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Take into account that this is just a proof of concept, so of course there'll be things that need to be corrected. '''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 01:19, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
Take into account that this is just a proof of concept, so of course there'll be things that need to be corrected. '''[[User:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#008800">h</span><span style="color:#000000">fc</span>]][[User talk:Hfc2x|<span style="color:#000000">2</span><span style="color:#008800">X</span>]]''' 01:19, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
:That's actually an interesting idea. I hadn't given this specific issue much thought, but now that I think about it, it can get pretty confusing.
:I do think we should tackle this somehow, and having separete tables (when necessary) may just work. However, I don't think there would be enough content for each single subpage, and many of them would end up being redundant.
:I would suggest we instead have all tables on the ability page itself, but only show the most recent one by default and have the others hidden under a hide/show button (it's not really necessary to hide them, I just think it would keep the page easier to read). We would also only need to add more tables if there was enough change between generatios to justify it. For example, if no Pokémon had changes to their abilities from one generation to the next (or if all that happened was that Pokémon from the new generation now have the ability), or if they only had a hidden ability added from gen IV to gen V, a single table could easily cover these two generations. [[User:Suic12-|Suic]] ([[User talk:Suic12-|talk]]) 14:41, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

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Update

Could someone please add a column for the Mega Evolution ability? And here as well? オリナル TheOriginalOne 13:31, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

We're going to update all of the templates around the same time so we can keep track of everything more efficiently. --Pokemaster97 20:22, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Generation differences subpages

Shouldn't this template be divided into generations? Because as it is now, it's super confusing and messy, and handling accuracy by adding a note at the footer of each ability table in the articles makes it very confusing to determine what's true or not for a given game.

With this in mind, I came up with something like the learnsets template for showing 100% accurate tables for each generation, which would be much better and orderly. Something like this could go in the main article for a given ability:

Generation VII
Other generations:
III - IV - V - VI 
# Pokémon Types First Ability Second Ability Hidden Ability
Gloom Gloom Grass Poison Chlorophyll None Stench
Grimer Grimer Poison Poison Stench Sticky Hold Poison Touch
Muk Muk Poison Poison Stench Sticky Hold Poison Touch
Stunky Stunky Poison Dark Stench Aftermath Keen Eye
Skuntank Skuntank Poison Dark Stench Aftermath Keen Eye
Trubbish Trubbish Poison Poison Stench Sticky Hold Aftermath
Garbodor Garbodor Poison Poison Stench Weak Armor Aftermath

And this other can go in the subpages (this one can be used for both Gen III and IV):

Generation IV
Other generations:
III - V - VI - VII
# Pokémon Types First Ability Second Ability
Shellder Shellder Water Water Shell Armor Skill Link None
Cloyster Cloyster Water Ice Shell Armor Skill Link None
Krabby Krabby Water Water Hyper Cutter Shell Armor None
Kingler Kingler Water Water Hyper Cutter Shell Armor None
Lapras Lapras Water Ice Water Absorb Shell Armor None
Omanyte Omanyte Rock Water Swift Swim Shell Armor None
Omastar Omastar Rock Water Swift Swim Shell Armor None

Take into account that this is just a proof of concept, so of course there'll be things that need to be corrected. hfc2X 01:19, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

That's actually an interesting idea. I hadn't given this specific issue much thought, but now that I think about it, it can get pretty confusing.
I do think we should tackle this somehow, and having separete tables (when necessary) may just work. However, I don't think there would be enough content for each single subpage, and many of them would end up being redundant.
I would suggest we instead have all tables on the ability page itself, but only show the most recent one by default and have the others hidden under a hide/show button (it's not really necessary to hide them, I just think it would keep the page easier to read). We would also only need to add more tables if there was enough change between generatios to justify it. For example, if no Pokémon had changes to their abilities from one generation to the next (or if all that happened was that Pokémon from the new generation now have the ability), or if they only had a hidden ability added from gen IV to gen V, a single table could easily cover these two generations. Suic (talk) 14:41, 6 July 2020 (UTC)