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::Now, the existence of this point is interesting, because it implies that judges know which Pokémon are considered Mythical or Legendary. However, I believe that only public rule documents can be enforced in official tournaments, so exactly how they determine this should be looked into. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:57, 14 March 2017 (UTC) | ::Now, the existence of this point is interesting, because it implies that judges know which Pokémon are considered Mythical or Legendary. However, I believe that only public rule documents can be enforced in official tournaments, so exactly how they determine this should be looked into. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:57, 14 March 2017 (UTC) | ||
:::I talked with a VGC Judge and he said that nobody knows which Pokémon are legendary and the same discussion went on in their private forums. They decided to disregard the rule that says that legendary and mythical Pokémon can't have fighting Hidden Power, and instead have it as Pokémon who are guaranteed to have 3 IVs cannot have Fighting Hidden Power, as they couldn't figure out what was legendary and what wasn't. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 11:09, 14 March 2017 (UTC) | :::I talked with a VGC Judge and he said that nobody knows which Pokémon are legendary and the same discussion went on in their private forums. They decided to disregard the rule that says that legendary and mythical Pokémon can't have fighting Hidden Power, and instead have it as Pokémon who are guaranteed to have 3 IVs cannot have Fighting Hidden Power, as they couldn't figure out what was legendary and what wasn't. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 11:09, 14 March 2017 (UTC) | ||
::::This is a quote from the PWT, accessed by talking to the red attendant, selecting info and selecting the Kanto Leaders Tournament: | |||
::::"Kanto Leaders Tournament is a tournament in which Gym Leaders from Kanto are participating. You may not have duplicate Pokémon or duplicate held items. The item Soul Dew and the move Sky Drop are banned. Legendary or mythical Pokémon may not participate, either. For these battles, all Pokémon will be set to Level 50. The winner will be awarded with a little more BP than usual. Good luck!" | |||
::::And yet some Legendary Pokémon CAN participate in this tournament, the ones listed above. The games use that line in other places, too. The description for the Kanto X Alola Regional Rumble download rules says "Only Alola Pokédex and Kanto Pokédex can be used. Legendary and Mythical Pokémon are banned.", as well, yet confirmed legendaries, the Legendary Birds, are allowed in it. The X and Y Baby Pokémon thing never prevented HP Fighting, as it didn't prevent HATCHING those Pokémon with 2 or fewer 31 IVs. And if you're just going to say "use caution", there are videos on YouTube complaining about it, so maybe we should at least do somthing on the page to add more about them, like how Phione is on the Mythical Pokémon page. There is such a thing as being too cautious. And this debate is pretty dumb, as all the against camp has in evidence and arguments is a single quote from a source that isn't even all that reliable for this kind of thing, and a general "be cautious" thing. Also, while the manual hack checking isn't exhaustive, since it bothers to worry about Hidden Power's type at all then the descriptor for the rule about Hidden Power's type IS almost certainly comprehensive, and Gen I Pokémon and Ash-Greninja are not relevant, as they aren't even legal in VGC, so the manual hack check does not have to account for them. (Also, Ash-Greninja is easy, as only a single IV spread is legal for it, so Hidden Power is fixed and the automatic hack check can probably easily verify the legality of it because of this, since all it has to do is confirm that all the IVs match the single legal spread, not calculate Hidden Power's type, which is a significantly less efficient thing to do, and would slow the hack check down while using up more memory.) [[User:PartHunter|PartHunter]] ([[User talk:PartHunter|talk]]) 12:17, 17 March 2017 (UTC) | |||