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::Ok. Thanks.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 15:21, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
::Ok. Thanks.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 15:21, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
== Dragonite's Outrage and move positions ==
Just so you're aware, the order of moves does make a functional difference. For example, the order the moves are listed in dictates what moves are known by (regular) wild Pokémon. In games with disassemblies at least, IIRC the algorithm to determine that just goes through that list one by one, breaking at the first move that is too high a level; so it implicitly assumes it is listed in level order. Besides that, the order also makes a difference for things like the move reminder.
I cannot currently verify it 100%, but since Dragonite's Outrage [https://pastebin.com/7qV31Hqa is listed later in that list than to be expected] (it's safe to assume someone at Game Freak just mistyped the level using the numpad), I would expect SwSh/BDSP Dragonite to abide by it such that, for example, the moves shown by the move reminder would not have Outrage in between Dragon Rush and Safeguard, so not as the page suggests after you moved Outrage around. (I've asked in the Discord if someone is able to check it.) Because of this, I would propose your edit to be reverted.
Regarding these kind of hidden notices, I'd urge you to be careful when basically ignoring them. (To be frank, I'd personally say "I don't understand it" is alarming enough of a signal for you to not ignore it, maybe ask around instead.) Moreover, I acknowledge that this hidden notice in particular did not do a good job at doing what it was obviously intending to do, i.e. explaining ''why'' it should not be changed, and encouraging discussion before changing it. (Also in general, I want to point out that hidden notices should be used really ''sparsely''; this being one of the few cases where I think it's reasonable to have.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:21, 18 November 2023 (UTC)