulbapedia (archives) stay there and just have alerts be mentioned on the main Wiki when a reply is made. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) 19:57, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
It's really not necessary to have two talk conversations going at the same time for the same subject. You are correct that Archives-related discussions should stay on the Archives. I do receive email alerts when I get a new Archives talk page comment.... you'd only really need to poke me on here if there's been a long period of non-response (particularly if I've been otherwise active). --ZestyCactus 04:28, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Adventures Pokemon

Are the pages User:Rahl/Don, User:Rahl/Lack-Two's Dewott, User:Rahl/Fofo, User:Rahl/Silver's Ursaring, User:Rahl/Sudobo, User:Rahl/Troppy, User:Rahl/Sunbo, and User:Rahl/Parasee ready to be mainspaced?--Rahl (talk) 13:56, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Wow that is a lot of articles! I will get to looking through them in the next few days for sure ^^' I don't really have time to do so today but just wanted to acknowledge i've seen your message :P --ZestyCactus 02:11, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Hey it has been a while and I was wondering where you stood on the remaining pages.--Rahl (talk) 16:46, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
Hi! Sorry for the delay. I'm going to go ahead and mainspace Don and Silver's Ursaring. I'm going to pass on Sunbo (as you can see further up my talk page, the character was previously declined by me and Ataro due to non-notability), Sudobo and Parasee. --ZestyCactus 04:21, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
Alright, thank you very much.--Rahl (talk) 04:22, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Pokémon boardgames infobox

Hey ! :) I've recently came upon this idea of revamping the Pokémon boardgames pages by updating the stuff, adding the boxes' blurbs, the content, etc. I wanted to know if it's possible to create an infobox for these articles. It would include the name of the game, a picture of the whole game, the year or released in different regions, the number of pieces, the publisher, etc. I would make sure it's well made and everything. I saw that the boardgames pages are kinda "empty" and I wanted to revamp them ! I'd be so glad to be given this task ! :3 MannedTooth (Talk) 17:50, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

If you want to make a prototype in your userspace, I will consider it. Remember that "board games" is a broad category and each game can vary wildly (Guess That Pokémon is absolutely not similar to Pokémon Monopoly or Pokémon Master Trainer). Be sure to review all the articles in Board games to ensure that you can make a template that actually makes sense for the wide variety of games out there. Also consider there may be more games out there that don't have articles yet... I've seen a modern Johto Monopoly version floating around in EB Games and in hobby shops. So that would be something that requires research as well. --ZestyCactus 02:08, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
I'm more than willing to put time and effort into researching the board games ! :) MannedTooth (Talk) 02:16, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
Based myself on the CD template, here is what it looks like. It' pretty basic but I don't think we need much more. By the way, am I allowed to take pictures found on ebay/amazon of the games? MannedTooth (Talk) 05:54, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
I would avoid images taken from eBay as they are likely to have been taken by the seller themselves. Stock artwork from Amazon is okay as long as it is stock and not a user uploaded image. (This is the same as with things like DVD and manga cover artwork). Generally we'd prefer to have images that are created by the user who is uploading them unless it's something completely generic like game/CD/DVD/manga/book cover artwork that's the same stock image anywhere.
Your template is off to a good start... I would remove the "original game" parameter as it doesn't really apply to too many games (I think it only really applies to Monopoly and Yahtzee as they are licensed variants, remember that "Pokémon On a Roll" is not actually a license of Yahtzee and "Guess That Pokémon" is not actually a license of Guess Who?, it's just a similar concept). I would also suggest dumping the barcode number as I think it's kind of pointless lol. I'm okay with "number of pieces" but it would have to be specific and not just a random each game is different, just listing the number of different pieces is kind of pointless. Using Monopoly for example, this parameter could be used to name how many player tokens, how many dice (die?), how many houses and hotels come with the game, number of chance and community chest cards, number of property cards, etc. Everything else seems fairly legit. --ZestyCactus 01:39, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
Okay for the images! As for the original game parameter, I think it would be nice to mention it, I would put "None" on games not based on other or even just not show up that line in the infobox. As for the number of pieces, it's the same principle as when buying Legos, on the box there is always the number of pieces so I thought that would be sweet, the contents of the game would be listed in details in its own section. Lastly, for the barcode number, I was basing myself on the same thing that books have since it's supposed to be unique (ISBN or something like that). Anyway, I don't care much about that last parameter, I was just trying to add the more info I could. I'm going to work on Monopoly: Pokémon Edition (1999) and you can tell me what you think of the "final result". Thanks! :3 MannedTooth (Talk) 19:36, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
Lego and board games aren't comparable. It's not necessary to list the number of pieces as one lump sum - it doesn't really mean anything. The only way I would really consider it is if it's followed by a breakdown, for example: Pieces: 15 (5 xxxx pieces, 5 yyyy pieces, 5 zzzz pieces).
Again, I don't really think there's any point to adding the "original game" in the infobox since it applies to less than half of the board games currently in the category... and they're literally only the Monopoly and Yahtzee variants... it can be explained in the opening section of the article that it's a licensed variant of an existing game. I think adding it to the infobox would only be for the sake of filling space and doesn't really improve the article. Same with the barcode numbers. ISBNs are helpful because they can be used to easily locate a book in a database or online shopping site. Barcode numbers aren't as practical for locating items (and remember that books have separate barcode and ISBN numbers, too, if it was important we'd have listed both from the beginning). --ZestyCactus 22:54, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
So, long story short, I shall remove original game, number of pieces (since there is a content category) and the bar code? Apart from that, how is the template, ready to be used? MannedTooth (Talk) 00:05, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Yeah should be good after that. --ZestyCactus 00:47, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Mitsumi's Infernape

Is User:Pattyman/Mitsumi's Infernape ready for the mainspace? PattyMan 00:36, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

New Cover Images Images

The covers for Viz's releases of their first volume of Black and White 2 (aka Volume 52) and Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire have been revealed. -Tyler53841 (talk) 17:13, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Help I Cant Find A Page

Hi My Name is hasseb I am from pakistan. I am creating a pokémon hack. I Need Information On Move Re-Learner. But I cant find an appropriate page for this info so can you plzz direct me in the right direction. It will be very kind of you. - unsigned comment from Zadihasseb (talkcontribs)

You'd be looking for the Move Reminder. glikglak 13:16, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Giovanni's Template (Adventures)

Since Giovanni in Adventures has three Pokémon with pages should he get his own template? If so I can make one.--Rahl (talk) 05:15, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

I wouldn't bother making one. It's not really worthwhile unfortunately. Sorry for my slow reply. --ZestyCactus 04:52, 14 October 2016 (UTC)


Is the page User:Rahl/Zeller ready to be mainspaced?--Rahl (talk) 04:23, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm going to pass on this one as I don't believe the character is notable enough for an article of his own. Regardless, I'd also like to pass down a friendly reminder to proofread your articles for spelling and grammar before submitting them for mainspacing. In particular, please remember that "Poké Ball" is spelled as two words, as a proper noun and with the accented e, not as "Pokeball" (as you had it on the article), "Poke ball" "Pokéball" and "Poké ball" would also be incorrect. There were also a few sentences I found confusing due to a lack of punctuation (commas, etc). I don't mind helping you proofread grammar and punctuation (apparently I have an eye for that stuff...) but I'm not going to bother with this one since I don't think it's notable anyway lol. --ZestyCactus 05:38, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
Alright I understand. Thanks for taking the time to look at it.--Rahl (talk) 11:49, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Zinnia Salamence

So before I bother to make the page is Zinnia's Salamence good enough to get a page? It has a lot of importance with Ruby and Sapphire.--Rahl (talk) 16:26, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Yeah that should be fine. --ZestyCactus 01:58, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
The page is ready.--Rahl (talk) 03:00, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Legendary duo pages

Is it alright if the legendary duos each get their own pages like the legendary trios?Animaltamer704:28, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Tower duo and Eon duo already have pages. I suppose the "lunar duo" and "mortality duo" could have their own pages as well if someone were to make one. --ZestyCactus 03:15, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
Lunar duo, Mortality duo and Sea guardians are done, Mew duo is almost complete, I just need to finish the move table, which I'll finish it later.Animaltamer709:14, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Mew duo page is done.Animaltamer703:07, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Zygarde (Adventures) proofreading

Hi, although this probably isn't ready for mainspacing now (maybe when the other formes appear in the SuMo pokespe chapter), can you help me proof read it?Animaltamer710:59, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Creation trio (Adventures)

Is it ok for the creation trio to get an Adventures page?Animaltamer705:50, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

And probably the Tower duo as well?Animaltamer701:57, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
Creation trio would be okay I guess since they impacted the plot of three different chapters (especially Giratina's involvement in the Platinum arc). The existing section on the creation trio page is kinda crummy anyway so it would need some expansion regardless. I don't really think Tower duo is worth it though. They don't do anything significant other than what's already outlined on the page, right? I feel like making a separate page would just move over the existing content (which isn't taking up a disproportionate amount of room on the article) and then just a bunch of templates and stuff that would basically be filler. --ZestyCactus 05:31, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Legendary Birds

Is the page User:Rahl/Legendary birds (Adventures) good enough for a page? Thu-Fi-Zer could be converted into it as well.--Rahl (talk) 20:00, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

Sure, I will mainspace it tonight. Thu-Fi-Zer will be merged in as that was a condition of the topic's notability. --ZestyCactus 05:31, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
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