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What kind of subjetcive proof do you need for Laventon? None of these characters are confirmed to be ancestors. Did you even read the talk page?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 21:03, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
What kind of subjetcive proof do you need for Laventon? None of these characters are confirmed to be ancestors. Did you even read the talk page?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 21:03, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
:The same kind of "proof" the others have. But insisting that there has to be an ancestor from every region is arbitrary. Why aren't you arguing that Iscan is Nessa's ancestor if you need one from Galar so badly? Better proof (dark skin, blue hair, water types), even if that proof is just as weak as your talking points. Leon and Hop have pretty unique designs; outside the skin color, none of those design elements were adopted. Yes, yes, "But the lavender! The purple!" That's stretching so hard, man. The colors aren't even the same; and Hop and Leon aren't even associated with purple outside their hair. All it would have taken for Laventon's lineage to be cemented was having them share the same eyes. Even more stand-out than the style of bangs Hop and Leon share are how their eyes are designed.
:LA doesn't shy away from making most of the characters-considered-ancestors near carbon copies of those they resemble, and the ones that aren't have elements that don't make it a coincidence, to a degree we're just as comfortable with the speculative wording on their pages as we are with the carbon copies (Pesselle and Beni's possible double-ancestry not withstanding). Laventon shares nothing unique with them. The facial hair isn't the same as Leon's, nothing on the hat mirrors Leon and Hop's designs, and Hop wanting to be a professor is never connected back to "my great+ grandpa was one" so that's just a reach. There is no foundation of an argument here to even allow for "they resemble each other, but their connection is unknown" on the page. Because there's no resemblance. There's just none. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 22:15, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
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