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:::::Sorry for necro-posting here, but I think Foxsong's comparison image is correct, and it's about time Orre gets a proper update. The section currently up is assuming Mt. Battle is to the north, which would put the sea to the west, but when you flip Orre's map counter-clockwise, leaving Pheonix in the vicinity of Phenac, it actually matches up nearly perfectly with a section of Arizona and Mexico. Gateon Port is placed near Fondeport in San Felipe, Pyrite town is right between Los Vidrios (a road originally used for smuggling) and Sonoyta, an old mining town commonly used to cross the border illegally. Agate Village lands right around Yuma (A bustling desert town that used it's placement on the river to create vast farmland. Yuma was also originally inhabited for thousands of years by Native Americans, whose descendants still live in a reservation in Yuma, possibly inspiration for the elders of Agate. It's also right along the outskirts of Kofa Wildlife Refuge, where Mt. Battle lands, which has no volcanoes, but is a generally mountainous area. Also worth noting is that this places the Outskirt stand right around Black Canyon City, a small town north of Phoenix that was once a popular stop along the railway from Pheonix to Prescott. Furthermore, the home of 2 of the first inhabitants still stands as ruins that don't look unlike the rubble behind the train. [[User:PartyTom|PartyTom]] ([[User talk:PartyTom|talk]]) 17:23, 27 June 2020 (UTC) | :::::Sorry for necro-posting here, but I think Foxsong's comparison image is correct, and it's about time Orre gets a proper update. The section currently up is assuming Mt. Battle is to the north, which would put the sea to the west, but when you flip Orre's map counter-clockwise, leaving Pheonix in the vicinity of Phenac, it actually matches up nearly perfectly with a section of Arizona and Mexico. Gateon Port is placed near Fondeport in San Felipe, Pyrite town is right between Los Vidrios (a road originally used for smuggling) and Sonoyta, an old mining town commonly used to cross the border illegally. Agate Village lands right around Yuma (A bustling desert town that used it's placement on the river to create vast farmland. Yuma was also originally inhabited for thousands of years by Native Americans, whose descendants still live in a reservation in Yuma, possibly inspiration for the elders of Agate. It's also right along the outskirts of Kofa Wildlife Refuge, where Mt. Battle lands, which has no volcanoes, but is a generally mountainous area. Also worth noting is that this places the Outskirt stand right around Black Canyon City, a small town north of Phoenix that was once a popular stop along the railway from Pheonix to Prescott. Furthermore, the home of 2 of the first inhabitants still stands as ruins that don't look unlike the rubble behind the train. [[User:PartyTom|PartyTom]] ([[User talk:PartyTom|talk]]) 17:23, 27 June 2020 (UTC) | ||
::::::That's all assuming Orre is supposed to be 1:1 to the exact locations around the Gulf of California rotated clockwise, which isn't necessarily the case, especially since Orre looked completely different in Colosseum. Most of this article is speculation anyway so I don't really have any problem with your ideas besides Yuma and Kofa Wildlife Refuge, as Flagstaff and Agate are WAY more similar than Yuma and Agate, and I'm not sure what Kofa has anything to do with Mt. Battle besides being generally mountainous and in the same location (again, assuming that Orre is 1:1 to the Gulf of California rotated clockwise, when the body of water wasn't even present in Colosseum, the game those areas were originally made for) | ::::::That's all assuming Orre is supposed to be 1:1 to the exact locations around the Gulf of California rotated clockwise, which isn't necessarily the case, especially since Orre looked completely different in Colosseum. Most of this article is speculation anyway so I don't really have any problem with your ideas besides Yuma and Kofa Wildlife Refuge, as Flagstaff and Agate are WAY more similar than Yuma and Agate, and I'm not sure what Kofa has anything to do with Mt. Battle besides being generally mountainous and in the same location (again, assuming that Orre is 1:1 to the Gulf of California rotated clockwise, when the body of water wasn't even present in Colosseum, the game those areas were originally made for). --[[User:Poliwhirl|Poliwhirl]] ([[User talk:Poliwhirl|talk]]) 09:41, 7 December 2022 (UTC), edited 10:35, 7 December 2022 (UTC) | ||
:::::::I'd avoid being so literal with the locations considering the differences between the two games, and Genius Sonority only stating that Orre was inspired by Phoenix without mentioning any surrounding areas or any basis on geography. {{unsigned|Poliwhirl}} | |||
:::::::I would argue that Orre's differences between games can be chalked up to a simple revision of the map. The first game reflected the same section of Arizona, still pretty directly, and it seems all XD did was expand that section but kind of stretched the landmarks across it, if that makes sense. This image can show pretty clearly what I mean. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENmkUubU0AARXFa?format=jpg&name=large | ::::::::I would argue that Orre's differences between games can be chalked up to a simple revision of the map. The first game reflected the same section of Arizona, still pretty directly, and it seems all XD did was expand that section but kind of stretched the landmarks across it, if that makes sense. This image can show pretty clearly what I mean. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENmkUubU0AARXFa?format=jpg&name=large | ||
:::::::Ignore the quote, it's just the only good image I could find without making one atm. That said, yeah, I think you're correct about not taking locations as their literal physical counterpart, but I kind of wrote everything one night just to finally see it get touched up. Appreciate the feedback, and improvements. [[User:PartyTom|PartyTom]] ([[User talk:PartyTom|talk]]) 10:30, 4 March 2023 (UTC) | :::::::::Ignore the quote, it's just the only good image I could find without making one atm. That said, yeah, I think you're correct about not taking locations as their literal physical counterpart, but I kind of wrote everything one night just to finally see it get touched up. Appreciate the feedback, and improvements. [[User:PartyTom|PartyTom]] ([[User talk:PartyTom|talk]]) 10:30, 4 March 2023 (UTC) | ||
::::::::The picture is kind of misleading since I think the first map is an elevation map, where green denotes a lower elevation, while in the second map the green part denotes forests. Similar maps of Arizona show green areas north and east of Phoenix, not southwest. Though either way, it doesn't line up with Orre. --[[User:Poliwhirl|Poliwhirl]] ([[User talk:Poliwhirl|talk]]) 04:50, 19 March 2023 (UTC) | :::::::::::The picture is kind of misleading since I think the first map is an elevation map, where green denotes a lower elevation, while in the second map the green part denotes forests. Similar maps of Arizona show green areas north and east of Phoenix, not southwest. Though either way, it doesn't line up with Orre. --[[User:Poliwhirl|Poliwhirl]] ([[User talk:Poliwhirl|talk]]) 04:50, 19 March 2023 (UTC) | ||
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