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::You can't dismiss whole original lore book because some facts don't add up. Maybe Laventon's research didn't get to Oak? Maybe Oak was doing research exclusively about Pokemon in Kanto? Since Masuda said there's no consistent timeline you can't trust retcons and claim everything before is not true anymore. It's all true within their own media. PLA specifically reminded about Pokemon being able to shrink, a fact coming from the very book you are trying to delete. The date on Member Card is specifically a reference to real life date of its distribution (also it's written specifically to be hardly readable), but there's a problem, it's specific to a day. Do you really think all event of DPPt are supposed to happen in one day? Don't you think that event that's not available to all players, not related to the main story, that can be done at any point of the game, could happen independently from the events of DPPt, years later?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 09:44, 8 December 2022 (UTC) | ::You can't dismiss whole original lore book because some facts don't add up. Maybe Laventon's research didn't get to Oak? Maybe Oak was doing research exclusively about Pokemon in Kanto? Since Masuda said there's no consistent timeline you can't trust retcons and claim everything before is not true anymore. It's all true within their own media. PLA specifically reminded about Pokemon being able to shrink, a fact coming from the very book you are trying to delete. The date on Member Card is specifically a reference to real life date of its distribution (also it's written specifically to be hardly readable), but there's a problem, it's specific to a day. Do you really think all event of DPPt are supposed to happen in one day? Don't you think that event that's not available to all players, not related to the main story, that can be done at any point of the game, could happen independently from the events of DPPt, years later?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 09:44, 8 December 2022 (UTC) | ||
:::"Since Masuda said there's no consistent timeline" than everything the Timeline section says is meaningless. Masuda's words from 3 years ago to an extent would've deconfirmed that deleted tweet from Toshinobu Matsumiya from 8 years ago. There's really no reason to have the timeline section in the first place, if it's mostly speculation and proves Masuda's point in "people overthinking the timeline". [[User:Inkster|Inkster]] ([[User talk:Inkster|talk]]) 12:46, 8 December 2022 (UTC) | :::"Since Masuda said there's no consistent timeline" than everything the Timeline section says is meaningless. Masuda's words from 3 years ago to an extent would've deconfirmed that deleted tweet from Toshinobu Matsumiya from 8 years ago. There's really no reason to have the timeline section in the first place, if it's mostly speculation and proves Masuda's point in "people overthinking the timeline". [[User:Inkster|Inkster]] ([[User talk:Inkster|talk]]) 12:46, 8 December 2022 (UTC) | ||
::::Because this page is supposed to collect all canon facts and trivia that imply the timeline to show how it looks like if it exists, to see if the creators are trying to make it somewhat consistent even without officially confirming it. I don't think anyone should use it to make conclusions from it as facts, this is for readers to understand general concept of how it's all related and they are free to speculate.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span>]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]]''' 13:17, 8 December 2022 (UTC) | |||