No, no, no. The legendaries are not categorised by their interrelationships but by the stage they can be obtained in game, and their characteristics. (Also, I don't support the Dialga/Palkia/Giratina triad theory.) - 振霖T 09:48, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- I've added that categorization (or at least what I believe to be true... far as D/P goes, I just followed what I knew from the guys above in RBYGSCRSE) to the top of the columns, and colorized the boxes that the Pokémon's names are in to basically represent their or their type's color. What do you think of it? Tom Temprotran 08:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Umm, Darkrai is an event Pokemon, not avaliable after the fall of the E4, unless you count that glitch.--PikamasterADV 12:34, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Lugia and Ho-Oh: Mascots only?
Since both of them are in the same boat as Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza, being before the Elite Four in one version and after it in another, I figure they should just be in the mascot column. Tom Temprotran 02:09, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Suicune
Suicune, to my belief, goes in the Trio box not the Mascots box. It was part of the trio first. TinaTheKirlia ♥ File:281MS.gif 15:27, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Über
What the hell is Über? Ü is really a German charackter ^^ What do you mean with this? MewX 21:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Although I don't know how to pronounce the 'Ü', Uber is pronounced like 'oober', so.. yeah.. Tina δ♫ 21:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Allright, I found this on WP. The German Ü is actually similar pronounced to an english Y... However ^^ Why are Darkrai etc. counted as Über while the others aren't? I thinknearly all of them are Über..?! MewX 22:05, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
WHY is Phione in this thing???
It's misleading-people will think Phione is a legendary! And NO, there is NOT any proof of it yet, so I suggest we leave Phione out of this template until it can be proven conclusively that it is or isn't a legendary. -- Glitch and Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 12:19, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
It is considerd by what? 75...80% of people that it is a legendary because it is you know BRED FROM ONE!
Be that as it may, that doesn't PROVE anything. Legendary Pokémon are only supposed to be one per cartridge w/o trading (you can breed more Phione from Phione or Manaphy), and have good stats (Phione's base stats are the same as Glalie's). I'm looking for irrefutable, undeniable, and concrete proof of whether or not Phione is legendary. Confirmation from Nintendo, ability to be used during the PBR legendary ban, ect., ect., ect.! People all thought Rotom was legendary, because it had good stats and legendary battle music, but as Pokémon.com confirmed, Rotom is NOT a legendary. Now, I'm not saying outright that Phione is not a legendary, I'm only saying that if it is, something screwy is going on here. -- Glitch and Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 12:33, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
I've taken Phione off the template. Please don't put it back until anything is confirmed. -- Glitch and Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 14:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- It's protected now, with Phione in it. Now, I think it should stay there as it is bred from a Legendary Pokémon.
PokeManiac102
06:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
why is it under event pokemon? --lord mada 22:50, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Unprotection?
I think this should be unprotected, Phione has been confirmed as Legendary now, so yeah.. (Unless someone decides that Giratina is going to be the third game mascot, and then they keep adding it over and over *coughs a bit*) Tina☆♫
17:08, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- And HOW has it been confirmed a Legendary? PokeManiac102 17:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- I think there was a post on Pokémon.com saying Phione is a legendary. File:Ani448MS.gifJmathFile:Ani447MS.gifTalkFile:Ani448MS.gif 18:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Fanon terms
Aren't "Uber" and "Cute" fanon terms? --☆ケンジガール 21:47, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Layout
This template is wider than the usual page width, which makes it a little annoying on some pages... Shouldn't we use a smaller font like on most other navigation templates? I'd do it myself, but it's protected... --ElectAbuzzzz 17:15, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- Umm, anybody...? --electAbuzzzz (TALK) 14:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
- OK, how about this as an improvable suggestion? I'm not too good with tables, but I think it's better then the current one. --electAbuzzzz (TALK) 13:00, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
| Legendary Pokémon | ||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Before the Elite Four | After the Elite Four | Event Pokémon | ||||||||||||
| Legendary trios | Version mascots | Cute | Über | |||||||||||
| Kanto | Articuno | Zapdos | Moltres | Mewtwo | Mew | |||||||||||
| Johto | Raikou | Entei | Suicune | Lugia | Ho-Oh | Celebi | |||||||||||
| Hoenn | Regirock | Regice | Registeel | Kyogre | Groudon | Rayquaza | Latias | Latios | Jirachi | Deoxys | |||||||||
| Sinnoh | Uxie | Mesprit | Azelf | Dialga | Palkia | Giratina | Heatran | Regigigas | Cresselia | Phione | Manaphy | Shaymin | Darkrai | Arceus | |||||||||
Looks good to me--KukiTalk 13:03, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
How about a mozborder one?
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Just an idea! Edit as needed.--Mew a.k.a. Prmatt11 at 14:44, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Phione
Phione is still not confirmed legendary or non-legendary. It should at least be put in a new section, something like "debatable". - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs)
Should this by organised by generation instead of region?
I say this because some of the pokemon listed, mainly the trios, are found in multiple regions. Also some of the Pokémon don't even come from the region they are listed in, for example Manaphy comes from Almia/Fiore not Sinnoh, Jirachi and Deoxys aren't found in Hoenn, and Mew isn't in Kanto. Jmvb 11:20, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Remove Phione, please
Take a look at Phione's talk page. It's confirmed to be not legendary. I'd do this myself, but the page is still protected for some strange reason. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 11:23, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- All that page says is that the failish Pokémon.com released several contradicting answers. Just because the recent one was a "no", does not mean it's the right one. It just means that it's their most recent brainfart. --electAbuzzzz 14:23, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- They would not have put it into print, let alone in a guidebook that probably millions of people own by now, if they weren't certain of it. On a website, sure, as they can easily change their minds (as we've seen for ourselves!), but in print, that's a different story. Besides, their previous contradictory answers don't even exist anymore, as Pokemon.com no longer has a mailbag. Why, it's almost as if they're now sure that Phione is not a legendary to the extent that they didn't want people to realize that they once beleived the contrary to be true! Look, if you're really still unsure, why not just put Phione into a special "debatable" column or something? - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 14:37, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- Uh, by that token, we'd have to move Allegra back to "Maki", Maury back to "Katsumi", and Kai (movie) to "Dai (movie)" (just plain "Dai" is now a disambig) on the sole basis that the charac::ters in question no longer have English names because the source that revealed them is no longer around. If that were to happen, we'd also have to put down that the dub did not give Moose a dub name because the source that distinctly said he kept his Japanese name is no longer around. Just because the Mailbag is no longer around doesn't mean whatever stuff it revealed is no longer relevant. As far as I'm concerned, you're just strapping more C4 to Pandora's Box, and by unhiding what you did, you're more than likely to have started the very edit war you were seeking to prevent. --Shiningpikablu252 16:11, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- There's a big freakin' difference. There's no recent official source overriding what the mailbag said about the movie characters' names. There IS an official source, in print, made by the same company, no less, overriding what the mailbag said about Phione's legendary status, however. And I am not trying to cause any trouble like this. I am, like any good Bulbapedia contributor, attempting to change certain aspects of a certain article to reflect the facts presented to us by an official source. In other words, I am trying to improve the pedia's accuracy and quality. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talk • contribs) 19:52, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- Uh, by that token, we'd have to move Allegra back to "Maki", Maury back to "Katsumi", and Kai (movie) to "Dai (movie)" (just plain "Dai" is now a disambig) on the sole basis that the charac::ters in question no longer have English names because the source that revealed them is no longer around. If that were to happen, we'd also have to put down that the dub did not give Moose a dub name because the source that distinctly said he kept his Japanese name is no longer around. Just because the Mailbag is no longer around doesn't mean whatever stuff it revealed is no longer relevant. As far as I'm concerned, you're just strapping more C4 to Pandora's Box, and by unhiding what you did, you're more than likely to have started the very edit war you were seeking to prevent. --Shiningpikablu252 16:11, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
- Still doesn't change the fact that you don't represent the consensus. For all we know, that book could be full of snafus like the book some people used to try to convince us that Rotom is a legendary--against a Mailbag-based consensus, for the record. Just because a book's got an official seal doesn't mean it's accurate. --Shiningpikablu252 04:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Zekrom and Reshiram
Shoudldn't these two be added to the list now?? --S2daam 08:34, 30 May 2010 (UTC)