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::::The relevance is that it gives an argument towards ''not'' including V-Create on this page. Indeed, I'd argue that, even prior to the event Rayquaza, it was not a Signature Move, because the move was only available through an event, and thus couldn't be reliably associated with Victini, even if Victini was the only one that had gotten it. Let me give you a hypothetical analogy. Suppose that, during Gen III, an event occurred for FRLG, where you got a Voltorb that knows Volt Tackle. Would that make Volt Tackle a Voltorb signature move? I mean, it has "Volt" in it, and only Voltorb would have it. I'd argue that, until the move is part of a pokemon's available moveset without an event, it cannot be a signature move. [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 11:09, 3 February 2012 (UTC) | ::::The relevance is that it gives an argument towards ''not'' including V-Create on this page. Indeed, I'd argue that, even prior to the event Rayquaza, it was not a Signature Move, because the move was only available through an event, and thus couldn't be reliably associated with Victini, even if Victini was the only one that had gotten it. Let me give you a hypothetical analogy. Suppose that, during Gen III, an event occurred for FRLG, where you got a Voltorb that knows Volt Tackle. Would that make Volt Tackle a Voltorb signature move? I mean, it has "Volt" in it, and only Voltorb would have it. I'd argue that, until the move is part of a pokemon's available moveset without an event, it cannot be a signature move. [[User:Aielyn|Aielyn]] 11:09, 3 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::::In your hypothetical situation, I would argue that Volt Tackle would be Voltorb's signature move until another Pokémon could learn the move, with events always being ignored if there is another way for a Pokémon to learn it. However, since we agree about the way the page should be now and are merely debating hypotheticals, I don't think we need to continue this discussion unless someone argues for the inclusion of V-create. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC) | :::::In your hypothetical situation, I would argue that Volt Tackle would be Voltorb's signature move until another Pokémon could learn the move, with events always being ignored if there is another way for a Pokémon to learn it. However, since we agree about the way the page should be now and are merely debating hypotheticals, I don't think we need to continue this discussion unless someone argues for the inclusion of V-create. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:21, 3 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
==I'm sorry...== | |||
...but your definition of "signature move" is seriously flawed. Any definition of the term that doesn't allow Transform and Moonlight to be categorized as Ditto and Umbreon's respective signature moves is just wrong. So what if there were few other Pokémon who learned it in the generation it was introduced on? We're too worried about following rules and guidelines to the point that we're sacrificing common sense. Everyone considers Transform to Ditto's signature move despite Mew (who is only a event Pokémon and thus didn't even exist for the average player back in the Gen I days) learning it, too. And considering that Espeon's signature move is Morning Sun, it's obvious that the developers intended Moonlight to be considered the signature move of his counterpart, Umbreon. - [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] 17:53, 3 March 2012 (UTC) | |||