Talk:Drink

So there's a guard at the entrance to Canalave City who mentions he's thirsty in Gen IV. Anyone know what he's thirsty for? I tried water, lemonade, soda, and milk to no avail. Maybe it's just a joke referencing the earlier games? Czeano

Probably, theres one in Emerald too. The guy on the roof of the department store also says he's thirsty but doesn't take anything. - unsigned comment from Lego3400 (talk • contribs)

Berry Juice?

The article mentions that attaching a Berry or Oran Berry to Shuckle will eventually turn it to Berry Juice. However, it doesn't mention this for D/P/P. Does the Berry Juice thing still work in Generation IV? Also, under Shuckle's article, it says that in GSC attaching a Berry to Shuckle will make it into Berry Juice, but waiting even longer will make it a Rare Candy. Does this also work in Generations III and IV? Blueapple128 20:28, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Thats what I'd like to know :c ~~Takoto - サソデイ 12:14, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm also researching on that subject, but no one seems to be able to provide an answer to wether Shuckle can produce Berry Juice, or even in how much time, exactly, it would(in GSC, for example). What bugs me further is that Berry Juice is not on the List of items unobtainable in Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, so either it aimply can't be traded in, or it is obtainable, but people ain't talking. On an unrelated note, my Shuckle is carrying an Oran Berry for 48 hours now. =P -- Professional Mole (Talk here) 22:58, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I believe a Berry gets converted to Berry Juice in GSC whenever Shuckle gains a level. However, I haven’t ever tried it, nor have I heard of anyone else doing it. IIMarckus 23:06, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

See, that's our problem. Luckily, I'll try it as soon as I get a Shuckle on my recently-gotten Pokémon Crystal! =D But as you're already here... any info on how it happens on R/S/E/FR/LG? -- Professional Mole (Talk here) 23:39, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Not a clue, but if it works in GSC it may well work for the others as well. IIMarckus 23:40, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Been trying this in Pearl today. I've had a Shuckle level up several times while holding an Oran Berry. Nothing happened. It says "over time", however... Maybe if I leave the Shuckle in my party overnight.... Yeah, it could be like Pokérus! That wears off if the afflicted Pokemon is in your party at midnight, so maybe Berry Juice works similarly! And then, we need someone to test the Berry Juice into Rare Candy rumor. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 22:39, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Been trying this on Diamond for some time, already. Not got any juice, though. On Crystal, things are going, it wasn't level up, and not little time(maybe some days, I'll try). On Diamond, I'm EV training Sheldon holding an Oran Berry, and also leveled up a female Shuckle from level 1 to 10, to no avail. Here: I'm documenting -- Professional Mole (Talk here) 23:39, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

_{Resetting indent} I know this is a year-old conversation, but I would like to report that I had an Oran Berry on my Shuckle in Pearl since Monday (I wasn't playing any of these weekdays... school), and, today being Saturday, it still hasn't turned into juice. I am starting to think that you can only get the juice in Generations II and III. My brother (who has Emerald) said that in Emerald Shuckles have an ability that allows them to make juice, but he couldn't say what it was called. My Shuckle has Gluttony. Could the apparent lack of Berry Juice production be the result of the retiring of a ability? Or does the need for more NAD⁺ just not exist in Generation IV? --DialgaRULES 21:50, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Man, I'm on a roll answering old questions lately.

Okay, Berry Juice is obtainable in Generation III, but only through wild Shuckle obtained through FireRed/LeafGreen's Altering Cave. Wild Shuckle in Emerald will NOT be holding Berry Juice. There were no international Altering Cave events (I'm not sure about Japan), so it isn't available to most Gen III players. First learned about it here [1], and it seems to have been backed up by these sources. [2] [3]. Also, the Cianwood City Shuckle is holding Berry Juice in HeartGold/SoulSilver. MagicBarrier 23:21, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Ramune?

Soda Pop is a clear reference to the Japanese drink Ramune. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramune ) You can especially tell by looking at the Gen 3 icon. It's also a popular summer drink, which is why they were serving it on Slateport's beach. I think it'd be interesting to say so in the article. What do you think? ~~ Erilily

All the icons clearly show it's based on Ramune. You can even see the marble used to seal it in the Dream World icons. I think this should be mentioned in the trivia. KaizokuShojo 06:32, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

What is ミックスオレ (Lemonade)?

I just read on the main page that the item labelled "Lemonade" in English is actually orange juice, but this is not the case. ミックスオレ when written in the Roman alphabet would be "mixed au lait", with the last "オレ" part meaning the French "au lait", i.e. with milk.

http://htamura.blog.ocn.ne.jp/tamutamu/2009/02/post_143b.html

A quick search for the Japanese term came up with this link, which handily not only proves my argument but also links it with Pokemon, since this particular "Mix au lait" is from the Pokemon Centre. (It's the glass on the left.) Incidentally, the difference between "mix" and "mixed" is not all that important here. Japanese loan words rarely reflect the proper English tense, so it is quite reasonable to change the English translation to make for better English. I also found quite a few references around the net theorising that ミックスオレ is an abbreviation, with another word implied in front of it. (Notably http://bulo.hjenglish.com/question/31007/ .) So it likely is short for "mixed fruit au lait" or something like that. Thorf 15:20, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Mix is French for mixture, it isn't mistensed. And ミックスオレ in Romaji (a.k.a. in the Roman alphabet) is Mikkusuore, that can is simply written in French. So really it depends on what Mikkusuore actually means, not what that can says. But I don't speak Japanese. Myles ^{(talk - contrib)} 09:20, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

You seem to be a bit confused about this. If I am understanding you correctly, you don't see the relationship between the can and the in-game Pokemon item...? It seems pretty plain to me. If you had checked, you would even see that the can lists below "Mix au lait" ポケモンセンターのミックスオレ. Even if you don't speak Japanese (which does make me wonder why you're trying to correct those who do, but never mind), surely you can recognise that the last six characters are ミックスオレ, i.e. the item that's called Lemonade in English.

"Mikkusuore" would be the base transliteration, certainly, but that's irrelevant. What's important is what foreign words the Japanese have borrowed and represented with those sounds, which is made 100% clear by that can. It is of course possible that there are other valid derivations, but the one provided on the official can seems like a very good candidate. Plus, with this being a drink the オレ part is almost certain to be the same オレ as in カフェオレ (cafe au lait). Also, I'm pretty sure that most if not all English speakers know that "au lait" refers to milk, so I don't see a problem with keeping it in an English translation. It was borrowed into English long ago.

The "mix" part is a little less clear, but as I said before it almost certainly refers to mixed fruit. You can call this "fruit mixture" if you like - it's the same thing anyway. I confirmed this with my wife (who is a native Japanese speaker) and she confirmed that it most likely means mixed fruit juice with milk. We might just call it fruit milk in English, I guess, if you don't like the "au lait". That would probably make the connection we want, which is to say that this drink is like strawberry milk, though perhaps with different fruits. Thorf 13:06, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

I was just going based off what you said and you wrote the French name for it in the article, mix au lait being French for mixture with milk or rather milk mixture. It's suppose to be an English translation. And I didn't correct you, I just wrote what you wrote in English, instead of French. au lait was never borrowed into English (find a definition for it in an English dictionary), regardless of however well known it is. Myles ^{(talk - contrib)} 13:24, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

It should be "mix au lait". The fact that it's French doesn't matter. It's the name of the drink. And it's not like people don't say cafe au lait in English.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 14:24, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

I've been wondering this for a while

I do wonder why the translation for the Soda Pop's listed as "Supreme Soda" on the page instead of "Psycho Soda".. but I don't really know much about common translations or if there's a reference somewhere with Supreme Soda, hence why I haven't touched the page yet. →Tinā ^♫★ 22:20, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Simple: the word "saiko" (最高) in Japanese means "supreme", "great", "best", and the like. Thorf 13:07, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I actually wonder about this, too. Even though that's quite possibly correct, wouldn't that set of kanji be more like saikō (saikou, if you prefer)? Seeing as the 'saiko' presented lacks the final 'u' sound, I'm thinking they may be different words. Just as well, this particular 'saiko' is in katakana... and it could just be that one is supposed to stress that part, but I'm leaning more towards the katakana representing a loan word (as it tends to do). Soramimi 14:25, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

"Supreme" makes more sense than "Psycho", and cutting off long vowels isn't unheard of. And katakana represent Japanese words just as much.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 14:30, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Odd descriptions

What exactly is 'rental HP recovers' supposed to mean? Our Lord and Master 20:06, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Generation V Drink Locations

I've noticed how in Gen V that there are a TON of drink vending machines all over the place... at least relative to previous generations. Maybe something should be said about this fact? As in, that Drinks in Gen V have become far more common and accessible for players? -- Nick15 19:25, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Go for it. —darklordtrom 05:48, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

By the way, can you also add the specific locations of the vending machines to the locations section. If there are 10+, then maybe just make the location vending machine. --SnorlaxMonster 09:49, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

I've noticed that, and tried a trick. I've been buying drinks from each vending machine. Today, I've gotten two lemonades at once. Did it happen in other genarations? --Blow (話す) 17:50, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

I know that sometimes happened for me in HeartGold/Pearl Versions. I don't know if it could happen in Generation III or not. --Andy^P_K^M_N 20:42, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh, never mind. I've just read this info in the Trivia of the vending machine page. --Blow (話す) 21:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

In Other Languages?

I've noticed that on this article and others like it (which cover multiple items), there isn't a "In other languages" section which cover each individual item's name. Case in point, in Korean "Lemonade" is actually 후르츠밀크 "Hureuchu Milk" (or "Fruit Milk").

Basically, I find it odd that these kind of articles lack the "In other languages" section found on other articles and feel one should be added to them. Whaddya say?? -- Nick15 22:51, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, we do have List of items in other languages, but I think individual page lists as well would be a good idea. --SnorlaxMonster 14:48, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Berry Juice

So Emerald's Shuckle gives Oran Berry. FRLG gives Berry Juice. Problem is, the ONLY way you can get Shuckle at FRLG is... Altering Cave. That makes Berry Juice... unavailable, as no country apparently used it. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 15:32, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Juice Shoppe from Lumiose City

The entry from Lumiose City can be ported here and leave a redirect. I think that particular shop sells drink for Pokemon to consume at once. I also think that in the future, similar shops are likely to appear in future games and putting the information here instead of in the city's page can benefit. Besides, people are discussing to split the city's page. So moving the Juice Shoppe here seems like a solution. -Iosue (talk) 06:37, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Most cost efficient drink in Sun and Moon

The most cost-effective HP recovery item in Pokémon Sun and Moon is the Fresh Water when purchased for $150 at Game Freak office in Heahea City , recovering 1 HP per $5 spent.

Is this true? If it is maybe it could be add somewhere. - unsigned comment from Ddhelmet (talk • contribs)

That was one of many trivia subpoints that I removed recently because they went into incredibly crufty, unimportant, excruciating detail. I ended up whittling it down to just 1) the most cost-effective item at normal purchase prices, and 2) the most cost-effective item ever, period, including past games and special purchase prices. I don't think it's necessary to add a third point about the most cost-effective item in whatever the most recent games are, because it would need to be updated every generation and it would just encourage people to add a bunch of other games' most cost-effective items, causing the very same clutter that I was trying to stop. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 17:13, 8 February 2017 (UTC)