Talk:Cosmoem (Pokémon)

Jp name

Just throwing this out there, everything I've seen says that Cosmovum is not its official Japanese name, there are no characters that'd indicate a "v" being in there. Cosmovum is however its French and German name. --TheMaskedMeowth (talk) 07:19, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

The trademark filing romanizes it as "Cosmovum". --Abcboy (talk) 09:13, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Eye design

Anyone else think that Cosmoem's design also incorporates a stylized eye? (Gold as the sclera, blue for the iris, black for the pupil.) Would that be worth including in the description or design sections? Luprand (talk) 04:10, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

That's what I've always seen :P Nutter Butter (talk) 04:15, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Evolution

Re: this edit: Any old Cosmoem can't do it. Just Nebby during the storyline. That's the whole point of trying to avoid implying that players can evolve other Cosmoem that way. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 00:55, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Let's think outside of player gameplay for a moment.

If two people brought any Cosmoem to the Altar of the Sunne/Moone and played the Sun/Moon Flutes, reasonably, that Cosmoem would evolve. (It's possible there could be other factors, but there's also nothing in particular to base that on at this time.)

Now, within the context of player gameplay: Lillie always has one of the flutes, so aside from that one point in the story, it is impossible to do. The way it's phrased does not imply that it's possible any other time, because at no time do you possess both flutes. (Cheating not withstanding.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 01:05, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Trivia-worthy (?)

Is it worth mentioning this Pokémon is the only one whose next evolution depends purely on which version they are in? --^Takeru_Davis ^[1] 19:14, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

We're counting Lycanroc as a split evo so I don't think so. ----Celadonkey 22:59, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Fair point, although that one is still the same Pokémon, just different circumstances giving different form, while this makes a whole different species. --^Takeru_Davis ^[1] 04:22, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

I'd ask one of the mods, see what they have to say. ----Celadonkey 12:04, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Biology facts

Are there any special abilities or Triats Cosmoem has that were mentioned like Cosmog?--Jacob Kogan (talk) 17:44, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

If there are, we don't know them. --Celad onkey 17:56, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Jacob9594, the second paragraph of Biology sections is created by rephrasing the information from Pokedex entries in one's own words. It's as simple as that. If you want it done, the easiest way to ensure it's done is to do it yourself. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 18:00, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Density

I think it should be worth the mention that Cosmoem is the densest Pokemon in the universe.

Given its "only a head" body type and assuming it is a perfect solid sphere .1m in diameter and 999.9kg in mass, it has a density of 1,923,000 kg/m^3. This is almost 13 times the density of the core of the sun (at 150,000 kg/m^3).

Of course, Cosmoem is not a perfect sphere; it has a slightly elliptical shape, similar to Earth's orbit around the sun. Assuming its width (across side to side) is the same as its height (.1m) and its length (front to back), which is really the diameter of the blue orb, is closer to .05m, the math changes a bit. For a solid ellipsoid at those measurements, Cosmoem clocks at a density of 3,819,000 kg/m^3, about 25 times the solar core.

But the reality is that Cosmoem isn't a solid ellipsoid. In fact, a large portion of its elliptical shape is empty space, the gaps between its thin crests. So most of its mass is undoubtedly concentrated in its blue orb, a sphere with an apparent diameter of .05m. Therefore, as a solid sphere with the previous measurements, Cosmoem packs a density of a whopping 15,380,000 kg/m^3. This is 102 times the solar core density or .015 times the density of a white dwarf. --PentiumFallen (talk) 16:39, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

All of this math is speculation — only slightly, but speculation nonetheless. You can't say for certain you know the dimensions of any Pokemon: height and weight are literally all we're given for any of them. That makes density trivia speculative for any Pokemon, period. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 16:45, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

The math is speculation that reinforces the fact. Cosmoem is the densest Pokemon being about the size of a tennis ball but weighing over a ton. Just thought it would be nice to mention somewhere. --PentiumFallen (talk) 16:59, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

You're assuming things though. Unless we know the volume, we can't know the density for sure. Any of the math without a proper volume could be incorrect and is speculation. Speculation has no place on wikis. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 17:22, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Generation VIII

Have any of the same dataminers who dug up the bottom section on Gdex figured out how Cosmoem evolves in Galar? Giratina's Embodiment - Please don't hurt us... 22:59, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure (but I might be wrong) Cosmoem evolves into Solgaleo at level 53 in Pokémon Sword and Lunala at level 53 in Pokémon Shield. --TotallyTob 01:28, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

"pretty sure (but I might be wrong)"

Aaand that would be why I was talking to the dataminers. Unless something's changed in the few years since I was doing any serious editing, speculation is to remain nonexistent. If the hackers can't find the flags, we'll have to wait for HOME to come out and hope that the Pokémon with Galar dex entries but no numbers are in fact permissible to be transferred in. Giratina's Embodiment - Please don't hurt us... 04:41, 7 January 2020 (UTC)