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On the Japanese site PokeAni in states that Pikachu is a male.[http://www.pokeani.com/poke/r_p-satoshi1.html][[User:Ninja Hanako|Ninja Hanako]] 08:26, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 
:It's jsut a fansite...[[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000033">A</span><span style="color:#003366">g</span><span style="color:#215670">e</span><span style="color:#006699">n</span><span style="color:#2D6E89">t</span>]] [[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#0066CC">#</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#3D81EE">4</span>]][[Lucario (anime)|<span style="color:#66B5FF">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#99C9FF">8</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Manual of style|<span style=" color:#C3D9FF;">♂</span>]]''' <sup>[[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color:#B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#66FF00;">E</span>]] | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆]</sup>[[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 08:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
::Buneary's a girl! Therefore, Pikachu's a guy. And... well, the PUSA dub certainly would follow the ''official'' story more closely, I'd imagine, being that it's being run by Pokémon USA. Not to bash 4Kids at all, but PUSA knows what they're doing with their own franchise. No Seviper errors here. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 20:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::: Evidence, however logical, is not proof. While I do see the case for "Pikachu is male", frankly I'd personally rather wait for Word Of God or a direct mention in the jp anime before saying it's proven. The absence of official word makes me think the Japanese writers etc might be up to something. [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 22:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::::I agree. Though I do think that Pikachu is in fact male, there is NO PROOF to back it up. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 23:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Which is exactly why I, begrudgingly, leave it as "Unknown"... though the "first nine seasons" debate is pretty much the [[a:Image:Spr 3r 025.png|worst ever...]] <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 09:39, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::No Seviper errors? The "Arbok" of ''Mystery Dungeon'' says hi.
::::::And the split tail argument is weakest of all given that the writers have purposefully avoided the issue so far.
::::::Yes, Buneary is probably a girl since it wore a dress and Pikachu is probably a boy anyway. But your logic is weak. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 10:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Ok, I was watching the Japanese version of '''{{tt|Computer|Electric?}} Soldier Porygon''' and towards the end when Ash goes to hand Pikachu in, Nurse Joy refers to Pikachu as a boy. She says, and I quote the English translation, "''We'll look after him''". It may not be efficient evidence, but I think it does have some value. <span style="background:#000000"><big>{{ani|486}}<small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|377}}<small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|378}}<small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|379}}</big></span> 21:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:No, that's good evidence!--'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 00:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 
SIT, Pikachu is probly maile but we need more info first. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
:You can't go by what a fansub said. For all you know they just could of wrote down "he" because the fansubber assumed that Pikachu was a boy. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 01:13, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 
XD Perhaps... more investigating! <span style="background:#000000"><big>{{ani|486}}<small>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#B8A038;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|377}}<small>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#8ECECE;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|378}}<small>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#B8B8D0;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</small>{{ani|379}}</big></span> 18:32, 8 January 2008 (UTC) "''I just wanna live!!''"
 
I will say this for the people who have been argueing of Pikachu's gender. Pikachu, although never physically said, is in fact a male. Proof is shown of why Buneary likes him. Though some will say Buneary is a boy, proof of her being a girl is in episode #505 "Steamboat Willies!" Happiny, a (now revealed to be famale) Aipom, and Buneary get in dresses. When Dawn sees she says "You girls look so cute." directly to the Pokemon. While he is male, it has never been said of boy or girl, and the writers do not say so to make Pikachu more relatable.--[[User:Sh313|Sh313]] 01:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)SH313
:::::Alright, it must have been something else then, i could have sworn something like that happened, but i could be thinking of another anime, thanks for your time everyone - {{u|Gaiden}} 02:51, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::No problem. You did the right thing by bringing it up on the talk page. Plus, in an anime with over 500 episodes, it's easy to get things mixed up. Don't worry about thinking it actually happened. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 19:54, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::I know that it has been a while, but to avoid confusion, scientifically, if Pikachu kept living for,let's say, a thousand years, Pikachu would look VERY old but since the lifre force is eternal, I'm guessing when Pikachu turns to ashes, he's gonna be still alive (ouch) [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="color:#C6D9F0">t</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">δ</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' </sup>[[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 13:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I believe that Gaiden has simply confused the healing properties of the lake and river in Mewtwo Returns. [[User:Matkin22|Matkin22]] 20:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::i dont think it was a pichu ...not all pikachu are born as pichu ...[[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
== Evolve? ==
 
Why does Ash not evolve Pikachu?[[User:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#FF0000">Samrulz</span>]][[User talk:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#00FF00">123</span>]][[Image:Ani151MS.gif]] 05:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
:Because Ash is not that type of a trainer. He never forces them to evolve. If they want to evolve, they do so. [[Image:Ani254MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #006666">Jmath</span><sup>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #006699">Talk</span>]]</sup>[[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 13:39, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 
Isn't Ash that doesn't want that Pikachu evolves, it's Pikachu that refuses to do it. Watch the episode when Ash wins his 4th Gym Badge in Kanto. --'''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]]'''15:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
In Electric Shock Showdown, the fourteenth episode of the series, Ash asked Pikachu if it wanted to evolve. He made it very clear that he would let Pikachu decide for itself. Pikachu refused, and that refusal still stands, which is why Pikachu will never evolve. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 15:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 
Well, if Pikachu just wants to stay weak then why does Ash still use it? Maybe it will evolve at the end of it?[[User:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#FF0000">Samrulz</span>]][[User talk:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#00FF00">123</span>]][[Image:Ani151MS.gif]] 19:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 
Because it's his freakin' starter. He loves Pikachu, so he ain't letting go with it. Geez. Power isn't EVERYTHING! [[User:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">TinaTheKirlia</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|<span style="color:#E75480;">♪</span>]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|<span style="color:#E75480;">☆</span>]][[Image:Ani281MS.gif]]</sup> 19:15, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 
1.That's the problem with Pikachu in the way it is now? Why does it need to evolve? It won't be the same thing if it evolves to a damn Raichu 2.POWER IS EVERYTHING.--'''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]]''' 20:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 
I know very well that power isn't everything. Like I just said on Ash's discussion page: It depends on both the trainer and the Pokémon. Whats wrong with a Raichu, anyway? I thought that strength would be at least quater of a trainer's goal? Having your Pokémon look nice ain't gonna win you the league.[[User:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#FF0000">Samrulz</span>]][[User talk:Samrulz123|<span style="color:#00FF00">123</span>]][[Image:Ani151MS.gif]] 04:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 
Pikachu is powerful as it is. It beat a REGICE, for god's sake!!! [[Image:Ani254MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #006666">Jmath</span><sup>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #006699">Talk</span>]]</sup>[[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 13:39, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
If Pikachu doesn't want to evolve, it won't (or if it does, it will possibly be seriously upset about it) [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 12:00, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 
Sounds reasonable. I, for one, am a fully evolved Pokémon and don't want to evolve any further! (Okay, maybe it's time I stopped acting liek a Gallade) Look at the episode closely Pikachu wacks the thunderstone away with it tail. Contact with the Thunderstone should evolve it, no? [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]][[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">A</span><span style="color:#17365D">g</span><span style="color:#549DD4">e</span><span style="color:#8DB3E2">n</span><span style="color:#C6D9F0">t</span>]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|<span style="color:#000080">4</span>]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#000080">8</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Optimus35|<span style="color:#000080">δ</span>]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&amp;Pearl|<span style="color: #B0E0E6">D</span><span style="color: #FFC0CB">P</span>]]''' | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆]</sup>[[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 12:05, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 
Apparently it takes more contact than that. [[User:Cassius335|Cassius335]] 22:39, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
:[[Anime physics]], plain and simple. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">TTE</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#0000FF">chidna</span>]]''' 22:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 
Also it has some other moves than just electric type moves.[[Image:Ani327MS.gif|idk how to make it the shiny green one]][[Image:Ani113MS.gif|japaneese name was lucky]][[Image:Ani196MS.gif|an espeon]][[User:SLE_aman|<Span style="color: #285189">SLE</span>]][[User Talk:SLE_aman|<span style="color:#222200;">_Aman</span>]][[Image:Ani387MS.gif|my favorite pokemon]]
:Yes, but strangely, it has only learned those moves to overcome ROCK Pokémon, rather than ground. It learned Iron Tail to defeat Roxanne; however, it defeats her Geodude with a Thunder, and only uses Iron Tail to defeat Nosepass, which ironically CAN be hit by electric attacks because it is not half-ground, like other rock types he's fought. However, since then, Iron Tail has become a Pikachu staple, and is probably their way of getting around future physics errors of this type. It's just a running mistake or unacknowledged error for the purpose of moving the plot. Pikachu couldn't defeat Brock's rock and ground types, so it got powered up by Flint's watermill generator training so it now has so much electrical power that it can overcome ground's immunity to electricity. That's the anime explanation since [[EP005]]. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 17:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 
I see different parts of this article refer to Pikachu as "it" and "he". Now I'm seriously confused. Which is it already? It or he? Are we relying on the genders that PokeAni gives or not? --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]] 07:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 
:the gender has not been confirmed......so it's an it. --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy512</span>]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 11:47, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 
::umm... question. If it wasn't confirmed, then wouldn't they remove Pikachu and Ash from the Main cast because they didn't know what Gender it was? I mean, It wouldn't be the first time they would remove a character just because they couldn't figure out how to do something. Take [[Wikipedia:Simone_Deveaux|Simone Deveaux]] from "[[Wikipedia:Heroes_(TV_Series)|Heroes]]", for example. the creators couldn't figure out how to direct her, so they ended up killing her off. I'd say it's Male, considering the whole tail thing (If the writers were able to screw continuity in [[AG134|"A Real Cleffa-hanger]] by having all of the original cast members act as if Cleffa were always in Mt. Moon despite the fact that they should have been clearly surprised that they were even there considering that they weren't there on their first visit to [[Mt. Moon]], they can most certainly add in the whole heart shaped tail and act as though it has always existed. <small>Unsigned comment by {{u|Weedle Mchairybug}}</small>
 
I'd really like to watch this episode myself but its downloading REALLY slowly at the moment. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#0005CD;">☆</span>]][[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#15E200;">ケンジ</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#DC0062;">ガール</span>]] 09:40, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
:Sure, it might've been "It's you!" or something, but we had Ash "Kengo!", Brock "Kengo!" and then Pikachu "Pi-ka!" so it seems as if that's what Pikachu's calling him. Besides, if "PiPikachu!" can mean "Rocketto-dan!" and "We did it!" at the same time... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 10:34, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 
Pi-ka is said all the time. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
:No, but ''everyone'' said "KENGO!", which Pikachu followed up with "PI-KA!". Pikachu says "PiPikachu!" when Ash gets a badge, too, but Team Rocket's nowhere to be seen. That's the beauty of speech with three syllables. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 20:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
 
Mabie it was "That guy" [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
:Well, what's "that guy" in Japanese? If it's two syllables, sure... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 05:17, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
 
== Trivia ==
 
Just wanted to know if this is trivia worthy. OK here it goes...Ash's Pikachu has battled all the members of the Electabuzz evolutionary family at one time or the other but has not won even once. (Pikachu battled Rudy's Electabuzz, Gary's Electivire and Paul's Elekid) [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Jmath'''</span>]][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Talk'''</span>]][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 19:21, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:I deem that good trivia! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User talk:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 23:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
:: Seconded. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 14:02, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::: You ''still'' didn't have to remove it... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:29, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::: It was disproven. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 13:33, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:What was? {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="<nowiki>Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum</span>]]</sc><sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sup>{{{1|13:35 20 Mar 2008}}}'''
::...The subject of this discussion. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]</sup> 13:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:::The trivia in question just needed a little rewording, not being removed completely. [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Jmath'''</span>]][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #336699">'''Talk'''</span>]][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 13:58, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
:: Exactly. One exception due to different circumstances (the assistance of Sparky) does not disprove the original intent of the trivia. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 23:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 
==Speak==
 
Can you really prove that Pikachu means quick attack when he says the first part of hid name! USeless trivia!--{{Ani|336}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#008000;">'''Darth'''</span>]]{{Ani|157}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#FF0000;">'''Cookie'''</span>]]{{Ani|168}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|<span style="color:#0000FF;">'''Monster'''</span>]]{{Ani|141}} 03:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
:If it's said consistently when using the move... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 23:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
:::But that doesn't really prove anything. My darkrai makes the same noise when I use attacks with it[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''C '''</span>]] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''Is'''</span>]] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|<span style="color:#000000;">'''for Cookie'''</span>]]
::::Games do not equal anime. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] <sup>[[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]]</sup> 01:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
::::That's the sound of the ''move'', not the Pokémon. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 02:19, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Oh vell, in my opinion it is junk[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''C '''</span>]] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|<span style="color:#000000;">'''Is'''</span>]] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|<span style="color:#000000;">'''for Cookie'''</span>]]
::::::Not exactly, it could possibly reveal the secret of deciphering the Pokémon language<span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|486}}</span></span><span style="background:#00FFFF;">[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sup><big>'''''Poke'''''</big></sup></span>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;">'''''Maniac'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#A0C0F8;"><sub><big>'''''102'''''</big></sub></span>]]</span><span style="background:#11FF6C;"><span style="border: 3px solid #A8FF8C;">{{ani|492}}</span></span> 02:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Think of it this way: Dark Pulse makes the same noise if it's used by Ninetales or by Darkrai. The moves are sound effects-based, there's only like three moves that are based on the cries of the Pokémon, which are far, far, far from the quality of the anime's VAs. Even for Gen IV.
:::::::Pikachu in the games does not make the Thunderbolt noise. It makes Growl, which is basically a warped version of its cry. In the anime, Pikachu speaks in the three syllables of it name. This has meaning, which Ikue Ohtani gives to it. <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span>{{ani|155|Fire echy}}<span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 02:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
 
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