Fanon
Lati@s is a popular fanon term
Fanon is an unconfirmed belief held by fans of a series.
How can such a term be fanon? - Jshadias 04:32, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
>Erm, because the game never revers to them as Lati@s? That's what I assumed, anyways. It's a name made for them by the fans. - Zeta - unsigned comment from Zeta (talk • contribs)
If it's a term made up by fans, how is it an "unconfirmed belief"? - Jshadias 05:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
>My point is that it's a fan creation, something that is usually associated fanon. And I guess you could say that it's "unconfirmed" because it's not official terminology. I don't know how you'd define it as a belief though. - Zeta - unsigned comment from Zeta (talk • contribs)
Move
I agree with SnorlaxMoster. Move it to Eon duo, its more formal and looks better than Lati@s. Anyone agree? Disagree? Opinions? ~たかはりい 09:36, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- I prefer something like "Legendary eons" really. I never really liked using trio, etc. for the legendaries. tc²₆tc26 10:30, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- "Legendary eons" just sounds weird; they're not "eons", they're the eon Pokémon. In some cases I agree that Trio, Duo, etc. don't work too well (such as with the Musketeer Trio/Quartet), but in this case I think Eon Duo would be an appropriate page title. Lati@s ought to just be a trivia note. --AndyPKMN (talk) 11:54, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Considering the general gist is that almost all "titles" we stick the legendaries under are fanon, Lati@s is highly appropriate. The fact it doesn't look nice or symmetrical with the rest should not be a factor, simple because these names are what people call them on a daily basis. No one calls them the "legendary eons", and "Eon duo" is grossly less used than Lati@s (1,600 google returns vs 7,000,000+). They are Lati@s to the fandom. I do not approve of a move simply to sate a more "official look". Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 12:39, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- The Legendary duo page lists them as the Eon Duo. And by your logic, why do we use Legendary Beasts (~2,800,000 Google results) when Legendary Dogs has far more results (~12,000,000). We've moved these sorts of pages based on what makes more sense before (such as with the horribly named "Raijin Trio") and I don't see why we couldn't do so here as well. --AndyPKMN (talk) 17:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, Legendary Dogs has 172,000 return hits and Legendary Beasts has 240,000 hits on Google (Beasts win). Quotation marks = more accurate searches. The Kami trio was also in its infancy (hell, I was there), and any of the terms flying around were in short use so we could basically do what we wanted; same goes for the Taos/Musketeers. But going to change terminology that's been in play since, what 2004? Seven years? That's like renaming Smogon's tier system. And "Lati@s" is no footnote or trivia bit, either. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 18:56, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- My bad; can't believe I forgot quotation marks. Nonetheless, I think Eon duo would be a better name for the page, and I do think that professionalism should take priority over popularity in a case like this. But obviously I'm in the minority, and I'm willing to accept that. --AndyPKMN (talk) 20:02, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- "Lati@s" is just as professional and encyclopedic as "Eon duo" by all technical accounts, given how both are not official terms in the slightest. Just because one has an @ symbol and isn't as uniform next to the other legendary blanket terms we (as a fandom) allotted doesn't mean we should change it, otherwise we'd say "screw canon" and change Lake Guardians back to "lake/pixie/whathaveyou trio" to command uniformity. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 20:45, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- Eon Duo sounds a lot better than Lati@s, How do you even say "Lati@s" Truthseeker4449 21:57, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
- I have to agree with Truth Seeker on pronounciation; how do you even say that? Anyway, I have to vote to keep it where it is, because even with a redirect it would be more considerate towards the Pokémon fanbase in general to use Lati@s, because people are familiar with it. I think it would help Bulbapedia's popularity/hits/PageRank/whatever people rate websites with nowadays in regards to search engine data, cleanliness, and basically because it's the one used most. Why move the entire page just because of a silly little "@" sign that we see in our e-mail programs every day? —AlexTheRose 22:01, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
- "Latias and Latios" got 1,040,000 results on Google, while "Lati@s" got 14,600,000 results. Unless I can't read right, "Lati@s" wins. Truthseeker4449 21:43, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
- Neither is an official name, so it's not like we're forgoing an official name for the "more common" one (that's silly). I figure we should leave it where it is... we could always make a redirect for "Eon duo", even though i know no one who calls them that. --ZestyCactus 21:51, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
- I have always called them either the Eon Duo or just Latias and/or Latios. Execpt here, I have never called them "Lati@s" --Truthseeker4449 22:25, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
- To me, Lati@s means "Latias and/or Latios", while eon duo means "Latias and Latios". This is how I have always seen the terms used as well. Ignoring the fact that Lati@s is essentially a contraction and therefore informal, it is much more logical to name them consistently with all of the other legendary groups. Eon duo is much more common when discussing Latios and Latias in comparison to other legendary groups. It is very rare, as well as strange, to find someone talk about "The Lunar duo and Lati@s". Lati@s is generally used for discussing the pair competitively, since "and/or" is generally what is desired here. --SnorlaxMonster 02:36, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
- I have always called them either the Eon Duo or just Latias and/or Latios. Execpt here, I have never called them "Lati@s" --Truthseeker4449 22:25, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
- Neither is an official name, so it's not like we're forgoing an official name for the "more common" one (that's silly). I figure we should leave it where it is... we could always make a redirect for "Eon duo", even though i know no one who calls them that. --ZestyCactus 21:51, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
- "Latias and Latios" got 1,040,000 results on Google, while "Lati@s" got 14,600,000 results. Unless I can't read right, "Lati@s" wins. Truthseeker4449 21:43, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
- I have to agree with Truth Seeker on pronounciation; how do you even say that? Anyway, I have to vote to keep it where it is, because even with a redirect it would be more considerate towards the Pokémon fanbase in general to use Lati@s, because people are familiar with it. I think it would help Bulbapedia's popularity/hits/PageRank/whatever people rate websites with nowadays in regards to search engine data, cleanliness, and basically because it's the one used most. Why move the entire page just because of a silly little "@" sign that we see in our e-mail programs every day? —AlexTheRose 22:01, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
- Eon Duo sounds a lot better than Lati@s, How do you even say "Lati@s" Truthseeker4449 21:57, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
- "Lati@s" is just as professional and encyclopedic as "Eon duo" by all technical accounts, given how both are not official terms in the slightest. Just because one has an @ symbol and isn't as uniform next to the other legendary blanket terms we (as a fandom) allotted doesn't mean we should change it, otherwise we'd say "screw canon" and change Lake Guardians back to "lake/pixie/whathaveyou trio" to command uniformity. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 20:45, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- My bad; can't believe I forgot quotation marks. Nonetheless, I think Eon duo would be a better name for the page, and I do think that professionalism should take priority over popularity in a case like this. But obviously I'm in the minority, and I'm willing to accept that. --AndyPKMN (talk) 20:02, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, Legendary Dogs has 172,000 return hits and Legendary Beasts has 240,000 hits on Google (Beasts win). Quotation marks = more accurate searches. The Kami trio was also in its infancy (hell, I was there), and any of the terms flying around were in short use so we could basically do what we wanted; same goes for the Taos/Musketeers. But going to change terminology that's been in play since, what 2004? Seven years? That's like renaming Smogon's tier system. And "Lati@s" is no footnote or trivia bit, either. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 18:56, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- Lati@s is the stupidest thing I've ever read, pardon my French. I agree fully with SM's points, and I don't believe that fan terms should gain such purchase as exists here. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 07:39, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- Stepping in to point out that Lati@s is as much a fan term as is "Eon duo" and still used much more extensively, so yeah, you're rooting for one fan term over another. (I also don't like the idea of us deciding to change popular terminology to more uniform terminology just because it simply is more uniform. As much as we can control what future groups are termed, I don't think we should even remotely try to bend older terms to our authority.) Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 12:30, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- Lati@s is the stupidest thing I've ever read, pardon my French. I agree fully with SM's points, and I don't believe that fan terms should gain such purchase as exists here. Toon Ganondorf (t c) 07:39, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Worth noting Mega forms??
since knowledge+access to the lati's mega stones is now widespred (thanks to action replay codes), i think its time that we pull our heads out of the ground and aknowledge the existance of their mega evolutions(with notes stating they havent been reveald officially by Nintendo yet) i've done minor modifications of latios+latias's article intro text and worked out their bst. --The Truth aka Relicant 21:46, 21 February 2014 (UTC)