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== Possible evolution? ==
== Possible evolution? ==


The Japanese episode title of XY094 contains Quilladin. Could this be a possible evolution? (Wait till XY093 airs in Japan. We can check the ending credits then.) [[User:1234567890Number|1234567890Number]] ([[User talk:1234567890Number|talk]]) 10:43, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
The Japanese episode title of XY095 contains Quilladin. Could this be a possible evolution? (Wait till XY094 airs in Japan. We can check the ending credits then.) [[User:1234567890Number|1234567890Number]] ([[User talk:1234567890Number|talk]]) 10:43, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
: The episode summary says that it's a wild one, so no, it is not evolving [[User:Upratik 12|<I><span style="color:red">Pr</span><span style="color:blue">at</span><span style="color:green">ik_12</span></I>]] <sub>''  [[User talk:Upratik 12|<span style="color:violet">Talk</span>]]''</sub> 10:44, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
: The episode summary says that it's a wild one, so no, it is not evolving [[User:Upratik 12|<I><span style="color:red">Pr</span><span style="color:blue">at</span><span style="color:green">ik_12</span></I>]] <sub>''  [[User talk:Upratik 12|<span style="color:violet">Talk</span>]]''</sub> 10:44, 8 October 2015 (UTC)


== Chespin Gender XY097==
== Chespin Gender XY098==
In the dream Chespin uses the masculine "boku" to refer to itself. Does this make it male for sure? {{unsigned|Gatogirl}}
In the dream Chespin uses the masculine "boku" to refer to itself. Does this make it male for sure? {{unsigned|Gatogirl}}
:I'm not certain exactly how this would be decided, but for the sake of completeness, how does Braixen (as a Delphox) refer to itself? With a feminine form (I don't speak Japanese, not even sure what that would be)? [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 23:07, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
:I'm not certain exactly how this would be decided, but for the sake of completeness, how does Braixen (as a Delphox) refer to itself? With a feminine form (I don't speak Japanese, not even sure what that would be)? [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 23:07, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
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:::Gender pronouns are not used for confirming genders.  --[[User:Rikeo|<span style="color:#1FA2A9">'''リック'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Rikeo|<span style="color:#A9851F">'''EO'''</span>]] [[User talk:Rikeo|<span style="color:#A91F1F"><small>(メッセージ)</small></span>]] 05:05, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
:::Gender pronouns are not used for confirming genders.  --[[User:Rikeo|<span style="color:#1FA2A9">'''リック'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Rikeo|<span style="color:#A9851F">'''EO'''</span>]] [[User talk:Rikeo|<span style="color:#A91F1F"><small>(メッセージ)</small></span>]] 05:05, 12 December 2015 (UTC)


==Chespin Gender XY113==
==Chespin Gender XY114==
Chespin had a crush on a female Buneary, who preferred Bunnelby (confirmed male). Pancham also had a crush on that Buneary, and he's also confirmed male. Considering that Chespin already had a crush on a female Meowstic, I think this is good enough proof to say that Chespin is male. [[User:UxieLover1994|UxieLover1994]] ([[User talk:UxieLover1994|talk]]) 23:51, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Chespin had a crush on a female Buneary, who preferred Bunnelby (confirmed male). Pancham also had a crush on that Buneary, and he's also confirmed male. Considering that Chespin already had a crush on a female Meowstic, I think this is good enough proof to say that Chespin is male. [[User:UxieLover1994|UxieLover1994]] ([[User talk:UxieLover1994|talk]]) 23:51, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
:Having a crush on a certain gender Pokémon has never been used as proof before, it is conjecture assuming that only opposite genders can have a crush on each other. There is no proof that only opposite genders have crushes, it is entirely possible for same genders to have a crush on each other. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 23:59, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
:Having a crush on a certain gender Pokémon has never been used as proof before, it is conjecture assuming that only opposite genders can have a crush on each other. There is no proof that only opposite genders have crushes, it is entirely possible for same genders to have a crush on each other. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 23:59, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
::Please be aware that this is a ''children's anime''. Homosexuality is banned in these types of shows to avoid offending parents and moral guardians, so Chespin being male is the only possibility on why it can have a crush on a female Meowstic or Buneary. Chespin cannot be a lesbian female. [[DP149|The only time in the anime where same sex romance was displayed]] was due to outside interference, and it does not count. [[User:UxieLover1994|UxieLover1994]] ([[User talk:UxieLover1994|talk]]) 01:59, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
::Please be aware that this is a ''children's anime''. Homosexuality is banned in these types of shows to avoid offending parents and moral guardians, so Chespin being male is the only possibility on why it can have a crush on a female Meowstic or Buneary. Chespin cannot be a lesbian female. [[DP149|The only time in the anime where same sex romance was displayed]] was due to outside interference, and it does not count. [[User:UxieLover1994|UxieLover1994]] ([[User talk:UxieLover1994|talk]]) 01:59, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
:::Sorry, it is Bulbapedia policy to not confirm genders from crushes, and staff members have given the same exact reasoning as I have just stated. You have no proof that homosexuality is banned in the show itself, and Chespins gender will only be confirmed if hit by something like Attract from a Pokémon with a confirmed gender, or if it goes to a similar gathering like the [[XY104|dance party]]. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 02:04, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
:::Sorry, it is Bulbapedia policy to not confirm genders from crushes, and staff members have given the same exact reasoning as I have just stated. You have no proof that homosexuality is banned in the show itself, and Chespins gender will only be confirmed if hit by something like Attract from a Pokémon with a confirmed gender, or if it goes to a similar gathering like the [[XY105|dance party]]. [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 02:04, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
::::I was only just trying to point this all out, but I know that displaying homosexual content in kids shows will cause controversy, especially in the west. But I gotta ask: are you a moderator yourself? [[User:UxieLover1994|UxieLover1994]] ([[User talk:UxieLover1994|talk]]) 02:08, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
::::I was only just trying to point this all out, but I know that displaying homosexual content in kids shows will cause controversy, especially in the west. But I gotta ask: are you a moderator yourself? [[User:UxieLover1994|UxieLover1994]] ([[User talk:UxieLover1994|talk]]) 02:08, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::It is not common, but there have been some hinted instances of homosexuality in Western kids shows. No I am not, but that does not matter, I still am able to provide the same arguments that are used in these situations, especially one as frequently discussed as this (Ash's Charizard, Ash's Oshawott, Clemonts Chespin, and Serena's Pancham have all had this discussion, before some of them had their genders confirmed). [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 02:19, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::It is not common, but there have been some hinted instances of homosexuality in Western kids shows. No I am not, but that does not matter, I still am able to provide the same arguments that are used in these situations, especially one as frequently discussed as this (Ash's Charizard, Ash's Oshawott, Clemonts Chespin, and Serena's Pancham have all had this discussion, before some of them had their genders confirmed). [[User:ChE clarinetist|ChE clarinetist]] ([[User talk:ChE clarinetist|talk]]) 02:19, 8 April 2016 (UTC)