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In prior revisions of [[Metapod (Pokémon)]], it listed next to "Evolve Caterpie" that it was for "White/White 2 only". I attempted to [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Metapod_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&oldid=1740830 correct] this by removing the reference to White/White 2, since a [[Caterpie (Pokémon)]] traded into Black can evolve perfectly fine in Black; I'll be happy to trade one into the game and level it up, then take a video to prove that everything is indeed perfectly fine if anyone wishes to suggest this is not possible, but I would presume this is common sense without a video. | In prior revisions of [[Metapod (Pokémon)]], it listed next to "Evolve Caterpie" that it was for "White/White 2 only". I attempted to [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Metapod_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&oldid=1740830 correct] this by removing the reference to White/White 2, since a [[Caterpie (Pokémon)]] traded into Black can evolve perfectly fine in Black; I'll be happy to trade one into the game and level it up, then take a video to prove that everything is indeed perfectly fine if anyone wishes to suggest this is not possible, but I would presume this is common sense without a video. | ||
Within the hour, [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Metapod_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&oldid=1740857 reverted] my correction giving the reason that Caterpie can only be caught in White. Trust me: I know that. I have since [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Metapod_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&oldid=1741242 restored] my correction <small>(it was [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Metapod_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&oldid=1741267 reverted] again, and I have made no additional attempts to restore the correct information at this time [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]] | Within the hour, [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Metapod_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&oldid=1740857 reverted] my correction giving the reason that Caterpie can only be caught in White. Trust me: I know that. I have since [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Metapod_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&oldid=1741242 restored] my correction <small>(it was [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Metapod_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&oldid=1741267 reverted] again, and I have made no additional attempts to restore the correct information at this time [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]] 01:09, 9 August 2012 (UTC)))</small>. There is no need to disambiguate a version next to a note saying that you have to evolve a Pokémon. A Pokémon can evolve in any game, and even if it's common sense, we should not lead down the road suggesting that, to evolve a Caterpie into Metapod, you have to be playing White. | ||
If a Pokémon cannot be caught in any game and must be evolved or breeded, that's fine. That ought to be mentioned. However, it should never be suggested that in order to evolve or breed, you must be playing one game and not the other. Sticking "White/White 2 only" in there suggests that. This error is existing in numerous Pokémon articles (not just in Black/White entries) and should be corrected; I thought I'd start with the earliest instance and try to establish a precedent rather than appear to wreak havoc throughout all of the articles. It quickly seems I will have a challenge doing this. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 00:56, 9 August 2012 (UTC) | If a Pokémon cannot be caught in any game and must be evolved or breeded, that's fine. That ought to be mentioned. However, it should never be suggested that in order to evolve or breed, you must be playing one game and not the other. Sticking "White/White 2 only" in there suggests that. This error is existing in numerous Pokémon articles (not just in Black/White entries) and should be corrected; I thought I'd start with the earliest instance and try to establish a precedent rather than appear to wreak havoc throughout all of the articles. It quickly seems I will have a challenge doing this. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 00:56, 9 August 2012 (UTC) | ||
:You're right, you can trade/transfer just about any Pokémon to a fifth generation game and evolve it into any of its possible evolutions. But by that logic, every evolved Pokémon that's not otherwise available in should just say "evolve <previous species>, but that's not exactly useful information. So that suggests you can transfer a Bayleef from a SoulSilver cartridge to a White2 one, evolve it, and the page should say you can get a Meganium in White2 by evolving Bayleef. But it already says so at the top of the page that you get Meganium by evolving Bayleef. | |||
:So the way these tables work, essentially, is to tell whether or not the Pokémon is a version exclusive, as in where you can find its evolutionary family in the paired version without trading for one. So the table should say Metapod is "only in White/White2," since the Caterpie family is exclusive to those games. [[User:Dimenticare|Dimenticare]] ([[User talk:Dimenticare|talk]]) 01:40, 9 August 2012 (UTC) | |||
::People are not stupid. Version exclusivity isn't about whether a Pokémon can evolve in a certain game, as all Pokémon are able to evolve in all games (with the sole exception of Magneton/Nosepass/Leafeon/Glaceon in HGSS). Version exclusivity is about whether the Pokémon can be obtained ''at all'' without the use of trading. It doesn't matter if you're able to evolve Caterpie in Black 2, you still need to trade with White or White 2 to get a Caterpie, which makes Caterpie, Metapod and Butterfree all version exclusives. Saying that Metapod isn't exclusive to White 2 is exactly the same as saying Black Kyurem isn't exclusive to Black 2. Sure, they both can be obtained within the other game, though you still need to trade with another game to obtain what is needed to get them, making them both version exclusive. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 12:35, 9 August 2012 (UTC) | |||