Bulbapedia talk:Spading

This page seems like it would be more at home in the Appendix: namespace than the Bulbapedia: one. Any thoughts? --((Marton imos)) 04:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, it could go either way. Appendix seems like it'd work, too, but stuff in the Appendix namespace usually gets ignored. TTEchidna 05:38, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I would also like tags for the top of pages that inform users that there's an open question to be solved for that page. See this wiki for an example. Would this be too intrusive?

I'm glad that this is being accepted so far. --Raijinili 12:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I take back what I said about the appendix. You guys seem to be doing good work. --((Marton imos)) 01:41, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Confusion

Confusion seems to be determined by the attack stats, as seen by the move swagger. Θρtιmαtum♏_Talk|Links 07:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, I know that, but that's not enough to calculate the damage. Struggle, for example, had a power of 50 in at least one of the games (I think). --Raijinili 21:16, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, it's written that it's a 40-power ???-type move. TTEchidna 04:21, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Status ailment. But if that's the case, would that therefore be the move in space 000?! TTEchidna 04:23, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Breeding

I read somewhere that there eggs' counters are only decremented every time 255 steps are taken. Some sort of global step counter. I think it said something like, it goes through the party, and if it is an egg, decrement the counter by one. Using Magma Armor or Flame Body simply decrements the eggs' counters by two instead of one. However, when it goes through the party, if one of the counters reaches zero, the egg hatches, and the counter doesn't visit any of the other eggs. Therefore if more than one egg in the party is just about ready to hatch (counter is 1), when 255 steps are taken, one hatches, but the others' counters are not decremented, so another 255 steps must be taken before the counter goes off again. It also said that picking up an egg from the daycare man resets the global step counter. I'm not sure where I heard all this, but it was probably Smogon again. I haven't thoroughly tested this, but it seems to be how it works in practice. Laoris 05:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Oops, I should have read the Pokémon Breeding page first. This probably should have been there anyway. Guess Raijinili mentioned the Smogon guide already. Laoris 06:06, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Shard

I need solid proof that one cannot transfer the Sun and Moon Shards from XD to R/S/E/FR/LG/E, and then to D/P/Pt. Anyone? ^ht14 16:49, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

The Sun Shard and the Moon Shard are key items, in the Key Items pocket. Key items can't be held or transferred to other games regardless of generation or platform. I don't know why anyone would even suggest the Sun Shard and Moon Shard are transferrable, since one would know they're clearly not once they know they're key items...--Shiningpikablu252 16:52, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Yep, Key items. Cannot be held either. Also, it is very hard to not use those items up as every Eevee I've turned Espeon or Umbreon has evolved first chance. Gywall^(Talk) 17:07, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I've always wondered if those were transferable... but I guess not. ~Toastypk - ^Loom. 15:33, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

No, they are not key items, but they are like the colognes. They are items like others, but lack of the option to be held. hfc2X 18:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Uh, last I checked, both the Sun Shard and the Moon Shard were indeed key items. They go directly into the Key Items pocket, and that's the quality that defines them as key items. They're not like the colognes, which go in a separate case. Trust me, if the Sun Shard and Moon Shard were not key items, then they wouldn't be listed on the list of key items in Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness, which lists all of the key items in that game.

Additionally, even if the Sun Shard and Moon Shard weren't key items, they could have still been made nontransferrable. The Time Flute from Colosseum and Poké Snack from XD were in the Items pocket and could not be held. --Shiningpikablu252 19:55, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Platinum forms

When going to Wi-fi, Giratina's Platinum Orb is taken off and Shaymin reverts to Land Forme. It's part of the games coding based from what I read some time ago. _*tc26_* 01:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)