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<span style="color:#FF0000"><big><big><big><big><big>PIKACHUS GENDER Is NOT CONFIRMED!DO NOT POST ABOUT IT</big></big></big></big></big></span>
 
 
 
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Didn't he get taught Thunderpunch at some point? --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 19:04, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Didn't he get taught Thunderpunch at some point? --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 19:04, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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On the Japanese site PokeAni in states that Pikachu is a male.[http://www.pokeani.com/poke/r_p-satoshi1.html][[User:Ninja Hanako|Ninja Hanako]] 08:26, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
On the Japanese site PokeAni in states that Pikachu is a male.[http://www.pokeani.com/poke/r_p-satoshi1.html][[User:Ninja Hanako|Ninja Hanako]] 08:26, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


:It's jsut a fansite...[[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000033">A</span><span style="color:#003366">g</span><span style="color:#215670">e</span><span style="color:#006699">n</span><span style="color:#2D6E89">t</span>]] [[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#0066CC">#</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#3D81EE">4</span>]][[Lucario (anime)|<span style="color:#66B5FF">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#99C9FF">8</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Manual of style|<span style=" color:#C3D9FF;">♂</span>]]''' <sup>[[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color:#B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#66FF00;">E</span>]] | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆]</sup>[[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 08:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
:It's jsut a fansite...'''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000033">A</span><span style="color:#003366">g</span><span style="color:#215670">e</span><span style="color:#006699">n</span><span style="color:#2D6E89">t</span>]] [[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#0066CC">#</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#3D81EE">4</span>]][[Lucario (anime)|<span style="color:#66B5FF">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#99C9FF">8</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Manual of style|<span style=" color:#C3D9FF;">♂</span>]]''' <sup>[[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color:#B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#66FF00;">E</span>]] | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆]</sup>  08:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::Buneary's a girl! Therefore, Pikachu's a guy. And... well, the PUSA dub certainly would follow the ''official'' story more closely, I'd imagine, being that it's being run by Pokémon USA. Not to bash 4Kids at all, but PUSA knows what they're doing with their own franchise. No Seviper errors here. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 20:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::Buneary's a girl! Therefore, Pikachu's a guy. And... well, the PUSA dub certainly would follow the ''official'' story more closely, I'd imagine, being that it's being run by Pokémon USA. Not to bash 4Kids at all, but PUSA knows what they're doing with their own franchise. No Seviper errors here. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 20:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::: Evidence, however logical, is not proof. While I do see the case for "Pikachu is male", frankly I'd personally rather wait for Word Of God or a direct mention in the jp anime before saying it's proven. The absence of official word makes me think the Japanese writers etc might be up to something. [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 22:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::: Evidence, however logical, is not proof. While I do see the case for "Pikachu is male", frankly I'd personally rather wait for Word Of God or a direct mention in the jp anime before saying it's proven. The absence of official word makes me think the Japanese writers etc might be up to something. [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 22:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I agree. Though I do think that Pikachu is in fact male, there is NO PROOF to back it up. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 23:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I agree. Though I do think that Pikachu is in fact male, there is NO PROOF to back it up. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 23:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Which is exactly why I, begrudgingly, leave it as "Unknown"... though the "first nine seasons" debate is pretty much the [[:Image:Spr 3r 025.png|worst ever...]] <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 09:39, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Which is exactly why I, begrudgingly, leave it as "Unknown"... though the "first nine seasons" debate is pretty much the <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 09:39, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::No Seviper errors?  The "Arbok" of ''Mystery Dungeon'' says hi.
::::::No Seviper errors?  The "Arbok" of ''Mystery Dungeon'' says hi.
::::::And the split tail argument is weakest of all given that the writers have purposefully avoided the issue so far.
::::::And the split tail argument is weakest of all given that the writers have purposefully avoided the issue so far.
::::::Yes, Buneary is probably a girl since it wore a dress and Pikachu is probably a boy anyway.  But your logic is weak. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 10:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Yes, Buneary is probably a girl since it wore a dress and Pikachu is probably a boy anyway.  But your logic is weak. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 10:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Ok, I was watching the Japanese version of '''{{tt|Computer|Electric?}} Soldier Porygon''' and towards the end when Ash goes to hand Pikachu in, Nurse Joy refers to Pikachu as a boy. She says, and I quote the English translation, "''We'll look after him''". It may not be efficient evidence, but I think it does have some value. <span style="background:#000000"><big>{{ani|486}}<small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|377}}<small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|378}}<small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|379}}</big></span> 21:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Ok, I was watching the Japanese version of '''{{tt|Computer|Electric?}} Soldier Porygon''' and towards the end when Ash goes to hand Pikachu in, Nurse Joy refers to Pikachu as a boy. She says, and I quote the English translation, "''We'll look after him''". It may not be efficient evidence, but I think it does have some value. <span style="background:#000000"><big><small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small><small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small><small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small></big></span> 21:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:No, that's good evidence!--'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 00:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:No, that's good evidence!--'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 00:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


SIT, Pikachu is probly maile but we need more info first. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
SIT, Pikachu is probly maile but we need more info first. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
:You can't go by what a fansub said. For all you know they just could of wrote down "he" because the fansubber assumed that Pikachu was a boy. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 01:13, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:You can't go by what a fansub said. For all you know they just could of wrote down "he" because the fansubber assumed that Pikachu was a boy. --'''[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]]''''''[[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]]''' 01:13, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


XD Perhaps... more investigating! <span style="background:#000000"><big>{{ani|486}}<small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|377}}<small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|378}}<small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|379}}</big></span> 18:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC) "''I just wanna live!!''"
XD Perhaps... more investigating! <span style="background:#000000"><big><small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small><small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small><small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small></big></span> 18:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC) "''I just wanna live!!''"


I will say this for the people who have been argueing of Pikachu's gender. Pikachu, although never physically said, is in fact a male. Proof is shown of why Buneary likes him. Though some will say Buneary is a boy, proof of her being a girl is in episode #505 "Steamboat Willies!" Happiny, a (now revealed to be famale) Aipom, and Buneary get in dresses. When Dawn sees she says "You girls look so cute." directly to the Pokemon. While he is male, it has never been said of boy or girl, and the writers do not say so to make Pikachu more relatable.--[[User:Sh313|Sh313]] 01:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)SH313
I will say this for the people who have been argueing of Pikachu's gender. Pikachu, although never physically said, is in fact a male. Proof is shown of why Buneary likes him. Though some will say Buneary is a boy, proof of her being a girl is in episode #505 "Steamboat Willies!" Happiny, a (now revealed to be famale) Aipom, and Buneary get in dresses. When Dawn sees she says "You girls look so cute." directly to the Pokemon. While he is male, it has never been said of boy or girl, and the writers do not say so to make Pikachu more relatable.--[[User:Sh313|Sh313]] 01:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)SH313


:While I agree that Pikachu is a male and that Buneary is a female, to be fair, it's possible that Buneary could have a lesbian crush on Pikachu (granted Pikachu is a female, which I don't believe he is) or that Buneary could think that Pikachu is a male. But either way, I fully agree with you that Pika is a male and Bunear is a female.--[[User:Jake|Jake]] 12:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:While I agree that Pikachu is a male and that Buneary is a female, to be fair, it's possible that Buneary could have a lesbian crush on Pikachu (granted Pikachu is a female, which I don't believe he is) or that Buneary could think that Pikachu is a male. But either way, I fully agree with you that Pika is a male and Bunear is a female.--[[User:Jake|Jake]] 12:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
In one early episode perhaps the Erika one didn't Ash say "but Pikachu's a boy."
Just to clear up, there were three points in the "arguments for Pikachu possibly being female" section that I've removed for being pointless.
1.) Misty's pictured Pikachu in a dress. So what? We've actually -seen- Ash in a dress multiple times, does that mean he's a girl? Of course not.
2.) Buneary's crush on Pikachu. Granted, this doesn't necessarily tell us Pikachu is male with absolute certainty, since it's one sided, but it certainly can't be used as an argument for Pikachu being female. This is just absurd.
3.) Bayleef's rivalry. Just because they have a rivalry doesn't in any way suggest Pikachu is female. Yes, there's the element of gender attraction with Bayleef's relationship with Ash, but that doesn't mean the rivalry works on that same level for Pikachu.
Now, I'm in the "Pikachu is male" camp quite firmly, but I can at least accept the other points there can be used in defence of the female argument. But these three are just silly, and have no place in it. They represent desperate scrabbling around to try to prove something. [[User:Prophaniti|Prophaniti]] 22:10, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
:Pikachu is most likely male, since, even though it isn't originally from Sinnoh, its tail would have magically (just the way the anime tends to behave often) become heart-shaped at the end, since a female Pikachu from Hoenn/Kanto in Gen III sent to DP through the Pal Park has its tail change.
::Uh, [[Dawn's Ambipom|Ash's Aipom]] didn't suddenly get the female hair length upon the transition into [[Generation IV]].  It didn't get the female hair length until it was under Dawn's control and it had evolved.
::Your claim that Pikachu's tail would have magically changed suggests that Aipom's hair changed as soon as it got to Sinnoh.  However, Pokémon who were in a certain evolutionary form at the end of [[AG191]] aren't affected by gender differences as long as they remain in that form, and Aipom's the prime example.  Since [[May's Venusaur|May's Bulbasaur]] had evolved after that point, it has the female gender difference.
::However, [[Misty's Politoed]]'s cheeks wouldn't suddenly grow smaller nor would [[Misty's Gyarados]]'s whiskers turn white (if either/or were female) were they to reappear since the former reached final form within Johto and the latter reached final form offscreen no later than early Hoenn; on the flip side, if [[Misty's Goldeen]] were to be a Seaking upon reappearance, its horn would probably be a telltale gender sign since it was still a Goldeen when it last appeared and it could have possibly evolved within the Generation IV timeframe.
::Case in point:  The animators would NEVER "magically" change a Pokémon to reflect a gender difference.  Only evolution can do that.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:11, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::News:All right. Here is the thing. PIKACHU WAS INTRODUCED IN [[Generation 1]], BEFORE GENDER WAS INTRODUCED! IT IS GENDERLESS
If anyone objects this, tell me
:::It's true that Pikachu was introduced in Generation 1, but the thing is... it's debatable as to whether Pikachu's gender differences were made in Gen IV or Gen I (as the episode "Pikachu's Goodbye had some pikachu having bit marks that looked somewhat similar to the female pikachu's split tail. It definitely couldn't have been a puncture wound, as Pikachu's wouldn't have these wounds on the exact same spot.) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 01:24, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Genderless = Magnemite. Pikachu need a gender (hey, I got a Charmander in Yellow, traded it forward to Gold when it was a Charizard, and it was male). Just because Gen I doesn't display gender doesn't mean all Gen I Pokémon are genderless. That's stupid to assume. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:15, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


==Pichu==
==Pichu==
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i can't remimber which episode it was, but i'm sure about the fact that pikachu will never age or get old because he drank some river liquid which made him eternal [[User: Gaiden|Gaiden]] 03:16, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
i can't remimber which episode it was, but i'm sure about the fact that pikachu will never age or get old because he drank some river liquid which made him eternal [[User: Gaiden|Gaiden]] 03:16, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that Pokémon never had the fountain of youth in the anime.  Where'd you hear that? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] <sup>~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]</sup> 22:58, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that Pokémon never had the fountain of youth in the anime.  Where'd you hear that? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] <sup>~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]</sup> 22:58, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
::I actually saw it when the CW Was Kids WB, it wasn't a fountain of youth, but it was a rather strange river that made whoever drank from it eternal, it was possibly in the later or mid parts of indigo... or was it in orange islands? i remember misty and ash being there and another female but my memory is cloudy at that point - [[Gaiden]] 11:26, 04 August 2007 (UTC)
::I actually saw it when the CW Was Kids WB, it wasn't a fountain of youth, but it was a rather strange river that made whoever drank from it eternal, it was possibly in the later or mid parts of indigo... or was it in orange islands? i remember misty and ash being there and another female but my memory is cloudy at that point - {{u|Gaiden}} 11:26, 04 August 2007 (UTC)
:::... I'm pretty sure there's no eternal life river, either, and if there was, they never did anything like make Pikachu special by drinking from it.  Perhaps you've confused some details of another episode? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] <sup>~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]</sup> 17:07, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:::... I'm pretty sure there's no eternal life river, either, and if there was, they never did anything like make Pikachu special by drinking from it.  Perhaps you've confused some details of another episode? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] <sup>~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]</sup> 17:07, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
::::I'm also 100% sure that never happened. I saw almost every episode on KidsWB with the exception of one or two Johto League Champions episodes. I also have a fairly good memory in regards to the episodes. I can't think of any episode where a) Pikachu drank from anything or b) say that it is ageless. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 17:48, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
::::I'm also 100% sure that never happened. I saw almost every episode on KidsWB with the exception of one or two Johto League Champions episodes. I also have a fairly good memory in regards to the episodes. I can't think of any episode where a) Pikachu drank from anything or b) say that it is ageless. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 17:48, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::Alright, it must have been something else then, i could have sworn something like that happened, but i could be thinking of another anime, thanks for your time everyone - [[Gaiden]] 02:51, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::Alright, it must have been something else then, i could have sworn something like that happened, but i could be thinking of another anime, thanks for your time everyone - {{u|Gaiden}} 02:51, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::No problem. You did the right thing by bringing it up on the talk page. Plus, in an anime with over 500 episodes, it's easy to get things mixed up. Don't worry about thinking it actually happened. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::No problem. You did the right thing by bringing it up on the talk page. Plus, in an anime with over 500 episodes, it's easy to get things mixed up. Don't worry about thinking it actually happened. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::I know that it has been a while, but to avoid confusion, scientifically, if Pikachu kept living for,let's say, a thousand years, Pikachu would look VERY old but since the lifre force is eternal, I'm guessing when Pikachu turns to ashes, he's gonna be still alive (ouch) [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="color:#C6D9F0">t</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">δ</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' </sup>[[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 13:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::::::I know that it has been a while, but to avoid confusion, scientifically, if Pikachu kept living for,let's say, a thousand years, Pikachu would look VERY old but since the lifre force is eternal, I'm guessing when Pikachu turns to ashes, he's gonna be still alive (ouch) '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="color:#C6D9F0">t</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">δ</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' </sup> 13:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I believe that Gaiden has simply confused the healing properties of the lake and river in Mewtwo Returns. [[User:Matkin22|Matkin22]] 20:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I believe that Gaiden has simply confused the healing properties of the lake and river in Mewtwo Returns. [[User:Matkin22|Matkin22]] 20:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::i dont think it was a pichu ...not all pikachu are born as pichu ...[[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
Actually, yes they all start out life as Pichu. It's only the Pokémon with pre-evolved forms GenIII and beyond that can be born not as there baby forms i.e. Marill. It doesn't really matter. Ash didn't have Pikachu when it was Pichu so therefore it can't be counted. [[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


==Double-Edge==
==Double-Edge==
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== Evolve? ==
== Evolve? ==


Why does Ash not evolve Pikachu?[[User:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#FF0000">Samrulz</span>]][[User talk:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#00FF00">123</span>]][[Image:Ani151MS.gif]] 05:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Why does Ash not evolve Pikachu?[[User:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#FF0000">Samrulz</span>]][[User talk:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#00FF00">123</span>]] 05:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
:Because Ash is not that type of a trainer. He never forces them to evolve. If they want to evolve, they do so. [[Image:Ani254MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #006666">Jmath</span><sup>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #006699">Talk</span>]]</sup>[[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 13:39, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:Because Ash is not that type of a trainer. He never forces them to evolve. If they want to evolve, they do so. [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #006666">Jmath</span><sup>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #006699">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:39, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


Isn't Ash that doesn't want that Pikachu evolves, it's Pikachu that refuses to do it. Watch the episode when Ash wins his 4th Gym Badge in Kanto. --'''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]]'''15:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Isn't Ash that doesn't want that Pikachu evolves, it's Pikachu that refuses to do it. Watch the episode when Ash wins his 4th Gym Badge in Kanto. --'''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]]'''15:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
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In Electric Shock Showdown, the fourteenth episode of the series, Ash asked Pikachu if it wanted to evolve. He made it very clear that he would let Pikachu decide for itself. Pikachu refused, and that refusal still stands, which is why Pikachu will never evolve. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 15:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
In Electric Shock Showdown, the fourteenth episode of the series, Ash asked Pikachu if it wanted to evolve. He made it very clear that he would let Pikachu decide for itself. Pikachu refused, and that refusal still stands, which is why Pikachu will never evolve. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 15:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


Well, if Pikachu just wants to stay weak then why does Ash still use it? Maybe it will evolve at the end of it?[[User:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#FF0000">Samrulz</span>]][[User talk:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#00FF00">123</span>]][[Image:Ani151MS.gif]] 19:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, if Pikachu just wants to stay weak then why does Ash still use it? Maybe it will evolve at the end of it?[[User:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#FF0000">Samrulz</span>]][[User talk:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#00FF00">123</span>]] 19:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


Because it's his freakin' starter. He loves Pikachu, so he ain't letting go with it. Geez. Power isn't EVERYTHING! [[User:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">TinaTheKirlia</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">♪</span>]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|<span style="color:#E75480;">☆</span>]][[Image:Ani281MS.gif]]</sup> 19:15, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Because it's his freakin' starter. He loves Pikachu, so he ain't letting go with it. Geez. Power isn't EVERYTHING! [[User:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">TinaTheKirlia</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">♪</span>]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|<span style="color:#E75480;">☆</span>]]</sup> 19:15, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


1.That's the problem with Pikachu in the way it is now? Why does it need to evolve? It won't be the same thing if it evolves to a damn Raichu 2.POWER IS EVERYTHING.--'''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]]''' 20:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
1.That's the problem with Pikachu in the way it is now? Why does it need to evolve? It won't be the same thing if it evolves to a damn Raichu 2.POWER IS EVERYTHING.--'''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]]''' 20:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


I know very well that power isn't everything. Like I just said on Ash's discussion page: It depends on both the trainer and the Pokémon. Whats wrong with a Raichu, anyway? I thought that strength would be at least quater of a trainer's goal? Having your Pokémon look nice ain't gonna win you the league.[[User:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#FF0000">Samrulz</span>]][[User talk:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#00FF00">123</span>]][[Image:Ani151MS.gif]] 04:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I know very well that power isn't everything. Like I just said on Ash's discussion page: It depends on both the trainer and the Pokémon. Whats wrong with a Raichu, anyway? I thought that strength would be at least quater of a trainer's goal? Having your Pokémon look nice ain't gonna win you the league.[[User:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#FF0000">Samrulz</span>]][[User talk:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#00FF00">123</span>]] 04:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


Pikachu is powerful as it is. It beat a REGICE, for god's sake!!! [[Image:Ani254MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #006666">Jmath</span><sup>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #006699">Talk</span>]]</sup>[[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 13:39, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Pikachu is powerful as it is. It beat a REGICE, for god's sake!!! [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #006666">Jmath</span><sup>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #006699">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:39, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
If Pikachu doesn't want to evolve, it won't (or if it does, it will possibly be seriously upset about it) [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 12:00, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
If Pikachu doesn't want to evolve, it won't (or if it does, it will possibly be seriously upset about it) [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 12:00, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


Sounds reasonable. I, for one, am a fully evolved Pokémon and don't want to evolve any further! (Okay, maybe it's time I stopped acting liek a Gallade) Look at the episode closely Pikachu wacks the thunderstone away with it tail. Contact with the Thunderstone should evolve it, no? [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="color:#C6D9F0">t</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">δ</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆]</sup>[[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 12:05, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Sounds reasonable. I, for one, am a fully evolved Pokémon and don't want to evolve any further! (Okay, maybe it's time I stopped acting liek a Gallade) Look at the episode closely Pikachu wacks the thunderstone away with it tail. Contact with the Thunderstone should evolve it, no? '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="color:#C6D9F0">t</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">δ</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆]</sup> 12:05, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


Apparently it takes more contact than that. [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 22:39, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Apparently it takes more contact than that. [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 22:39, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
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:[[Anime physics]], plain and simple. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">TTE</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#0000FF">chidna</span>]]''' 22:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:[[Anime physics]], plain and simple. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">TTE</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#0000FF">chidna</span>]]''' 22:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


Also it has some other moves than just electric type moves.[[Image:Ani327MS.gif|idk how to make it the shiny green one]][[Image:Ani113MS.gif|japaneese name was lucky]][[Image:Ani196MS.gif|an espeon]][[User:SLE_aman|<Span style="color: #285189">SLE</span>]][[User Talk:SLE_aman|<span style="color:#222200;">_Aman</span>]][[Image:Ani387MS.gif|my favorite pokemon]]
Also it has some other moves than just electric type moves.[[User:SLE_aman|<Span style="color: #285189">SLE</span>]][[User Talk:SLE_aman|<span style="color:#222200;">_Aman</span>]]
:Yes, but strangely, it has only learned those moves to overcome ROCK Pokémon, rather than ground.  It learned Iron Tail to defeat Roxanne; however, it defeats her Geodude with a Thunder, and only uses Iron Tail to defeat Nosepass, which ironically CAN be hit by electric attacks because it is not half-ground, like other rock types he's fought.  However, since then, Iron Tail has become a Pikachu staple, and is probably their way of getting around future physics errors of this type.  It's just a running mistake or unacknowledged error for the purpose of moving the plot.  Pikachu couldn't defeat Brock's rock and ground types, so it got powered up by Flint's watermill generator training so it now has so much electrical power that it can overcome ground's immunity to electricity.  That's the anime explanation since [[EP005]]. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 17:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, but strangely, it has only learned those moves to overcome ROCK Pokémon, rather than ground.  It learned Iron Tail to defeat Roxanne; however, it defeats her Geodude with a Thunder, and only uses Iron Tail to defeat Nosepass, which ironically CAN be hit by electric attacks because it is not half-ground, like other rock types he's fought.  However, since then, Iron Tail has become a Pikachu staple, and is probably their way of getting around future physics errors of this type.  It's just a running mistake or unacknowledged error for the purpose of moving the plot.  Pikachu couldn't defeat Brock's rock and ground types, so it got powered up by Flint's watermill generator training so it now has so much electrical power that it can overcome ground's immunity to electricity.  That's the anime explanation since [[EP005]]. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 17:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


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I see different parts of this article refer to Pikachu as "it" and "he". Now I'm seriously confused. Which is it already? It or he? Are we relying on the genders that PokeAni gives or not? --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]] 07:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
I see different parts of this article refer to Pikachu as "it" and "he". Now I'm seriously confused. Which is it already? It or he? Are we relying on the genders that PokeAni gives or not? --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]] 07:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


:the gender has not been confirmed......so it's an it. --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy512</span>]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 11:47, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:the gender has not been confirmed......so it's an it. --[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy512</span>]] 11:47, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


::umm... question. If it wasn't confirmed, then wouldn't they remove Pikachu and Ash from the Main cast because they didn't know what Gender it was? I mean, It wouldn't be the first time they would remove a character just because they couldn't figure out how to do something. Take [[Wikipedia:Simone_Deveaux|Simone Deveaux]] from "[[Wikipedia:Heroes_(TV_Series)|Heroes]]", for example. the creators couldn't figure out how to direct her, so they ended up killing her off. I'd say it's Male, considering the whole tail thing (If the writers were able to screw continuity in [[AG134|"A Real Cleffa-hanger]] by having all of the original cast members act as if Cleffa were always in Mt. Moon despite the fact that they should have been clearly surprised that they were even there considering that they weren't there on their first visit to [[Mt. Moon]], they can most certainly add in the whole heart shaped tail and act as though it has always existed. <small>Unsigned comment by {{u|Weedle Mchairybug}}</small>
::umm... question. If it wasn't confirmed, then wouldn't they remove Pikachu and Ash from the Main cast because they didn't know what Gender it was? I mean, It wouldn't be the first time they would remove a character just because they couldn't figure out how to do something. Take [[Wikipedia:Simone_Deveaux|Simone Deveaux]] from "[[Wikipedia:Heroes_(TV_Series)|Heroes]]", for example. the creators couldn't figure out how to direct her, so they ended up killing her off. I'd say it's Male, considering the whole tail thing (If the writers were able to screw continuity in [[AG134|"A Real Cleffa-hanger]] by having all of the original cast members act as if Cleffa were always in Mt. Moon despite the fact that they should have been clearly surprised that they were even there considering that they weren't there on their first visit to [[Mt. Moon]], they can most certainly add in the whole heart shaped tail and act as though it has always existed. <small>Unsigned comment by {{u|Weedle Mchairybug}}</small>
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I'd really like to watch this episode myself but its downloading REALLY slowly at the moment. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]] 09:40, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
I'd really like to watch this episode myself but its downloading REALLY slowly at the moment. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]] 09:40, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:Sure, it might've been "It's you!" or something, but we had Ash "Kengo!", Brock "Kengo!" and then Pikachu "Pi-ka!" so it seems as if that's what Pikachu's calling him. Besides, if "PiPikachu!" can mean "Rocketto-dan!" and "We did it!" at the same time... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 10:34, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:Sure, it might've been "It's you!" or something, but we had Ash "Kengo!", Brock "Kengo!" and then Pikachu "Pi-ka!" so it seems as if that's what Pikachu's calling him. Besides, if "PiPikachu!" can mean "Rocketto-dan!" and "We did it!" at the same time... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 10:34, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


Pi-ka is said all the time. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
Pi-ka is said all the time. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
:No, but ''everyone'' said "KENGO!", which Pikachu followed up with "PI-KA!". Pikachu says "PiPikachu!" when Ash gets a badge, too, but Team Rocket's nowhere to be seen. That's the beauty of speech with three syllables. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 20:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:No, but ''everyone'' said "KENGO!", which Pikachu followed up with "PI-KA!". Pikachu says "PiPikachu!" when Ash gets a badge, too, but Team Rocket's nowhere to be seen. That's the beauty of speech with three syllables. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 20:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


Mabie it was "That guy" [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
Mabie it was "That guy" [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
:Well, what's "that guy" in Japanese? If it's two syllables, sure... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 05:17, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
:Well, what's "that guy" in Japanese? If it's two syllables, sure... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 05:17, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


== Trivia ==
== Trivia ==


Just wanted to know if this is trivia worthy. OK here it goes...Ash's Pikachu has battled all the members of the Electabuzz evolutionary family at one time or the other but has not won even once. (Pikachu battled Rudy's Electabuzz, Gary's Electivire and Paul's Elekid) [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Jmath'''</span>]][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Talk'''</span>]][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 19:21, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Just wanted to know if this is trivia worthy. OK here it goes...Ash's Pikachu has battled all the members of the Electabuzz evolutionary family at one time or the other but has not won even once. (Pikachu battled Rudy's Electabuzz, Gary's Electivire and Paul's Elekid) [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Jmath'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Talk'''</span>]] 19:21, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:I deem that good trivia! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 23:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:I deem that good trivia! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 23:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:: Seconded. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 14:02, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
:: Seconded. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 14:02, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
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::I think that it would beat Paul's Electivire(guess) in the Sinnoh League!-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 06:10, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
::I think that it would beat Paul's Electivire(guess) in the Sinnoh League!-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 06:10, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


:::I have a correction to this little piece of trivia. Although Pikachu hasn't won against very many elevolutions, he has won against at least one. It was in episode 221 A Promise is a Promise during the Master Quest season where Pikachu and Sparky (Richy's Pikachu) defeated Dr. Namba's Electabuzz together. If you were to say that Pikachu has never beat an Elevolution in a 1-on-1 match, then you'd be correct. [[Pikafanman]] 12:47, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I have a correction to this little piece of trivia. Although Pikachu hasn't won against very many elevolutions, he has won against at least one. It was in episode 221 A Promise is a Promise during the Master Quest season where Pikachu and Sparky (Richy's Pikachu) defeated Dr. Namba's Electabuzz together. If you were to say that Pikachu has never beat an Elevolution in a 1-on-1 match, then you'd be correct. {{u|Pikafanman}} 12:47, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


:::: Gah, I hate it when people nitpick trivia. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:18, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::: Gah, I hate it when people nitpick trivia. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:18, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Sorry, but I hate when people say things about Pikachu that aren't true. In fact, I need to change his page. [[Pikafanman]] 10:35, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Sorry, but I hate when people say things about Pikachu that aren't true. In fact, I need to change his page. {{u|Pikafanman}} 10:35, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'm afraid a direct edit to [[Ash's Pikachu]] isn't possible at this time.  It's been protected due to an edit war over what some people believe is it evolving in [[DP074]], despite the fact that such an event has already been disproven.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:38, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'm afraid a direct edit to [[Ash's Pikachu]] isn't possible at this time.  It's been protected due to an edit war over what some people believe is it evolving in [[DP074]], despite the fact that such an event has already been disproven.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:38, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::: Gah, now Fabu-Vinny's removed the trivia in question, when it was saveable with a bit of rewriting. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 20:07, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::: Gah, now Fabu-Vinny's removed the trivia in question, when it was saveable with a bit of rewriting. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 20:07, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
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::::::::: You ''still'' didn't have to remove it... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:29, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::: You ''still'' didn't have to remove it... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:29, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::: It was disproven. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 13:33, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::: It was disproven. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 13:33, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:What was? {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="<nowiki>Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum</span>]]</sc><sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sup>{{{1|13:35 20 Mar 2008}}}'''
:What was? '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="<nowiki>Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum</span>]]</sc><sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sup>{{{1|13:35 20 Mar 2008}}}'''
::...The subject of this discussion. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 13:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::...The subject of this discussion. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 13:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::The trivia in question just needed a little rewording, not being removed completely. [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Jmath'''</span>]][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Talk'''</span>]][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 13:58, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::The trivia in question just needed a little rewording, not being removed completely. [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Jmath'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Talk'''</span>]] 13:58, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:: Exactly. One exception due to different circumstances (the assistance of Sparky) does not disprove the original intent of the trivia. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 23:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:: Exactly. One exception due to different circumstances (the assistance of Sparky) does not disprove the original intent of the trivia. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 23:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


==Speak==
==Speak==


Can you really prove that Pikachu means quick attack when he says the first part of hid name! USeless trivia!--{{Ani|336}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#008000;">'''Darth'''</span>]]{{Ani|157}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Cookie'''</span>]]{{Ani|168}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Monster'''</span>]]{{Ani|141}} 03:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Can you really prove that Pikachu means quick attack when he says the first part of hid name! USeless trivia!--[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#008000;">'''Darth'''</span>]][[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Cookie'''</span>]][[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Monster'''</span>]] 03:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
:If it's said consistently when using the move... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 23:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
:If it's said consistently when using the move... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 23:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
:::But that doesn't really prove anything. My darkrai makes the same noise when I use attacks with it[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''C  '''</span>]] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''Is'''</span>]] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|<span style="color:#000000;">'''for Cookie'''</span>]]
:::But that doesn't really prove anything. My darkrai makes the same noise when I use attacks with it[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''C  '''</span>]] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''Is'''</span>]] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|<span style="color:#000000;">'''for Cookie'''</span>]]
::::Games do not equal anime. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 01:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Games do not equal anime. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 01:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::::That's the sound of the ''move'', not the Pokémon. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 02:19, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::::That's the sound of the ''move'', not the Pokémon. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 02:19, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Oh vell, in my opinion it is junk[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''C  '''</span>]] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''Is'''</span>]] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|<span style="color:#000000;">'''for Cookie'''</span>]]
:::::Oh vell, in my opinion it is junk[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''C  '''</span>]] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''Is'''</span>]] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|<span style="color:#000000;">'''for Cookie'''</span>]]
::::::Not exactly, it could possibly reveal the secret of deciphering the Pokémon language<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|486}}</span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|492}}</span></span> 02:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Not exactly, it could possibly reveal the secret of deciphering the Pokémon language<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;"></span></span> 02:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Think of it this way: Dark Pulse makes the same noise if it's used by Ninetales or by Darkrai. The moves are sound effects-based, there's only like three moves that are based on the cries of the Pokémon, which are far, far, far from the quality of the anime's VAs. Even for Gen IV.
:::::::Think of it this way: Dark Pulse makes the same noise if it's used by Ninetales or by Darkrai. The moves are sound effects-based, there's only like three moves that are based on the cries of the Pokémon, which are far, far, far from the quality of the anime's VAs. Even for Gen IV.
:::::::Pikachu in the games does not make the Thunderbolt noise. It makes Growl, which is basically a warped version of its cry. In the anime, Pikachu speaks in the three syllables of it name. This has meaning, which Ikue Ohtani gives to it. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 02:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Pikachu in the games does not make the Thunderbolt noise. It makes Growl, which is basically a warped version of its cry. In the anime, Pikachu speaks in the three syllables of it name. This has meaning, which Ikue Ohtani gives to it. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 02:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


== Double-Edge (Take 3) ==
== Double-Edge (Take 3) ==
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::::::By that same token, then we must eliminate the gender of May's Venusaur just because none of the characters even called Venusaur a "she", then? Should we eliminate all pokemon with gender confirmed through actions (and in certain cases, physical appearances) just because they never called it by said pokemon's gender pronoun? Honestly, verbal confirmation isn't always the way to tell a pokemon's gender. Besides, ALL CATERPIES had yellow mouths prior to Gen III, and did that really stop the writers/animators from changing Ash's Caterpie's Mouth to make it look like the updated Sugimori design? no it didn't. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::By that same token, then we must eliminate the gender of May's Venusaur just because none of the characters even called Venusaur a "she", then? Should we eliminate all pokemon with gender confirmed through actions (and in certain cases, physical appearances) just because they never called it by said pokemon's gender pronoun? Honestly, verbal confirmation isn't always the way to tell a pokemon's gender. Besides, ALL CATERPIES had yellow mouths prior to Gen III, and did that really stop the writers/animators from changing Ash's Caterpie's Mouth to make it look like the updated Sugimori design? no it didn't. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
*sigh* Good Grief. Look, nobody had a chance to call Venusaur anything. She showed up in one picture for five seconds (which is the only time we've seen her on screen for many, many episodes). And Ash's Caterpie was an equally quick appearence, hasn't been seen since it evolved and could have been the animators not paying attention.
Ash's Pikachu has been constantly on screen for over a decade and ever since it learned Iron Tail its tail has become very, very noticeable. The viewing audience has Pikachu with the same tail for years. Why would they suddenly change it? It's not feasable. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 22:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:You know, I just wanted to say right now that, I watched "Pikachu's Goodbye" recently, and I noticed an intresting little detail: about HALF of the Pikachu Herd in that episode had a tiny split in their tails. I mean, most of their appearance in that episode (save the faraway shots) had half of the Pikachu have a split in their tails, and that was supposed to be made BEFORE Gen IV. This leads me to believe that Pikachu's Gender differences were there since the first season of the anime, and the Games most likely swiped that Idea and claimed it to be their own creation and falsely advertized it to have debuted in Gen IV (hey, if they were able to do that with the Double Battle and act as though it originated in Gen III despite it actually originating in the OI season of the Anime, who says they couldn't have done the same with the Tail thing on Pikachu?)
:Now granted, I don't know if this proves that Pikachu is a male or not, but it is interesting evidence (or at least an interesting detail) to note. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 12:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:: Pics or it didn't happen. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 18:04, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
I always thought Ash's Pikachu was a female because Ritchie's pikachu had a tuft of sticking up hair on its head which makes it seem more like a guy... and it may be assumed that Ash's one is a female because it doesn't have one... but this characteristic is only for Ritchie's Pikachu so I wouldn't say this is a very good argument...
And people are arguing that Pikachu doesn't have a dent on its tail but even if Pikachu's tail isn't dented, they wouldn't change it because everyone knows Pikachu as how it looks like now...
--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 08:24, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
"...the Games most likely swiped that Idea and claimed it to be their own creation and falsely advertized it to have debuted in Gen IV."
Swiped, claimed, falsely advertized. Those are four words that SHOULD NOT be included in that sentence, as:
1. It's the same franchise. It's not swiping.
2. I saw many DP commercials and none mentioned gender differences. Why? BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.
3. Please don't exaggerate it. [[User:Mumbles|Mumbles]] 03:33, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
::I don't know why I'm bringing this up again, but I had watched the Pikachu's Goodbye episode a few days ago, and some Pikachu had  slits in their tails, while others, including Ash's, don't have slits.  So this may prove that they had gender differences for PIKACHU the whole time and just never put it into the games until now.--[[User:Tavisource|<font color="green">☆Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 23:28, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Do you know of a site that allows good-quality screenshots for Pikachu's Goodbye? I want to use a couple of screenshots as proof since Cassius335 thinks that, if I don't have Pics, it didn't happen (I can't use Serebii.net since they don't seem to allow you to copy/click the pictures and transfer them, and that's the only site that has a decent amount of Pokemon Pics.) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:08, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
::::You could always go into the Temporary Internet Files.  On IE7, you can get there through Tools → Internet Options, then "Settings" under Browsing history, and "View files" in the dialog box that appears.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:30, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Ok, I did that, but the size of the thing was too dang impossible to find what I was looking for. If you can't tell me an internet site, can you at least tell me if I can search the View Files? [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:26, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
A point of evidence towards Pikachu being male (or at least genderles) is EP052, ''Princess vs. Princess''.  Pikachu is seen throughout the episode carrying bags & boxes along the rest of the male cast, as the narrator says "[During the festival]...if you're a male, well, you get to carry packages."  An old episode, but a fairly strong bit of evidence.
(Also: after reading through the discussion page here, I took a look at the line in question from ''Electric Soldier Porygon''.  Nurse Joy's response to Ash makes no direct reference to Pikachu at all, let alone one featuring a gender-specific pronoun, which the Japanese language is not big on.  A more accurate translation would be along the lines of "I'll get right on that" or "I'll do my best".) [[User:A L R|A L R]] 14:26, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
I think Ash's Pikachu is male. Why? (first point is propably, second is possible).
#In Pokemon Yellow Pikachu love to Clefairy in Vermilion Fan Club.
#In PKMN Trainer RED team Pikachu is male. [[User:Era64|Era64]] 11:19, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
==Pikachu's name for Ash==
There seems to be no saying for Ash's name, but I believe that the phrase "pika-pi" is used for Ash.  In the first movie, when Ash is turned into stone, the first thing it says is "PIKA-PI", and the only logical thing to say there would be his name, or NO, but he also says it as he's trying to wake Ash up, repeating "pika-pi" many times throughout the couple of minutes.  Can't really think of anywhere else, I haven't watched the anime in a while. {{unsigned|Duzzlight}}
:Actually, it does. Read the opening paragraph to that piece of trivia. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 23:32, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
== Leer ==
Are we sure Pikachu used Leer in the Episode mentioned? If so, that's another move that Pikachu can't normally learn. Probably would explain why it has only be used once. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 01:35, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
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