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What happens if you try to Pal Park B óË ÁN to Diamond/Pearl? --Shiny Noctowl File:376MS.gifFind the secret page!File:224MS.gif The oboe is the best instrument ever! 17:25, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I think it's in-battle only, judging from the video (due to not being able to do anything after it appears). --DarkfireTaimatsu 19:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
I saw it in the credits sequence for Ruby and Sapphire when I cheated my way into the Hall of Fame without a single monster. --Kyoufu Kawa 15:52, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
You can't Pal Park B óË ÁN to D/P. B óË ÁN is a battle only glitch pokmon. Zsaberslash 20:21, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


By the way B óË ÁN is only sent out if the player is using the "Always Your Turn" Gameshark code. From experience "In order to encounter B óË ÁN, first the player enters the Gameshark codes "Always your turn" and "Infinite PP" and catches a Caterpie. Then after evolving it into a Metapod, he/she has to use the Metapod against Brock with the Gameshark codes switched on. He/she has to make the Metapod use Tackle once, and the game should automatically switch out to B óË ÁN." This isn't completely true, the glitch works with any pokemon and attack and trainer. The only requirement is the code. Zsaberslash 20:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


We can find out more about this glitch if we can find its hexadecimal identifier (if you used an encounter code its the XXXX you have to replace) What happens if you use the Always Your Turn code on Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire then switch? - User:Chickasaurus

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Can anyone else see it? --ニョロトノ666 00:54, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

i cant. -- MAGNEDETH 00:57, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
see what? - unsigned comment from Pikaboy27 (talkcontribs)
Again, don't forget to sign and don't reply to old discussions. They were referring to an image which was malfunctioning at the time. --SnorlaxMonster 07:03, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

???-type

If the game freezes when this glitch is sent out, how is it known to be ???-type? ???-type does not mean "unknown type", it's a specific glitch type. Ketsuban 05:41, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Possible way to find out it's info

Ok so my idea is:

Get B óË ÁN to be sent out and use an emulator save state. Then hack your position on the map with Pokésav or similar. Could this work? Although it may not appear in the party. OwnageMuch 05:20, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

This could work to find its index number if you compared the byte which determined which Pokemon was sent out with any ordinary Pokemon's index number. From that we can apply it to say an encounter code or pokemon in party code and find out more information about it.

B óË ÁN might already occupy an already known glitch Pokemon though such as ?????????? however, just with a glitched animation being called. There are many variations of ?????????? with names which are based on other moves such as one called 'KICK' as in mega kick. If you choose a large value the names will eventually be based on later bytes that cannot be given a name. It sounds like a good idea but if you took the data of the game's ROM from another source this is illegal. (oh and hello ownagemuch are you from GCL forums too, this is Torchickens!) --Chickasaurus 12:46, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Usually if it is based on a glitch move only it's species is the move's name, and the nickname remains as "??????????", although that is in Emerald. (And yes I am, I had a feeling it was you too). OwnageMuch 08:01, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Legitimate encounter now possible

This person has found a way using the Pomeg glitch to obtain a variatoin of B óË ÁN without external devices.

How it is done can be found here (http://www.halloforigin.com/forums/showthread.php?64-Pomeg-Glitch-Thread) in the final post of page one. It would be useful to read the whole page though for a better understanding.

Seems like it may be more possible to investigate now. OwnageMuch 02:17, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

óË {e Ái or B óË ÁN does not have its own unique index number

óË {e Ái (if emulated: emulation error can denote the name to ~B óË ÁN even when VaeporSage's possible without cheating via Pomeg glitch "switch glitch" method is used - the one OwnageMuch told us) by searching the species in battle address just turned out to share the index number of - (glitch Pokémon) : 019C and not its own unique glitch Pokémon (Default 'species' data for an Egg in Generation III rendered badly).

I couldn't experiment further and make any more 'objective' conclusions, though it looks like FireRed/LeafGreen's battle engine is significantly different, where by exploiting the "switch glitch" (can't normally get all Pokémon 0HP and not black out on Ruby/Sapphire because of different item healing mechanics - but on FireRed/LeafGreen/Emerald if you use a Potion and it would 'loop over' 65535 it resets to 0 and you don't black out.) the game just doesn't render the glitch Pokémon as a Bad Egg for hypothetically animation in battle related changes as it normally would in Ruby/Sapphire when 'switching in the forced switch Pokémon'.

Putting this into perspective, sending out "forced switch Pokémon" in Ruby/Sapphire sends out "Egg" #412 and the invalid checksum renders the result as "Bad Egg" but sending out the "forced switch Pokémon" in FireRed/LeafGreen for some reason doesn't and the 'garbage' data is accepted (where in FireRed/LeafGreen a temporary change to a Pokémon's sprite/animation in battle is possible only over a 'given' time. I guess here the game says the Conversion animation is in effect for Egg with length 0?) --Chickasaurus 18:52, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

I suggest a move

To [[óË {e Ái]] OwnageMuch 03:48, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Almost agreed. The { seems to be impossible in page titles. We could use ( and add a technical difficulties note. --SnorlaxMonster 13:50, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Sound good. OwnageMuch 20:04, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

t Ël {é Á ü

Emerald equivalent of you know who.

Found by VaeporSage.

"In other news, I found a REALLY COOL new thing about the False Swipe abnormality. To start, my initial Pokemon was a Breloom whose moveset was Giga Drain, Brick Break, Spore and Leech Seed, and it resulted in an AzuYOP. After False Swipe hit my YOP, I started to mess around with Leech Seed, which constantly seemed to leave the YOP and the opponent's Pokemon at different health levels. When I would use Giga Drain, my health would go straight from my initial health to what my opponent's was left at, and then right back up as I drained health. (For example, 10 -> 5 -> 13 etc.)
So eventually, I ended up fainting the opponent's Pokemon. (Swablu.) This didn't end up in me fainting, perhaps for a number of reasons: 1) Giga Drain, which finished off Swablu, restored my health simultaneously, which meant that the game would not faint me at that time. 2) Struggle, which made a Ditto faint, except fainted the YOP instead, inflicted recoil damage. Giga Drain did not.
Then, my opponent's second and last Pokemon, a Latios, came out. (If you're wondering why the Pokemon I'm using are so unusual, it's because I'm using a Secret Base for these battles.) Latios has only Memento as a moveset, so it instantly fainted. At this point, I should have won, but oddly, I didn't. The game then told me that Swablu was again going to be sent out (it's fainted!) but when it was, it was sent out at over half its health. (My YOP had 11/20 HP left.) I then quickly fainted that Swablu, to find that the game was going to send out...
"t Ël {é Á ü."
This Pokemon is yet another form of B óË ÁN. (but in Emerald!) It has the same animation as the óË family, except that it's on the opponent's side. Unfortunately, it 'freezes' the game, i.e. not allowing you to press A etc. due to its animation. It's pretty odd that it managed to find its way into Emerald though... "

OwnageMuch 21:27, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't really understand the quote. What is a YOP, and is there a video? --SnorlaxMonster 10:52, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
"YOP" [Your opponent's Pokémon] is the Emerald equivalent result after performing the "forced switch glitch" in Pokémon Emerald. (see video below 0:00 to 1:10). It isn't a complete copy of the opponent Pokémon but uses most of its data.
By ChickasaurusGL
This video is not available on Bulbapedia; instead, you can watch the video on YouTube here.


--Chickasaurus 15:24, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

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