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== Updating the HeldItems template to support Legends Arceus ==
== Updating the HeldItems template to support Legends Arceus ==
Any chance that the HeldItems template could be updated to support Legends Arceus? I am willing to at least make a dent in adding the info to the pages that need adding, but I cannot do that if the template doesn't support it. From the look of things, it seems like it'd be a pretty easy thing to do with a copy/paste and changing text where needed. I'm not a template expert though. -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 00:13, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
Any chance that the HeldItems template could be updated to support Legends Arceus? I am willing to at least make a dent in adding the info to the pages that need adding, but I cannot do that if the template doesn't support it. From the look of things, it seems like it'd be a pretty easy thing to do with a copy/paste and changing text where needed. I'm not a template expert though. -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 00:13, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
: Thank you for drawing attention to this. I've added Legends: Arceus and (for when the time comes) Scarlet & Violet to the {{template|HeldItems}} template. I hope this helps! - [[User:BthrussellUK|bthrussellUK]] ([[User Talk:BthrussellUK|talk]]) 21:36, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
: Thank you for drawing attention to this. I've added Legends: Arceus and (for when the time comes) Scarlet & Violet to the {{template|HeldItems}} template. I hope this helps! - [[User:Rustle|bthrussellUK]] ([[User Talk:Rustle|talk]]) 21:36, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
:: Thank you, it does! I'm wondering how we want to handle the more robust dropped item system in this game. Almost every pokemon has multiple items it can drop, and both can drop at the same time. In addition, each pokemon has different drops if its an alpha, it can drop grit if it's defeated in battle, and it can drop aguav berries if caught/defeated from a berry outbreak in a massive mass outbreak. I don't know if the current template is built to handle this complexity. Could we possibly add a new template with sections for regular drops and alpha drops. Should we bother listing the grit/aguav berry drops, considering they're independent from the species itself? -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 09:12, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
:: Thank you, it does! I'm wondering how we want to handle the more robust dropped item system in this game. Almost every pokemon has multiple items it can drop, and both can drop at the same time. In addition, each pokemon has different drops if its an alpha, it can drop grit if it's defeated in battle, and it can drop aguav berries if caught/defeated from a berry outbreak in a massive mass outbreak. I don't know if the current template is built to handle this complexity. Could we possibly add a new template with sections for regular drops and alpha drops. Should we bother listing the grit/aguav berry drops, considering they're independent from the species itself? -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 09:12, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
::: Isn't that what is, at least partially, handled by [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_food_preferences this page]?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 10:11, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
::: Isn't that what is, at least partially, handled by [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_food_preferences this page]?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 10:11, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
:::: That doesn't show odds or alpha drops. -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 18:03, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
:::: That doesn't show odds or alpha drops. -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 18:03, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
::::: We're going to look into this further. The template is frankly a mess right now, so may require a rebuild, so we're going to look into how to intergrate the dropped items from Legends: Arceus, or whether they'd be better off with their own solution. - [[User:BthrussellUK|bthrussellUK]] ([[User Talk:BthrussellUK|talk]]) 20:30, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
::::: We're going to look into this further. The template is frankly a mess right now, so may require a rebuild, so we're going to look into how to intergrate the dropped items from Legends: Arceus, or whether they'd be better off with their own solution. - [[User:Rustle|bthrussellUK]] ([[User Talk:Rustle|talk]]) 20:30, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::Thank you! Once the time comes, lemme know! I have all the drop rate info (not sourced from any other fan site), so I can do the grunt work of actually getting stuff onto pages once it comes. Just for my input, I also wonder if the technical difference between "held" and "dropped" items may warrant Arceus info having its own solution? -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 06:39, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
::::::Thank you! Once the time comes, lemme know! I have all the drop rate info (not sourced from any other fan site), so I can do the grunt work of actually getting stuff onto pages once it comes. Just for my input, I also wonder if the technical difference between "held" and "dropped" items may warrant Arceus info having its own solution? -[[User:PancakeIdentity|PancakeIdentity]] ([[User talk:PancakeIdentity|talk]]) 06:39, 3 October 2022 (UTC)


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Bulbapedia is the only NIWA wiki that does not use italics for game titles, right? The italics game titles are used by Mario wiki, Kirby wiki, Metroid wiki, Smash wiki, etc. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 03:48, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
Bulbapedia is the only NIWA wiki that does not use italics for game titles, right? The italics game titles are used by Mario wiki, Kirby wiki, Metroid wiki, Smash wiki, etc. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 03:48, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


: I would agree that we should have included this in the manual of style when setting up the wiki, as it is a convention that makes sense and is followed on other wikis. Unfortunately, nearly 24 years have passed since the wiki was opened, and we currently have {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} articles, a large portion of which are going to include at least one game title somewhere in the text. Changing it now would be a massive undertaking, and even using bots wouldn't be a great idea, as there are going to be exceptions that we would want to make (e.g. within templates) that are too nuanced for bots to handle. If you can figure out a way for us to easily update every instance of a game title on the wiki, then we can look into this further, but at the moment it will have to stay in the "maybe someday" pile. - [[User:BthrussellUK|bthrussellUK]] ([[User talk:BthrussellUK|talk]]) 22:51, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
: I would agree that we should have included this in the manual of style when setting up the wiki, as it is a convention that makes sense and is followed on other wikis. Unfortunately, nearly 24 years have passed since the wiki was opened, and we currently have {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} articles, a large portion of which are going to include at least one game title somewhere in the text. Changing it now would be a massive undertaking, and even using bots wouldn't be a great idea, as there are going to be exceptions that we would want to make (e.g. within templates) that are too nuanced for bots to handle. If you can figure out a way for us to easily update every instance of a game title on the wiki, then we can look into this further, but at the moment it will have to stay in the "maybe someday" pile. - [[User:Rustle|bthrussellUK]] ([[User talk:Rustle|talk]]) 22:51, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


::I see. Well, maybe we could start by making sure all pages like ''[[Pokémon Emerald Version]]'' had their titles in italics using "DISPLAYTITLE".
::I see. Well, maybe we could start by making sure all pages like ''[[Pokémon Emerald Version]]'' had their titles in italics using "DISPLAYTITLE".