Talk:Key Stone

Move

The Key Stone should have its own Article, or at the very least the two be combined into a Key Stone and Mega ring article.

Anyways, here's what the Key Stone Article could look like.

A '''Key Stone''' (Japanese: '''キーストーン''' ''Key Stone'') is a small, marble-like stone with a stylized, Double Helix design within it. It is embedded into a [[Mega Ring|bracelet]], glove, necklace or other wearable accessory worn by some trainers in [[Pokémon X and Y]]. The Key Stone in conjunction with a [[Mega Stone]] is what allows Pokémon to [[Mega Evolution|Mega Evolve]]. It is roughly 1/8th the size of a Mega Stone.

==In the anime==
[[File:Mega Stone PO.png|thumb|250px|Key Stone right, and Mega Stone Left as seen in Pokémon Origins]]
===In the main series===
Much like Mega Stones, the Key Stone has yet to officially debut in the main [[Pokémon anime]] series.

===In Pokémon Origins===
In the [[PO02|second episode]] of the Pokémon special mini-series [[Pokémon Origins]], [[Mr. Fuji]] gave {{OBP|Red|Origins}} a Mega Stone and a Key Stone held in a box. Eventually Professor Oak suggested that Red hold onto the Key Stone and have Charizard hold onto the Mega Stone.

See, its varied from the Mega Ring and Mega Stone Articles, and there are key points that can be covered in the Key Stone Article that would be more cluttered in the other two articles Yamitora1 (talk) 09:13, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

It would be too short. I think the article's fine the way it is. Porygon-man (talk) 02:08, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Most of what in the article could be added to the Key Stone article with some tweaking. And I do think it would make more sense that way- the Mega Ring isn't actually significant by itself, just as an object to hold the Key Stone, and it's not even the only sort that exists. Heck, Red doesn't even get a Ring or a holder of any kind, so the Origins section on this page doesn't actually belong here as it is. Yamiidenryuu (talk) 03:20, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Technically speaking, the Mega "Ring" is just an aesthetic prop that bears no other purpose then to conveniently hold the Key Stone. You take the venom out of a cobra, you just have a belt, you take the Key Stone out of the Mega Ring, you just have a piece of clothing or jewelry. Actually, I think it might be better to dissolve the Mega Ring article and turn it into the Key Stone Article. I mean unless the Mega Ring that the player has is somehow technologically aided to prevent accidental triggering or tune and amplify the Key Stone in some way. Although I do kinda remember that the professor mentions updating the Mega Ring itself.Yamitora1 (talk) 08:21, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

I agree on changing this to Key Stone. We'll be seeing a Mega Earring in the anime soon as well, it's pretty obvious that the important item is the Key Stone and the Mega Ring is an accessory for it, and (other than being owned by the player character), is in no way more relevant than a Mega Glove, Mega Charm, etc. --Gabo 2oo (talk) 21:24, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

I disagree. A mega ring has a keystone, so I think it should combine, but remain as Mega Ring.Poketj123 (talk) 18:52, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

I would want to raise the concern of "accessibility" into the question. It appears that new comers would ideally first hear these artifacts from the game instead of the Anime, of course some otherwise. But the probability for people looking for these artifacts in the Bulbapedia because of the game would somehow be higher. This is a logical speculation anyway. So people looking for a Mega Ring instead of a Key Stone would be more common. -Iosue (talk) 07:42, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

If the page is moved to Key Stone, Mega Ring will still redirect here, so that is a non-issue. --SnorlaxMonster 09:58, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

I think that it should be moved, because although the player, rival, and Lysandre use Mega Rings, Korrina uses a Mega Glove and Diantha uses a Mega Charm. PokemonRen (talk) 22:16, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Mega-Bangle

It was confirmed that May (and her male counterpart Brendan) will get a Mega-Bangle in Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, which has the same function as the Mega Ring. Plus it seems that Steven Stone will also get a Mega Charizard, which may mean yet another way to wear the Key Stone. As such it's back to a "Key Stone" renaming rather than the "Mega Ring" name--Wolfy Harfleur 76700 (talk) 16:46, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Should "crafted" be changed or kept?

A Key Stone is typically "crafted" into a piece of clothing, jewelry or other personal items.

I am wondering if the word crafted should be changed, since it could read as the Key Stone itself is being modified into, instead of simply attached to the various items that hold it. Is crafted a good enough word, or is there a better way of rewording the entire sentence?

I know in jewelry you usually use the term "Set" or "Setting" when speaking about a stone attached to a ring or other ornamental piece.

"Incorporated" could work, but unfortunately a lot of people tend to think of that word as more of a business term then for its actual meaning.

Another possible word to replace crafted is "Integrated" Yamitora1 (talk) 07:11, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Lysandre's Mega Ring

I can get a screenshot of Lysandre's introduction in the third battle where he shows his Mega Ring on his hand. Would it be alright to upload it and add it to the article? Drake Clawfang (talk) 03:00, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Gurkinn's mega glove

Can we add a picture to the gallery (in the anime section) of Gurkinn's. - unsigned comment from Grabbergirl (talk • contribs)

Someone will need to upload it over at the Archives, but thanks for the suggestion. Don't forget to sign your comments next time. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 20:00, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Splitting Key Stone items

We now have pages for virtually every item. However, because of the old methodology of grouping similar items into a single page, we ended up merging the Mega Ring and Mega Bracelet into this page. This now leaves them as some of the only items not to have their own pages. I propose that at the very least we create separate pages for the Mega Ring and Mega Bracelet, and possibly the Mega Cuff and Mega Charm too.

It might even make sense to give individual articles to NPC's Key Ston items (like the Mega Anchor and Mega Glove), but I don't think it's as necessary to split those items. --SnorlaxMonster 07:54, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Trivia

I have got something to add to the "Trivia" section of the page, "The Bag sprite in Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee shows the Key Stone being kept inside a swirl charm, but it is not worn as anything." Kirsten Thomas (talk) 01:05, 31 July 2019 (UTC)