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Instead of editing a page several times in a row, try using the preview button to make sure your edit looks the way you want it to. It's right next to the Save Page button. Please try it out, so as not to clog up the Recent Changes. Also, if you want to edit multiple sections of the page, make sure that you click "edit this page" at the top of the page rather than editing it by section. Thanks! --Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:12, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I am used to editing my own pages rather than community pages. Samcarano (talk) 18:07, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Just a bit of an addendum, you don't need to edit sections separately in order to add the images for each separately, you can just click "edit this page" at the top of the page when they're all uploaded so you only have to save once. If you want to check things or something, remember that you can always use preview without saving. In the meantime, it's just cleaner if you can add them all in one edit. Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:58, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Topps

Hi! I noticed you added a lot of information to some of the Topps pages. I was kind of wondering about some things, though.

I haven't taken it all in yet, so I'll just start with the thing currently foremost in my mind. You mentioned a "rouge printing". Firstly, did you possibly mean "rogue"? And can you explain a bit more about what characterizes this printing, and about what makes it unique? (Is there a very specific reason that it's called "rouge" or "rogue"?) Also, was it printed by the US branch? Tiddlywinks (talk) 11:08, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi. Is this where I am supposed to talk at? I don't really quite understand how to contact users here.
I plan on adding a lot more information on these sets. Yea looks like I spelled rogue incorrectly. That's just what a few of us topps collectors were calling that set. It didn't really seem like an intended set since each US printing logo progression brought with it a new debossing pattern. This set is different because the logo is black but instead of having the associated debossing(rays,sandpaper) it's smooth like the blue logo set before it. It's kind of in between or an error set or who knows really. It has an oval Nintendo logo so that should mean that it was produced in the US but it doesn't seem to have been released here which is another reason it's kind of a weird set. I have my set and was able to find them only in Europe, specifically The Netherlands.
On another note, how do I get image upload privileges? I have almost every topps card and would like to add scans and more accurate information for all the sets. - unsigned comment from Samcarano (talkcontribs)
Yes, when someone contacts you, you can just respond to them in the same place. If you need to contact someone where there's no conversation yet, you can use their talk page (the page title will start with "User talk:" like your page here) and click the "+" button at the top by "edit this page". (To get another thing out of the way, remember to sign your comments at the end like it says in your welcome template above. But don't try to re-sign your previous comment here. Do give a quick check to all the stuff up there, too.)
That's interesting about the "rogue" set. I'm not sure that's a great name for here on a wiki, but I'll mull that over. Thanks.
The Archives have requirements to become autoconfirmed just like Bulbapedia does here. It just turns out that's a little more noticeable on the Archives (but it's also a little more important). Basically find some stuff that needs some editing there if you can (I know it's around, even though it was a bit of work when I first went looking myself). If you're going to upload card scans, there's also some basic requirements. I'm not sure where they might be written at the moment, but they shouldn't be that hard (making sure to use PNG files may be the biggest thing to make sure of). I'll let you know as soon as I can, though. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:28, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. Samcarano (talk) 16:39, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

(resetting indent) I've got a few more questions (or considerations) for you.

Let's start off with, first, on the Pokémon Johto Series 3 page you created, you wrote, "the Topps UK/Argentina branch". Are they actually the same branch? Or were you just kind of writing shorthand? In a similar vein, in the info you added on the Pokémon Trading Cards series 2 page, you only mentioned the UK branch, but you mentioned a Spanish version (which on the series 1 page you attributed to the Argentina branch). (Also, to go on a sort of tangent: how do you know there are "UK" and "Argentina" branches specifically?)

Second, I don't really think we actually need a "Johto Series 3" page. It's a strict subset of the US Johto series 1 cards, right? If so, it can just be described on that page, it's not really that special. If anything would warrant that it'd be the (presumably) UK/etc "series 2" set—but I think creating separate pages for those other language versions mostly just complicates things and just writing about those on the other current pages is more straightforward.

A last (for now) and little thing: why did you capitalize "series" in the pages you've created? Do you know of a context (that's official) where the set name is used in the middle of a sentence (i.e., not somewhere where absolutely every word is capitalized) and "series" is actually capitalized? If all we can go by is how the packs and stuff spell the name in an unadulterated title context...I admit, it's at least arguable what "should" be used, but since we currently have pages already using lowercase, we should probably be doing that for other pages for consistency. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:43, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

I can go back and make these references more consistent and explicit. The branches are addressed on the boxes and the empty albums that are released with the products. Samcarano (talk) 01:22, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
The johto series 3 comes in different packs and boxes with the set designation on them. There are different cards in this set although they are almost like reproductions of cards from other sets. It is similar to the UK released series 1 and series 2, I suppose. It could go either way really rather having one or two pages is more straightforward. I had planned on adding scans of the backs of the cards as well which would be kind of difficult to do in the same table as the johto series 1. I could add a second table on the johto series 1 page. As well there are cards that are not in the johto series 1 set. It's hard to be consistent. Comparing the UK to US sets: The series 1 has the same set name and same checklist, series 2 has the same set name but different checklist, series 3 has different set name and different checklist. Samcarano (talk) 01:22, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
I was going off of exactly what the boxes say. I originally tried to change all of the titles to fit the correct wording on the box cover because that is the most accurate place to get the title from. I didn't realize that the titles were links to the actual pages so that didn't work. Here is a list of what I think all of the sets should be names based off of the box covers.
Pokémon Gotta catch 'em all! TOPPS TRADING CARDS, Some say OFFICIAL TRADING CARDS instead
Pokémon Topps Trading Cards SERIES 2
Pokémon TOPPS TRADING CARDS SERIES 3
Pokémon THE FIRST MOVIE TOPPS TRADING CARDS
Pokémon The Movie 2000
Pokémon ADVANCED CHALLENGE TRADING CARDS
Pokémon ADVANCED TRADING CARDS
Pokémon Johto League Champions
Pokémon JOHTO SERIES 1
Pokémon JOHTO SERIES 3
Pokémon Chrome Trading Cards Series 1
Pokémon Chrome Trading Cards Series 2
I think the werid capitalization of words is a little strange so I would vote to just capitalize the first letter of each word. It is the most clean looking. I have pictures of all of the things that I state so as not to make assumptions. If you would like any of this information please let me know. I still haven't got upload privileges. It seems that what you were referring to is clear to me now. The archives have a different edit count limit. I don't really have any interest in editing anything over there. I would just like to improve the topps section as that is what I focus on. Is there no way to override this?Samcarano (talk) 01:22, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
There isn't really even anything to edit in the archives. Samcarano (talk) 02:27, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
(Replies should go entirely at the end of a discussion, not interspersed where it's just "convenient" to put them. Bulbapedia prefers such a strictly chronological order.)
Okay, I thought "Johto Series 3" was another name you made up (at least in part, perhaps) like "rogue", but since it's not, I suppose it's okay with its own page. The UK/etc series 2 set is still interesting...but I suppose for now we can describe it on the pages for the US sets.
As far as the titles: the boxes certainly aren't in any sort of sentence case...but thinking about it more, I suppose these are pretty clearly set titles, so title case does actually make sense. (If that seems obvious, sorry; it often comes up here that some random term could be assumed to be capitalized—but we can't assume that. I kind of had my wires crossed, in short.) That said...I still think we should maintain consistency, one way or the other... (FWIW, it's also a huge assumption to say that the box has the most accurate form of the title. What you put for the series 1 title should illustrate that very well all by itself. There's a good handful of different ways that some of the sets are described differently in different contexts. I would say that the only thing that could be really "accurate" would be an order form or invoice or something for shops that actually bought the cards.)
For the Archives, I'm not sure if a direct override is possible. But if you just want to make a gallery on some site or upload a ZIP somewhere, someone else could simply do the uploads as a sort of "proxy" for you. But, myself, I didn't exactly "want" to do other things either when I discovered I couldn't just upload at the Archives; but if you really want to upload there, then you can put in some time to find a bit to do. There's a whole to-do list, as well as a Category:Pages needing attention. Tiddlywinks (talk) 04:10, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
I don't really see how it's that huge of an assumption to take what's printed on the box as the set title. The topps company typically prints the title directly on the box. An order form could just have something abbreviated for convenience. Either way I don't seem to have the capability to change page titles.
Like I said, the "series 1" "title" should obviously be...well, ridiculous. If every reference to the set was completely consistent, there wouldn't be any problem, but, like I also said: it's not, it's different in different contexts. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:49, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
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