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If a Pokémon has Huge Power, is its Attack double what's shown on its stats page? Or does the stats page account for it and show the actual value? [[User:HyperHacker|⬡]] ([[User talk:HyperHacker|talk]]) 23:42, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
If a Pokémon has Huge Power, is its Attack double what's shown on its stats page? Or does the stats page account for it and show the actual value? [[User:HyperHacker|⬡]] ([[User talk:HyperHacker|talk]]) 23:42, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
==Halved effect?==
The following used to be on this page.
"If this Ability is {{m|Skill Swap}}ped, copied with {{m|Role Play}} or {{a|Trace}}d, the effect is halved, boosting the Attack stat only by a 1.5x multiplier and not doubling. This is the only difference from the similar Ability, {{a|Pure Power}}."
This was removed because there was "no proof", but it does not appear the person who removed it tested it before removing it. I will probably test this in the next few days. So if I add it back it will be because it is true. If it is false I will update here saying so. [[User:Ctom42|Ctom42]] ([[User talk:Ctom42|talk]]) 04:24, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi, for some reason this recently came up again, and when you Google "difference between Huge Power and Pure Power," the first thing that comes up is this claim, which was cited by other sites, presumably relying on the edit made by Male Gardevoir here to Bulbapedia, which lasted almost 4 years before being removed for lack of proof. Ctom42 noted potentially testing it and reporting back but never did. I have [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpI_SkSzVjg tested and recorded] the claim on Platinum, and it is demonstrably false. I tested with Platinum because the edit was made on April 2, 2009, when Platinum was the most recent game. The details are in the description, but the video demonstrates that when Huge Power is Skill Swapped to another Pokémon, it will not deal damage with a 1.5x multiplier (consistent with Guts damage), but instead a 2x multiplier (consistent with Pure Power damage). There is, and never has been, a mechanical difference between Huge Power and Pure Power. I can test in RSE as well if for some reason that's necessary. [[User:Y000mtah|Y000mtah]] ([[User talk:Y000mtah|talk]]) 01:03, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
== "Muscleman" ==
Is this really the correct translation of ちからもち ''Chikaramochi''/''Chikara mochi''? It seems like "Power [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mochi Mochi]" would be better.
[[User:LittleOmu|LittleOmu]] ([[User talk:LittleOmu|talk]]) 05:53, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
:力持ち ''Chikaramochi'' is a Japanese word that means "Muscle man". Power Mochi doesn't really make sense in this context, so even though it would fit the kana, it can be disregarded as a possible intended meaning. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:53, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
::(Sorry for taking so long to respond.) I was thinking of the literal definition rather than the intended definition. My mistake! [[User:LittleOmu|LittleOmu]] ([[User talk:LittleOmu|talk]]) 07:49, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
== Notable orgin ==
This ability belongs to rabbit Pokemon because of its name "Chikaramochi" being a pun for "Mochi", a rice cake believed to be made by moon rabbit.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 16:56, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
: The ability sections don't have origins, so there isn't much of a reason to add it. Also, Mega Mawile isn't exactly a rabbit. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 17:09, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
:: Most of them do, [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Cloud_Nine_(Ability)#Trivia like this one]. Mega Mawile isn't exact, but it has two big horns which may resemble rabbit ears.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 17:28, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
::: Mega Mawile isn't exactly based off it so I would not add it. Also, I'm nor sure if the Cloud Nine Trivia is meant to be there. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 17:40, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
:::: What about trivia of Aftermath, Immunity, Mega Launcher, Poison Touch, Rattled and Tinted Lens? Rest od them are easy to understand or are linked to their possible orgin like Contrry.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 18:19, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
::::: It should really be for all abilities or none of them. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 21:21, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 01:04, 11 August 2021

If a Pokémon has Huge Power, is its Attack double what's shown on its stats page? Or does the stats page account for it and show the actual value? (talk) 23:42, 12 May 2014 (UTC)


Halved effect?

The following used to be on this page.

"If this Ability is Skill Swapped, copied with Role Play or Traced, the effect is halved, boosting the Attack stat only by a 1.5x multiplier and not doubling. This is the only difference from the similar Ability, Pure Power."

This was removed because there was "no proof", but it does not appear the person who removed it tested it before removing it. I will probably test this in the next few days. So if I add it back it will be because it is true. If it is false I will update here saying so. Ctom42 (talk) 04:24, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


Hi, for some reason this recently came up again, and when you Google "difference between Huge Power and Pure Power," the first thing that comes up is this claim, which was cited by other sites, presumably relying on the edit made by Male Gardevoir here to Bulbapedia, which lasted almost 4 years before being removed for lack of proof. Ctom42 noted potentially testing it and reporting back but never did. I have tested and recorded the claim on Platinum, and it is demonstrably false. I tested with Platinum because the edit was made on April 2, 2009, when Platinum was the most recent game. The details are in the description, but the video demonstrates that when Huge Power is Skill Swapped to another Pokémon, it will not deal damage with a 1.5x multiplier (consistent with Guts damage), but instead a 2x multiplier (consistent with Pure Power damage). There is, and never has been, a mechanical difference between Huge Power and Pure Power. I can test in RSE as well if for some reason that's necessary. Y000mtah (talk) 01:03, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

"Muscleman"

Is this really the correct translation of ちからもち Chikaramochi/Chikara mochi? It seems like "Power Mochi" would be better. LittleOmu (talk) 05:53, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

力持ち Chikaramochi is a Japanese word that means "Muscle man". Power Mochi doesn't really make sense in this context, so even though it would fit the kana, it can be disregarded as a possible intended meaning. --SnorlaxMonster 09:53, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
(Sorry for taking so long to respond.) I was thinking of the literal definition rather than the intended definition. My mistake! LittleOmu (talk) 07:49, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Notable orgin

This ability belongs to rabbit Pokemon because of its name "Chikaramochi" being a pun for "Mochi", a rice cake believed to be made by moon rabbit.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 16:56, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

The ability sections don't have origins, so there isn't much of a reason to add it. Also, Mega Mawile isn't exactly a rabbit. Ice Cream 17:09, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Most of them do, like this one. Mega Mawile isn't exact, but it has two big horns which may resemble rabbit ears.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 17:28, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Mega Mawile isn't exactly based off it so I would not add it. Also, I'm nor sure if the Cloud Nine Trivia is meant to be there. Ice Cream 17:40, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
What about trivia of Aftermath, Immunity, Mega Launcher, Poison Touch, Rattled and Tinted Lens? Rest od them are easy to understand or are linked to their possible orgin like Contrry.--Rocket Grunt (Report To Me) 18:19, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
It should really be for all abilities or none of them. Ice Cream 21:21, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
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