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The TCG card [[Dark Kadabra (Team Rocket 39)|Dark Kadabra]] seemingly depicts a Kadabra that's breaking its spoon while phasing in or out. When I acquired the card several years ago I assumed the latter - that is, phasing out - and that it did so because it was breaking the spoon. Hence, it seemed to me like it committed suicide. Has anyone else noticed this? Just asking out of curiosity. [[User:FrozenMetal|FrozenMetal]] 18:03, 24 March 2012 (UTC) | The TCG card [[Dark Kadabra (Team Rocket 39)|Dark Kadabra]] seemingly depicts a Kadabra that's breaking its spoon while phasing in or out. When I acquired the card several years ago I assumed the latter - that is, phasing out - and that it did so because it was breaking the spoon. Hence, it seemed to me like it committed suicide. Has anyone else noticed this? Just asking out of curiosity. [[User:FrozenMetal|FrozenMetal]] 18:03, 24 March 2012 (UTC) | ||
::Never mind, silly question. It probably just stumbled. [[User:FrozenMetal|FrozenMetal]] 17:15, 25 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Japanese Name == | |||
I've never edited a wiki before so I thought I would bring this up on the talk page before messing with the article. Is it possible that the Japanese name of Kadabra, ユンゲラー (Yungerer) is in fact a portmanteau of spoonbender Uri Geller's (for the gerer part) surname and the surname of psychiatrist Carl Jung? I propose this because the name Jung is pronounced jʊŋ (Yung with a long u sound) and fits the mystical theme of the line's names. Furthermore, Jung was also seen as somewhat of a mystic due to his interest in the occult. | |||
[[User:Himenikki|Himenikki]] ([[User talk:Himenikki|talk]]) 13:55, 17 November 2013 (UTC) | |||
== The Satanic S (or Z) on it's Chest == | |||
On the chest of Kadabra their is a SSS, or three Satanic S's which mean Satan's Solumn Servant according to the ex-Satanist Stephen Dollins who have met people in other covens who had tattoos like that you see on Kadabra's chest. Do you think we should add this to the page of Kadabra? | |||
[[User:Beloved.BrokenWings|Beloved.BrokenWings]] ([[User talk:Beloved.BrokenWings|talk]]) 20:30, 18 December 2013 (PST) | |||
:No. That's entirely an opinion. I don't see that at all and its far, far more like that they are meant to be the wavy lines seen on {{wp|zener cards}}. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 06:10, 19 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Kadabra Everstone Bug Generation VI == | |||
I just traded a Kadabra holding an Everstone in Generation VI, and it nonetheless evolved. Should I just add that to the article, or should I wait for someone else to confirm it?[[User:Mr. Flix|- Mr. Flix]] ([[User talk:Mr. Flix|talk]]) 13:18, 4 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Evolution caused by Geller? == | |||
I feel like, since the Everstone has not prevented Kadabra from evolving since Generation IV, does anybody else feel like it has to do with the whole Uri Geller problem? Remember, Abra and Alakazam have had regular appearances in the TCG, anime, and Ranger 2, but Kadabra has not. [[User:Bigpboy|Bigpboy]] ([[User talk:Bigpboy|talk]]) 03:31, 9 June 2015 (UTC) | |||
:I've been saying all along this Kadabra Everstone thing has Geller's stink all over it. Why do we even still classify this as a glitch? What kind of a glitch persists through two generations? <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 05:17, 26 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::Because it ''is'' a glitch. The Everstone has a clear intention, and if Kadabra breaks that and we do not ''know'' it is intended, it is a glitch. When you can show some sort of concrete evidence for your theory, we can consider doing something else. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::How on Earth is Kadabra evolving in spite of the Everstone even slightly related to Geller? He complained about Kadabra and filed legal action about the TCG (the result of which I've never been able to find—some places say it was "thrown out", but I've never been convinced), but how could that possibly relate to this oddity '''at all'''? There isn't even an actual theory, let alone any evidence for it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:32, 26 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
::::If it was indeed a glitch, don't you think it'd have been caught at some point in the transition from Generation IV to V, or V to VI? No other glitch has persisted from one generation to the next, let alone through two whole generations. You can't tell me that's not suspicious. And two, it's Kadabra. Kadabra's been catching all this crap ever since Uri Geller. No Kadabra cards, no Kadabra in the anime or the Ranger games, Everstone doesn't work on Kadabra... I mean, if this affected Graveler or something instead of Kadabra, then I'd agree with it being some bizarre glitch that they somehow never caught, but no- it's just Kadabra. You know what? One of us should email Nintendo about it, see what they have to say about it, and see if us alerting them to it gets it "fixed" in the next game(s). If we don't know for sure whether it was intended (glaringly obvious though it is), then we should try and find out. <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 16:31, 26 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::::How long did we have '''Faint''' Attack? You're welcome to be suspicious, but until you can show something like concrete evidence, we can only call it a glitch. I.e., we will not ''speculate'' about why the error has not been fixed. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:59, 26 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Test evolution in gen 3 == | |||
Would someone mind testing if Kadabra evolves despite holding an Everstone in generation 3? I'm very sure I remember it doing so a few years ago, but I lost my link cable and can't test it myself. [[User:Swiftgallade46|Swiftgallade46]] ([[User talk:Swiftgallade46|talk]]) 21:07, 31 October 2015 (UTC) | |||
==Weird Issue in Sun and Moon== | |||
I noticed twice that in Sun and Moon, when it evolves into Abra at Level 16, it learns Kinesis, but it does not learn Confusion even though it is supposed to at that particular level. Anyone else encounter this problem? -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 18:36, 26 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
:It's been made fairly widely known across sites like Reddit, although I'm not sure why it happens. I'm not sure it would be prudent for us to note until we can determine why it happens — whether it's due to a glitch or something else. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:42, 26 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Probably a glitch, but when the time is right, it should be noted as a trivia piece. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 19:22, 26 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::It wouldn't be appropriate for trivia. If/when we find out why it happens, the proper place would probably be a note at the bottom of its learnset section. It's bad to just randomly dump things into trivia when they could fit fine in the main body of the page. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:34, 26 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
{{indent}} I believe it is a glitch. I tested, and found that when I evolved.. | |||
*Tentacool into {{p|Tentacruel}} at level 32, it learned Poison Jab; | |||
*Magikarp into {{p|Gyarados}} at level 21, it learned Bite and Leer; | |||
*Metapod into {{p|Butterfree}} at level 11, it learned Gust but not Confusion. | |||
So I guess that upon evolution, Pokémon with evolution moves will not also learn other moves they also learn at level 1. (Note that I didn't completely rule out that all Pokémon will not learn any non-evolution move they also learn at level 1—there do not seem to be many examples, but I found Hypno level 53—, nor that they don't learn Confusion specifically upon evolution.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:54, 29 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Makes no sense == | |||
"Yungerer is a corruption of Uri Geller (with リ ri replaced by the visually similar ン n), who claims to have the ability to bend spoons with his mind, as the Japanese names of the Abra line are based on famous mystics. As a result, Geller sued Nintendo of America for using his likeness in a character." | |||
This makes no sense. It's the JAPANESE name, so why would they sue the AMERICAN Nintendo? | |||
Just wanted to point that out. | |||
--<span style="color:#0411EC">[[User:Mira Zannah|Mira]]</span> <span style="color:#09C202">[[User_talk:Mira Zannah|Zannah]]</span> 20:53, 30 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
:I cannot find any sources (I checked Google as well as all those cited on Wikipedia) that specify which part of Nintendo was sued; they all simply say he sued "Nintendo" with specification. I don't think we should be claiming it's specifically the American division without a source, so I'll revise it to simply "Nintendo". [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:18, 30 January 2018 (UTC) | |||
:|The only account I can recall Israeli entertainer Uri Geller suing Nintendo is a [https://web.archive.org/web/20010426221708/http://www.tcom.co.uk:80/hpnet/pokemon_usatoday.htm USA Today article] saying that Geller plans to sue either in America or Japan or both. [https://web.archive.org/web/20010426182423/http://www.tcom.co.uk:80/hpnet/enquirer.htm Other articles] mention that Geller does have a Japanese agent as well as an audience in Japan, so it is unlikely he wouldn't sue Nintendo of Japan. In fact, according to [http://www.pokebeach.com/2008/07/second-pokemon-interview-with-masamitsu-hidaka-many-interesting-points the second interview with Masamitsu Hidaka], the Geller lawsuit did reached in Japan but the only information regarding the status of the lawsuit is that "the case had not been settled and was still going on, and that they were not allowed to use Kadabra on a card until an agreement was reached." This was back in 2008 and the lawsuit wasn't resolved anytime soon at the time. [[User:Shadao|Shadao]] ([[User talk:Shadao|talk]]) 00:56, 28 April 2018 (UTC) | |||