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::Why does the page not list the transliteration as well, then? I can see (and agree with) your points (and was admittedly unaware of the trade mark name field), but not listing the proper pronunciation seems intentionally misleading. The point of putting rōmaji next to kana is generally to allow the reader to understand how the characters are pronounced, not simply to list an "official" romanization. I don't propose we oust the trademark, but simply list the pronunciation along with it (e.g. "(Japanese: カイオーガ ''Kaiōga'', trade marked ''Kaiorga'')"). --[[User:Valkyrja Magier|Valkyrja Magier]] ([[User talk:Valkyrja Magier|talk]]) 04:52, 3 February 2015 (UTC) | ::Why does the page not list the transliteration as well, then? I can see (and agree with) your points (and was admittedly unaware of the trade mark name field), but not listing the proper pronunciation seems intentionally misleading. The point of putting rōmaji next to kana is generally to allow the reader to understand how the characters are pronounced, not simply to list an "official" romanization. I don't propose we oust the trademark, but simply list the pronunciation along with it (e.g. "(Japanese: カイオーガ ''Kaiōga'', trade marked ''Kaiorga'')"). --[[User:Valkyrja Magier|Valkyrja Magier]] ([[User talk:Valkyrja Magier|talk]]) 04:52, 3 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::In point of fact, we actually don't do "romanizations" as in "how the Japanese is pronounced" very often (mostly in songs). In the "(Japanese: <jp> ''<italics>'') format, the italics are actually supposed to be the translation. See pretty much any page besides Pokemon or characters (e.g., [[Granite Cave]] or [[TM]]). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:11, 3 February 2015 (UTC) | :::In point of fact, we actually don't do "romanizations" as in "how the Japanese is pronounced" very often (mostly in songs). In the "(Japanese: <jp> ''<italics>'') format, the italics are actually supposed to be the translation. See pretty much any page besides Pokemon or characters (e.g., [[Granite Cave]] or [[TM]]). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:11, 3 February 2015 (UTC) | ||
::::The romanization ''is'' there. It's in the infobox. If you hover your cursor over the Kaiorga text, a box should appear with Kaiōga.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 05:16, 3 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::(What they said, too, but I'm not rewriting this again, so I apologize.) We do list it? The transliteration is in the tooltip of the katakana on the template, in the event the trademark and transliteration are different from one another (see {{p|Bulbasaur}} vs {{p|Clefable}}). Why are they not out in the open? Because the trademark is the more important information being offered; how it's actually spelled is trivia in comparison. The fact that there are romanizations that are trademarked and slapped on merchandise that are not transliterations should tell you that this is what the developers were aiming for, and it wasn't enough for katakana to display alone. We try to honor that as best we can. | |||
:::::Why's it not included in the first line? We try to keep that format as tidy as possibly; throwing in transliterations means pages like {{tc|Team Rocket Grunt|this}} are only bound to get messier. A Pokémon's trademark is as close to a translation as one gets, so that's the format. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 05:32, 3 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Ship == | |||
Is it possible to add Froakie and Sylveon as a ship?-- --[[User:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">Handmaiden 101</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 23:22, 22 February 2015 (UTC) | |||
:A few things, but we'll start with: As a full article? No. A one-off character and the relationship having no bearing on the episode does not make it particularly notable that it deserves its own article at this time. I'm not entirely sure it's worth being added to [[Shipping:List of anime shippings|here]], either. | |||
:Two: the pairing is called MoonPulseshipping; WaterNymphshipping is the name of Misty/Valerie, so the name cannot stand as is, if any bit of it where to reach the shippingspace. A note for you. | |||
:Three: When editing your comment, don't resign it to change the timestamp. Preferably, you shouldn't be editing your comment so long after you posted it, either, so pray take care not to, next time. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 19:09, 2 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
::(No editing comments, got it) Ah, I see. Too bad it can't have an article, I just like to include small things like that. I'll change the name. By the way, is there any tips to make a suitable shipping page? I'm new to shipping.-- --[[User:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">Handmaiden 101</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Handmaiden 101|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 22:03, 5 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
== why? == | |||
why did you undo my trivia for ice-type? --[[User:Valehd|<span style="color:cerulean">Valehd</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Valehd|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small> 22:53, 5 March 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Can't help but wonder. == | |||
A bit old and random, but would [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Me,_Hurray!&diff=304876&oldid=304871 this type of editing] be considered vandalism, or is it okay? Thanks for your time, sorry for the dumb question. :P ----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 21:03, 27 April 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Edit request for Mimikyu == | |||
I'm pretty sure the name comes from the phrase "mimic you", not just "mimic". [[User:Technickal|Technickal]] ([[User talk:Technickal|talk]]) 22:06, 19 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Per the talk page for this Pokémon, the name origin is heavily disputed. Let's leave it as it is for now, until someone who actually speaks Japanese can chime in. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:33, 20 July 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Move Pages == | |||
Can you move-protect {{m|Anchor Shot}} and any other move pages I might be creating in the next few days? I don't have that ability at my level. Cheers. =) [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 16:15, 19 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
:I'll be move-protecting what needs protecting, don't worry. I gotchu (it's all I do these days lol). [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] | |||
::Haha, no worries. I just saw you had protected a few pages and wante to make sure you got it since I created it yesterday, and it was off the history. =D There are some 24 new signature moves and I have no idea how many of the pages already exist, but I will be creating others as needed. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:12, 19 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Capitalization of Internet == | |||
While I'm not invested enough in the topic to get into an extended argument, I thought it might be worth pointing out that there is indeed a debate on the {{wp|capitalization of "Internet"}}, and the usage seems to be gradually changing toward lowercase. In particular, I'd like to highlight that in 2016, the Associated Press and The New York Times both shifted to lowercase, which I personally feel is a significant milestone. Since this is a topic for which usage is likely to continue to change in the near future, would it be prudent to avoid confusion and have the staff make an executive decision one way or the other and add it to Bulbapedia's style guide? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:04, 21 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
:Shrug. If you want to run that query, you need to ask another staff member, though seriously, don't make it sound like it's a big thing. But imo I think until a consensus is reached by grammarians, it should remain capitalized. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 19:38, 21 January 2017 (UTC) | |||