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Wasn't that case thrown out because he sued Nintendo of AMERICA, who had nothing to do with it? - unsigned comment from Blackjack Gabbiani (talkcontribs)

I think he lost the case (throw out isn't the same as lose, but I'm not sure what happened here) - but yes, he sued in America. - 振霖T 08:04, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I've heard that there is some controversy over Kadabra having a star on his forehead and a lightning bolts symbol on his abdomen, both of which are used by the Nazi SS. I was also sitting in class today when I realized something. Isn't odd that both Kadabra and Alakazam have five points on their head, ie. the form of an inverted pentagram? -Ragnarok7038

Alakazam has no pentagram on its head. Kadabra has a star. If a star is suddenly an "occult inverted pentagram", well then the US flag is covered in them. Oh-em-gees, occult in my Christian nation? As for "lightning bolts", um, the Nazis had two of those S things for their secret police. If you look at every wavy line as if it's "OMG NAZI GASP" then you're just crazy. TTEchidna 05:15, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I didn't say that I interpreted it as Nazi symbols, I was referring to a controversy that has arisen elsewhere. And the star on Kadabra's forehead isn't the inverted pentagram, his head is. Look at the shape. -Ragnarok7038 that is a stretch. I mean, if Kadabra's head is an inverted pentagram, then so are the heads of all foxes. And controversy always arises from super-fearful parents. The easiest way to kill something is to compare it to Hitler. TTEchidna 01:20, 19 November 2007 (UTC)


If Kinesis is Kadabra's signature move, it should be added to its moveset. But I'm not sure on which level. - unsigned comment from Pokeresp (talkcontribs)


Is Kadabra being the only unsearchable Pokemon on noteworthy trivia? --Pizzaman 03:43, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm sure it's just an error. I've written to's mailbag about that, but they haven't answered it yet. What purpose would they have for making Kadabra unsearchable? That'd just inconvenience people. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 16:19, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
More than a year, and I just checked right now, and it's not searchable. I seriously think that its notable now. I'm adding it. The Dark Fiddler - You enter a poorly lit room... 02:19, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Probably they don't let you touch Kadabra because of that whiner Geller. TTEchidna 03:07, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


Ever since that case with Uri Geller, there hasn't been a new Kadabra card in the TCG. Shouldn't that be mentioned somewhere on Kadabra's page? --いぬみみ 04:07, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


I've yet to see a source on the entire "Kadabra, like Abra, sleep for around 18 hours a day." line

Can we get ANY citation for this or are we going by hearsay or making things up? Zelinko 02:41, 7 April 2010 (UTC)


"The name might come from the Spanish word for goat."

Seriously? Does anyone see a single 'goat' characteristic about it? - unsigned comment from Mpcamel1729 (talkcontribs)

I can somewhat see it. Both Kadabra and goats have that scruff of fur on its face. :--SuperAipom7 (Need me?) 00:59, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Actully the article says under orgin Kadabra is based on a magician and also a spoon bender. It also shares similarities to goats and foxes, both animals with ties to magic.. The spanish naming using the word for goat probably comes from that explanation. --Pokemaster97 01:02, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Ah. Now I sorta see it. Foxes?Origami is math for the hands. -Martin Grant, MathPath 00:08, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

The lawsuits

"Geller attempted to make a case against Nintendo of America for using his likeness in a character and lost, Nintendo's defense being that they had not named any Pokémon after actual people."

Are we sure that that's the reason? I would think that it would be more likely that he lost because he sued Nintendo of America -- a company who named him "Kadabra" which has nothing to do with Uri Geller. As a matter of fact, if Nintendo's defense was "no Pokémon were named after actual people" then couldn't he have easily proved them wrong, by citing Pokémon who obviously were, such as Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee?

Also "This may be due to Nintendo and Pokémon Card Laboratories' desire not to provoke Uri Geller's litigious nature."

I'm pretty sure that you can't sue someone twice for the same thing, so I really don't see why that would be the reason. Unless they thought that he was going to sue Nintendo of Japan this time around (instead of Nintendo of America)... but if he was going to I think he'd have done it back in the days of Generation I when Kadabra was more important to the series. Dannyjenn 15:00, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Kadabra suicide?

The TCG card Dark Kadabra seemingly depicts a Kadabra that's breaking its spoon while phasing in or out. When I acquired the card several years ago I assumed the latter - that is, phasing out - and that it did so because it was breaking the spoon. Hence, it seemed to me like it committed suicide. Has anyone else noticed this? Just asking out of curiosity. FrozenMetal 18:03, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Never mind, silly question. It probably just stumbled. FrozenMetal 17:15, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Japanese Name

I've never edited a wiki before so I thought I would bring this up on the talk page before messing with the article. Is it possible that the Japanese name of Kadabra, ユンゲラー (Yungerer) is in fact a portmanteau of spoonbender Uri Geller's (for the gerer part) surname and the surname of psychiatrist Carl Jung? I propose this because the name Jung is pronounced jʊŋ (Yung with a long u sound) and fits the mystical theme of the line's names. Furthermore, Jung was also seen as somewhat of a mystic due to his interest in the occult.

Himenikki (talk) 13:55, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

The Satanic S (or Z) on it's Chest

On the chest of Kadabra their is a SSS, or three Satanic S's which mean Satan's Solumn Servant according to the ex-Satanist Stephen Dollins who have met people in other covens who had tattoos like that you see on Kadabra's chest. Do you think we should add this to the page of Kadabra?

Beloved.BrokenWings (talk) 20:30, 18 December 2013 (PST)

No. That's entirely an opinion. I don't see that at all and its far, far more like that they are meant to be the wavy lines seen on zener cards. Crystal Talian 06:10, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Kadabra Everstone Bug Generation VI

I just traded a Kadabra holding an Everstone in Generation VI, and it nonetheless evolved. Should I just add that to the article, or should I wait for someone else to confirm it?- Mr. Flix (talk) 13:18, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Evolution caused by Geller?

I feel like, since the Everstone has not prevented Kadabra from evolving since Generation IV, does anybody else feel like it has to do with the whole Uri Geller problem? Remember, Abra and Alakazam have had regular appearances in the TCG, anime, and Ranger 2, but Kadabra has not. Bigpboy (talk) 03:31, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

I've been saying all along this Kadabra Everstone thing has Geller's stink all over it. Why do we even still classify this as a glitch? What kind of a glitch persists through two generations? - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 05:17, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Because it is a glitch. The Everstone has a clear intention, and if Kadabra breaks that and we do not know it is intended, it is a glitch. When you can show some sort of concrete evidence for your theory, we can consider doing something else. Tiddlywinks (talk) 05:48, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
How on Earth is Kadabra evolving in spite of the Everstone even slightly related to Geller? He complained about Kadabra and filed legal action about the TCG (the result of which I've never been able to find—some places say it was "thrown out", but I've never been convinced), but how could that possibly relate to this oddity at all? There isn't even an actual theory, let alone any evidence for it. --SnorlaxMonster 07:32, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
If it was indeed a glitch, don't you think it'd have been caught at some point in the transition from Generation IV to V, or V to VI? No other glitch has persisted from one generation to the next, let alone through two whole generations. You can't tell me that's not suspicious. And two, it's Kadabra. Kadabra's been catching all this crap ever since Uri Geller. No Kadabra cards, no Kadabra in the anime or the Ranger games, Everstone doesn't work on Kadabra... I mean, if this affected Graveler or something instead of Kadabra, then I'd agree with it being some bizarre glitch that they somehow never caught, but no- it's just Kadabra. You know what? One of us should email Nintendo about it, see what they have to say about it, and see if us alerting them to it gets it "fixed" in the next game(s). If we don't know for sure whether it was intended (glaringly obvious though it is), then we should try and find out. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 16:31, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
How long did we have Faint Attack? You're welcome to be suspicious, but until you can show something like concrete evidence, we can only call it a glitch. I.e., we will not speculate about why the error has not been fixed. Tiddlywinks (talk) 16:59, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Test evolution in gen 3

Would someone mind testing if Kadabra evolves despite holding an Everstone in generation 3? I'm very sure I remember it doing so a few years ago, but I lost my link cable and can't test it myself. Swiftgallade46 (talk) 21:07, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Weird Issue in Sun and Moon

I noticed twice that in Sun and Moon, when it evolves into Abra at Level 16, it learns Kinesis, but it does not learn Confusion even though it is supposed to at that particular level. Anyone else encounter this problem? -Tyler53841 (talk) 18:36, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

It's been made fairly widely known across sites like Reddit, although I'm not sure why it happens. I'm not sure it would be prudent for us to note until we can determine why it happens — whether it's due to a glitch or something else. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 18:42, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Probably a glitch, but when the time is right, it should be noted as a trivia piece. -Tyler53841 (talk) 19:22, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
It wouldn't be appropriate for trivia. If/when we find out why it happens, the proper place would probably be a note at the bottom of its learnset section. It's bad to just randomly dump things into trivia when they could fit fine in the main body of the page. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 19:34, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

(resetting indent) I believe it is a glitch. I tested, and found that when I evolved..

  • Tentacool into Tentacruel at level 32, it learned Poison Jab;
  • Magikarp into Gyarados at level 21, it learned Bite and Leer;
  • Metapod into Butterfree at level 11, it learned Gust but not Confusion.

So I guess that upon evolution, Pokémon with evolution moves will not also learn other moves they also learn at level 1. (Note that I didn't completely rule out that all Pokémon will not learn any non-evolution move they also learn at level 1—there do not seem to be many examples, but I found Hypno level 53—, nor that they don't learn Confusion specifically upon evolution.) Nescientist (talk) 09:54, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Makes no sense

"Yungerer is a corruption of Uri Geller (with リ ri replaced by the visually similar ン n), who claims to have the ability to bend spoons with his mind, as the Japanese names of the Abra line are based on famous mystics. As a result, Geller sued Nintendo of America for using his likeness in a character."

This makes no sense. It's the JAPANESE name, so why would they sue the AMERICAN Nintendo?

Just wanted to point that out.

--Mira Zannah 20:53, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

I cannot find any sources (I checked Google as well as all those cited on Wikipedia) that specify which part of Nintendo was sued; they all simply say he sued "Nintendo" with specification. I don't think we should be claiming it's specifically the American division without a source, so I'll revise it to simply "Nintendo". Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 22:18, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
|The only account I can recall Israeli entertainer Uri Geller suing Nintendo is a USA Today article saying that Geller plans to sue either in America or Japan or both. Other articles mention that Geller does have a Japanese agent as well as an audience in Japan, so it is unlikely he wouldn't sue Nintendo of Japan. In fact, according to the second interview with Masamitsu Hidaka, the Geller lawsuit did reached in Japan but the only information regarding the status of the lawsuit is that "the case had not been settled and was still going on, and that they were not allowed to use Kadabra on a card until an agreement was reached." This was back in 2008 and the lawsuit wasn't resolved anytime soon at the time. Shadao (talk) 00:56, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
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