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::::::::::The only way to put any sort of note onto the move or most of the other cells is to add a new "if" to the template (which isn't great, for just one use) or just write out code instead of using the template for that row. These are both possible, but kind of troublesome. Personally though, I kind of don't think anyone "glancing" through will just assume they're both in there; it seems more obvious to me that there should be something weird about those entries. | ::::::::::The only way to put any sort of note onto the move or most of the other cells is to add a new "if" to the template (which isn't great, for just one use) or just write out code instead of using the template for that row. These are both possible, but kind of troublesome. Personally though, I kind of don't think anyone "glancing" through will just assume they're both in there; it seems more obvious to me that there should be something weird about those entries. | ||
::::::::::There is already a note in an asterisk in the location columns. Did you miss that, or do you mean to say that you think it should be more explicit? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:43, 3 August 2015 (UTC) | ::::::::::There is already a note in an asterisk in the location columns. Did you miss that, or do you mean to say that you think it should be more explicit? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:43, 3 August 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::::I think it just looks a bit odd seeing as it's the only Pokémon to have two visible entries. I played around with editing the page and I see what you mean about the code likely not permitting even a comment next to move names. I tried utilising the "pure" code to add in an entry for Hydro Pump under Surf, if only to see how it would look, but it does appear that beyond that either adding a comment cannot be done without changing the code, or I simply lack the capability to do so. I don't want to stress anyone with extra work, but I'm wondering if we can find a cleaner way to add in the necessary information without two visual entries for Suicune since most of the duplicate information is redundant. Ideally, I'd envision it being as simple as: [[Hydro Pump]]{{tt|*|Replaces Surf if encountered in Deep Colosseum}} [[User:EuroMIX|EuroMIX]] ([[User talk:EuroMIX|talk]]) 13:15, 3 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
{{indent}}Is this to your liking? | |||
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{{lop/shadow|245|Suicune|40|13,000|Shadow Rush|XD|Leer|Normal|Gust|Flying|Surf|Water|Colo|Cipher Admin|Venus|[[The Under Subway]]/[[Realgam Tower]]{{tt|*|If Suicune is caught at either of these locations, it will have Surf}}<br>[[Deep Colosseum]]{{tt|*|If Suicune is caught at this location, it will have Hydro Pump}}|pure1=Rain Dance|pure1t=Water|pure4=Hydro Pump|pure4t=Water|link=Venus}} | |||
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If this is clear enough, it can replace the two rows. I don't think anyone will think that Surf can be purified into Hydro Pump or that its fourth move is "Surf Hydro Pump". --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 13:33, 3 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:I prefer that to the current solution. I do see the concerns over confusing the move, but visually I'd imagine the clue would be the word Hydro being on a different line when space would permit "Surf Hydro" to be listed together if it were all one move. I think that the trade-offs may be worth it, especially since it removes redundant information and keeps the page to one entry per Pokémon, per game. [[User:EuroMIX|EuroMIX]] ([[User talk:EuroMIX|talk]]) 13:54, 3 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
==Items== | |||
Several Shadow Pokemon in both Colosseum and XD are guaranteed to hold items, usually type-boosting items like the Miracle Seed and Magnet. Often the only means of acquiring these items is by catching these specific Pokemon, so I think including a held item column to the page would be very helpful. I'm not very good at wiki editing so I don't feel confident in making this change myself. But I compiled a list of items held by Shadow Pokemon here for anyone else to use should they want to add this information: https://pastebin.com/7yMTHkUP Hopefully this is enough. Thank you! [[User:PuffyPuffyPuffPuff|PuffyPuffyPuffPuff]] ([[User talk:PuffyPuffyPuffPuff|talk]]) 03:24, 15 August 2020 (UTC) | |||