Talk:Battle Frontier (Generation IV)

Previous discussion

• Sinnoh - pre-merge discussion while this page was Battle Frontier (Sinnoh)
• Johto - pre-merge discussion from Battle Frontier (Johto) (including the vote to merge)

Map Picture of where the Frontier is in Johto

the picture to side where it says Location in Sinnoh and Johto is untrue, it only shows its location in Sinnoh we that line changed until we have a map picture of the location in Johto. --DSDark 20:52, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Battle Frontier artwork

The artwork of the Battle Frontier appears twice in this article, and they state two different illustrators. Which one is the real illustrator, and is it necessary to have two? --Angela-Samshi 20:40, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

It's not necessary. And the pic is by Midori Harada. —darklordtrom 20:43, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Battle Hall Fans

Just wondering if anyone else playing the main male character in Platinum has Serena. The article says that guys get Winston. Has someone got the genders the wrong way around?--D i o n 2 4 04:28, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

something's up

for some reason, even after defeating 21 trainers in the battle arcade i didn't get a silver print or get challenged by the arcade brain. why?--Fern 24 15:45, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Did you battle them without stoping? if not, she won't challenge you. Shiny Pika 23:10, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it doesn't matter if you stop. You can stop and take a rest. It matters if you won them consecutively, as in did you win them in a row or did you lose some in between? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 23:14, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

shnies in the factory

today i went to challenge the battle factory, defeated this one trainer who had a regular cubone. i decided that i was going to trade for it but i had to rest because i had to go somewhere. i came back, traded for the cubone and found out it was SHINY! so does this mean that the factory gives you different pokemon from those that you battled? heres the battle video number for one of the battles i used the cubone: 78-50402-72221. i lost though so i dont have the cubone any more : ( Fudgenuggets 07:18, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Pokémon can appear Shiny in the Battle Frontier as well as in the wild, so you aren't very lucky you saw one there. Your Cubone was shiny because when you continued from your Save, the RNG (Random Number Generator) made the Cubone shiny. Shinytwo 16:44, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't see how he's not lucky, that seems very lucky to me, how many random shinies do you see? Malake256 19:07, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Shinies are rare, nothing more. They're not stronger or anything. And yes, you can find them in the Battle Frontier. It's rare, but it happens. R.A. Hunter Blade 19:14, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Shinies have the same chance of appearing in the battle frontier as in the wild, but it might only be possible in the battle hall and factory, why battle hall? the opponent, I seem to remember battleing Argenta as she used a shiny Regice without sparkles.--Pika3323 00:41, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Stat Judge Needs More Info

(I actually edited the page, but changed it back after I realized this was a Featured Article...)

The Stat Judge section is dangerously empty. He is extremely useful for breeding for IVs, and the section should have a table of the things he says - maybe even a page of his own. This is the only mention of him. Here's what the Platinum Player's Guide says (so far, it seems correct).

Overall Stats	Highest Stat
Decent	Rather Decent
Above Average	Very Good
Outstanding	Fantastic
Relatively Superior	Can't Be Better

Sorry, I'm a newb to editing Bulbapedia. Does my name get attached to this??

--User:Dsaerno

Actually, If the highest stats have the same number, the stats judge will say them according to this order: HP, Atk, Def, Sp.Atk, Sp.Def and Spe. E.g. 31 IVs in Atk and Speed would mean that he would say "It can't be better" for Atk first then Spe second, also by the looks of it, the stats judge seems to be a legit checker considering the fact that a hacked "flawless" Pokemon will have an outstanding rating but the stats judge will only say "It can't be better" for one stat, not all of them, whereas for a legit Pokemon, that stats judge will actually mention all of them. --Animecheck 06:09, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Battle Factory etc.. in Diamond?

Hi there.
I'm looking for the Battle Factory in Diamond, however I can only see the Battle Tower in the Battle Park..
Is the Battle Factory actually in Diamond, or is it Platinum only?
Cheers.
Smashman 12:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

This isn't the place to ask those type of questions, also please read the article. insomniac

It seems like a perfectly good place to ask.. I also read the article, it didn't seem clear to me. Smashman 10:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

It's only in Platinum.--ForceFire 10:57, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't believe this "it didn't seem clear". It says right at the top of the article. "The Battle Frontier is a special post-league area featured in the Generation IV games, Pokémon Platinum and HeartGold and SoulSilver." -Sketch 11:50, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I see. Thanks. Seems a shame.. Smashman 12:58, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Battle Arcade error?

Is there any reason to actually believe the BP spaces on the board allow you to skip battles? I just did 28 rounds of Battle Arcade today and every time I hit the BP space, I still had to battle. --The Great Butler 03:59, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

You don't skip battles, I'm just about to edit that out. I'm wondering this stemmed from, the first result on Google for "Battle arcade" is a page that says the same thing. --Cyberdude93 08:27, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

It says you battle the brain in Sinnoh after 21 battles, but I am at 28, and I haven't seen her. Gliscorguy54 22:12, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Have you had 21 consecutive wins? If you lose the number resets to zero. I've definitely battled her on my third time through. Werdnae (talk) 23:02, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

They were consecutive, and by the way, you can bring 4 pokemon to the Tower in Platinum, I am doing it right now. Gliscorguy54 00:05, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Four Pokémon. . . isn't that double battle mode? The frontier brains only appear on Single player Single battle mode. Werdnae (talk) 00:22, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Really? That stinks. Well, I'll try again. Gliscorguy54 21:46, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Gaining fans

In Battle Hall, what fans are gained in HGSS? ^ht14 01:07, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

BP

For amount of BP gained, could we say "Plenty" instead of "Lots." It just sounds more educated. WeavilePwns 00:29, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

"Plenty" connotes "enough". Ambiguity is the poor man's eloquence. --PLA 16:40, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Shedinja in Battle Arcade

If you're in the Battle Arcade with a Shedinja, and hit the button which causes your team to lose some HP, will Shedinja faint before it is sent out, or right after? Shinytwo 20:15, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

That event lowers HP by 20%. 20% of 1HP is less than 1HP, so Shedinja shouldn't lose anything at all. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 23:38, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Tauros in Battle Tower

Just tried to enter Johto Battle Tower with Tauros, was notified it was banned. No info here, looking for confirmation. CommanderRook 19:09, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

You probably had a repeated item on it. You can't use the same item on more than one Pokemon - unsigned comment from Malake256 (talk • contribs)

Battle Arcade Game Board Pictures

It would be nice to see what the effect's pictures are. Can someone upload them. that would help greatly. Thanks!! --Moretacos 02:19, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Accuracy with Battle Castle Rewards?

Okay, so I just finished a battle in the Battle Castle, and using the table, I should have received 49 CP. However, I only got 43. No Pokémon fainted (9), they all started and finished with full health (9), 2 Pokémon did not recieve status ailments (2), I won using only 4 PP (8), and all 3 of the opponent's Pokémon had their levels raised (21). By my math, 9+9+2+8+21=49. Clearly, there is either some error in these numbers, or there are unknown conditions that can be met to recieve CP. I have no means to do so, but this should be looked into. If it helps, I was playing Heart Gold. Sidnoea 06:03, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Two legendarys

So, if in the battle hall, you enter a double battle, you require two of the same pokemon? right? so, when battling, the trainer has the same pokemon, same level, different genders. does this mean that argenta could have (when battled) 2 regices?--Pika3323 01:25, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

You're not allowed to have two of the same Pokémon in any facility. ^ht14 01:32, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

But in the battle hall it says that you must have two of the same pokemon so a togekiss and a togekiss.--Pika3323 01:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes you could battle someone with 2 legendaries. Pikiwyn ^talk 09:31, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Just another question, who is "Serena"?--Pika3323 23:23, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

She's a fan. Pikiwyn ^talk 13:37, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Manga

I make a manga place of the battle frontier.- unsigned comment from Nazirbashir (talk • contribs)

Huh?

How is this article a featured article but is also incomplete at the same time? :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 13:41, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

It became a featured article a long time ago. Featured articles keep their featured status. The incomplete template is more recent. I don't know, but it could possibly have been a featured article before it appeared in a manga, making it complete at the time of featuring. Werdnae (talk) 20:41, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Legendary Beasts

In Heartgold, I found that the sniny legendary beasts that were given out through a mystery gift event can participate. Should this be noted? Pgj1997 18:30, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

No. The Beasts are already allowed to enter, shiny or not. --P S Y_ライダー☮ 18:37, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Battle Hall mistake?

In the description for the Battle Hall says it is the only place in the Battle Frontier that can have pokémon at higher than level 50, but the Battle Arcade can make pokémon be level 53. Should this be changed? --Bulbachartortle 17:09, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Trick Room

In Battle Arcade, the option to begin with Trick Room, is it permanent, or lasts the usual times of the Trick Room?--Igor (talk) 02:15, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Consecutive Battles

I noticed that it says you fight the Frontier Brain after 21 (or 50) consecutive battles, but when I did it in the Battle Tower, Palmer was the twenty first and in the Battle Hall, Argenta was the fiftieth. Did I read the article wrong or is that a mistake?--William slattery (talk) 06:47, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Every Brain is fought after winning 21 battles in a row, except Argenta who requires a streak of 50. The reason for that is because you get to choose what Type you'll be fighting, which makes it a lot simpler than the other three facilities to get a long streak going. R.A. Hunter Blade 18:28, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

I think Rocket Admin Hunter Blade misunderstood your question. Yes, Palmer is the 21st opponent, rather than appearing after winning 21 battles, so you technically only need a streak of 21 to battle him (the same goes for Argenta). The page should probably be clearer about that. --SnorlaxMonster 12:38, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

A question

Can you battle in other battle areas (Factory, Hall, Castle...) without breaking the streak of 21 or 50? Thanks-Eeveewithwings123 (talk) 18:22, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Each battle facility records a separate streak, so you can have 7 in the Tower, 21 in the Hall, etc., without any of the others being reset or overwritten. They're only reset when you lose during a current streak in that specific facility. R.A. Hunter Blade 22:12, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Not only each facility either, each mode in each facility. You can lose in the Double Battle mode and still keep your Single Battle streak. --SnorlaxMonster 12:38, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Battle Arcade

With respect to the "Lowers foes'/allies' HP" function in the roulette, since this lowers HP by 20%, what effect does this have on Shedinja? ^ht14 03:16, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

List of Pokémon

I created a List of Battle Frontier Pokémon if anyone wants to see. Better late than never :) TehPerson (talk) 06:54, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Hey. I was going to make this same thing as you did, until I saw your link. I really wish the site admins would treat this more seriously. Your list is a tremendous help and you beat me to it by a few months! Currently trying to get Gold in Pokemon Platinum's Battle Factory.

Anyway, thanks!

Mcheetah (talk) 05:55, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Article split

I made draft of all the pages for if and when it's decided to split the article by facilities:

• User:TehPerson/Battle Frontier (Generation IV)
• User:TehPerson/Battle Tower (Generation IV)
• User:TehPerson/Battle Factory (Generation IV)
• User:TehPerson/Battle Arcade
• User:TehPerson/Battle Castle
• User:TehPerson/Battle Hall

TehPerson (talk) 03:57, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

I agree that this article needs to be split up. The "Facilities" section is very cluttered with content and looks overwhelming to read on its own. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 20:07, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

It was previously decided that due to how little content there would be per page, it wasn't a good idea to split the facilities up. That being said, it's been 9-10 years since that decision was made. At the same time though, if the facilities are not split up into their own pages, I feel like some of them desperately need collapsible lists. I personally agree that the page is very cluttered, but I still somewhat agree that separate facility pages would just create a bunch of stubs unnecessarily. R.A. Hunter Blade 19:03, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

I disagree. As someone who's seen them, the individual facility articles created from the temporary split were certainly not a bunch of unnecessary stubs. Unfortunately, the articles were deleted during the reversions, so I can't really provide any diffs to prove it. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 01:47, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

I'm not against splitting the pages by any means, especially after looking at the proposed pages TehPerson drafted. I guess I was thinking that there wasn't enough content aside from the many, many charts/lists. 10 years ago there wasn't enough content to justify separating each into their own articles, but seeing it all separated in the drafts makes it feasible now. I'm throwing my vote for separating the sections, but propose maybe the item lists on the Battle Castle and Battle Frontier (Generation IV) pages be collapsible. It's not critical, just a personal preference. R.A. Hunter Blade 02:35, 3 October 2018 (UTC)