Talk:List of Pokémon by base stats (Generation I): Difference between revisions

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::::That's not very professional reaction. I meant that higher total number incorrectly represents which Pokemon really has higher stats. It treats physical and special stats differently, where in practise they work the same way and there still are 6 stats pretending to be 5.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 13:10, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
::::That's not very professional reaction. I meant that higher total number incorrectly represents which Pokemon really has higher stats. It treats physical and special stats differently, where in practise they work the same way and there still are 6 stats pretending to be 5.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 13:10, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
:::::A Pokemon has 5 stats. Pretty simple. No need to complicate it. I understand how you believe your preference would be "better" in some ways, but it would also easily confuse people. It's not worth it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:00, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
:::::A Pokemon has 5 stats. Pretty simple. No need to complicate it. I understand how you believe your preference would be "better" in some ways, but it would also easily confuse people. It's not worth it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:00, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
::::::I am not saying the other version is better, I am saying that both have thier advantages and would like to see both. Also I don't really understand how using the same method as the one used for all other generations would be confusing but ok. I'll just show you how it could look like:
{| class="sortable roundy" style="margin:auto; background:#CCF; border:3px solid #BEBED1"
|-
! {{color2|000|National Pokédex|#}}
! class="unsortable" |
! Pokémon
! style="background-color:#{{hp color}}; {{roundytop}}" | <small>HP</small>
! style="background-color:#{{attack color}}; {{roundytop}}" | <small>Attack</small>
! style="background-color:#{{defense color}};{{roundytop}}" | <small>Defense</small>
! style="background-color:#{{special attack color}}; {{roundytop}}" | <small>Sp. Attack</small>
! style="background-color:#{{special defense color}}; {{roundytop}}" | <small>Sp. Defense</small>
! style="background-color:#{{speed color}}; {{roundytop}}" | <small>Speed</small>
! <small>Total</small>
! <small>Average</small>
{{lop/base|001|Bulbasaur|45|49|49|65|65|45}}
{{lop/base|002|Ivysaur|60|62|63|80|80|60}}
{{lop/base|003|Venusaur|80|82|83|100|100|80}}
{{lop/base|004|Charmander|39|52|43|50|50|65}}
{{lop/base|005|Charmeleon|58|64|58|65|65|80}}
{{lop/base|006|Charizard|78|84|78|85|85|100}}
{{lop/base|007|Squirtle|44|48|65|50|50|43}}
{{lop/base|008|Wartortle|59|63|80|65|65|58}}
{{lop/base|009|Blastoise|79|83|100|85|85|78}}
{{lop/base|010|Caterpie|45|30|35|20|20|45}}
{{lop/base|011|Metapod|50|20|55|25|25|30}}
{{lop/base|012|Butterfree|60|45|50|80|80|70}}
{{lop/base|013|Weedle|40|35|30|20|20|50}}
{{lop/base|014|Kakuna|45|25|50|25|25|35}}
{{lop/base|015|Beedrill|65|80|40|45|45|75}}
{{lop/base|016|Pidgey|40|45|40|35|35|56}}
{{lop/base|017|Pidgeotto|63|60|55|50|50|71}}
{{lop/base|018|Pidgeot|83|80|75|70|70|91}}
{{lop/base|019|Rattata|30|56|35|25|25|72}}
{{lop/base|020|Raticate|55|81|60|50|50|97}}
{{lop/base|021|Spearow|40|60|30|31|31|70}}
{{lop/base|022|Fearow|65|90|65|61|61|100}}
{{lop/base|023|Ekans|35|60|44|40|40|55}}
{{lop/base|024|Arbok|60|85|69|65|65|80}}
{{lop/base|025|Pikachu|35|55|30|50|50|90}}
{{lop/base|026|Raichu|60|90|55|90|90|100}}
{{lop/base|027|Sandshrew|50|75|85|30|30|40}}
{{lop/base|028|Sandslash|75|100|110|55|55|65}}
{{lop/base|029|Nidoran♀|55|47|52|40|40|41}}
{{lop/base|030|Nidorina|70|62|67|55|55|56}}
{{lop/base|031|Nidoqueen|90|82|87|75|75|76}}
{{lop/base|032|Nidoran♂|46|57|40|40|40|50}}
{{lop/base|033|Nidorino|61|72|57|55|55|65}}
{{lop/base|034|Nidoking|81|92|77|75|75|85}}
{{lop/base|035|Clefairy|70|45|48|60|60|35}}
{{lop/base|036|Clefable|95|70|73|85|85|60}}
{{lop/base|037|Vulpix|38|41|40|65|65|65}}
{{lop/base|038|Ninetales|73|76|75|100|100|100}}
{{lop/base|039|Jigglypuff|115|45|20|25|25|20}}
{{lop/base|040|Wigglytuff|140|70|45|50|50|45}}
{{lop/base|041|Zubat|40|45|35|40|40|55}}
{{lop/base|042|Golbat|75|80|70|75|75|90}}
{{lop/base|043|Oddish|45|50|55|75|75|30}}
{{lop/base|044|Gloom|60|65|70|85|85|40}}
{{lop/base|045|Vileplume|75|80|85|100|100|50}}
{{lop/base|046|Paras|35|70|55|55|55|25}}
{{lop/base|047|Parasect|60|95|80|80|80|30}}
{{lop/base|048|Venonat|60|55|50|40|40|45}}
{{lop/base|049|Venomoth|70|65|60|90|90|90}}
{{lop/base|050|Diglett|10|55|25|45|45|95}}
{{lop/base|051|Dugtrio|35|80|50|70|70|120}}
{{lop/base|052|Meowth|40|45|35|40|40|90}}
{{lop/base|053|Persian|65|70|60|65|65|115}}
{{lop/base|054|Psyduck|50|52|48|50|50|55}}
{{lop/base|055|Golduck|80|82|78|80|80|85}}
{{lop/base|056|Mankey|40|80|35|35|35|70}}
{{lop/base|057|Primeape|65|105|60|60|60|95}}
{{lop/base|058|Growlithe|55|70|45|50|50|60}}
{{lop/base|059|Arcanine|90|110|80|80|80|95}}
{{lop/base|060|Poliwag|40|50|40|40|40|90}}
{{lop/base|061|Poliwhirl|65|65|65|50|50|90}}
{{lop/base|062|Poliwrath|90|85|95|70|70|70}}
{{lop/base|063|Abra|25|20|15|105|105|90}}
{{lop/base|064|Kadabra|40|35|30|120|120|105}}
{{lop/base|065|Alakazam|55|50|45|135|135|120}}
{{lop/base|066|Machop|70|80|50|35|35|35}}
{{lop/base|067|Machoke|80|100|70|50|50|45}}
{{lop/base|068|Machamp|90|130|80|65|65|55}}
{{lop/base|069|Bellsprout|50|75|35|70|70|40}}
{{lop/base|070|Weepinbell|65|90|50|85|85|55}}
{{lop/base|071|Victreebel|80|105|65|100|100|70}}
{{lop/base|072|Tentacool|40|40|35|100|100|70}}
{{lop/base|073|Tentacruel|80|70|65|120|120|100}}
{{lop/base|074|Geodude|40|80|100|30|30|20}}
{{lop/base|075|Graveler|55|95|115|45|45|35}}
{{lop/base|076|Golem|80|110|130|55|55|45}}
{{lop/base|077|Ponyta|50|85|55|65|65|90}}
{{lop/base|078|Rapidash|65|100|70|80|80|105}}
{{lop/base|079|Slowpoke|90|65|65|40|40|15}}
{{lop/base|080|Slowbro|95|75|110|80|80|30}}
{{lop/base|081|Magnemite|25|35|70|95|95|45}}
{{lop/base|082|Magneton|50|60|95|120|120|70}}
{{lop/base|083|Farfetch'd|52|65|55|58|58|60}}
{{lop/base|084|Doduo|35|85|45|35|35|75}}
{{lop/base|085|Dodrio|60|110|70|60|60|100}}
{{lop/base|086|Seel|65|45|55|70|70|45}}
{{lop/base|087|Dewgong|90|70|80|95|95|70}}
{{lop/base|088|Grimer|80|80|50|40|40|25}}
{{lop/base|089|Muk|105|105|75|65|65|50}}
{{lop/base|090|Shellder|30|65|100|45|45|40}}
{{lop/base|091|Cloyster|50|95|180|85|85|70}}
{{lop/base|092|Gastly|30|35|30|100|100|80}}
{{lop/base|093|Haunter|45|50|45|115|115|95}}
{{lop/base|094|Gengar|60|65|60|130|130|110}}
{{lop/base|095|Onix|35|45|160|30|30|70}}
{{lop/base|096|Drowzee|60|48|45|90|90|42}}
{{lop/base|097|Hypno|85|73|70|115|115|67}}
{{lop/base|098|Krabby|30|105|90|25|25|50}}
{{lop/base|099|Kingler|55|130|115|50|50|75}}
{{lop/base|100|Voltorb|40|30|50|55|55|100}}
{{lop/base|101|Electrode|60|50|70|80|80|140}}
{{lop/base|102|Exeggcute|60|40|80|60|60|40}}
{{lop/base|103|Exeggutor|95|95|85|125|125|55}}
{{lop/base|104|Cubone|50|50|95|40|40|35}}
{{lop/base|105|Marowak|60|80|110|50|50|45}}
{{lop/base|106|Hitmonlee|50|120|53|35|35|87}}
{{lop/base|107|Hitmonchan|50|105|79|35|35|76}}
{{lop/base|108|Lickitung|90|55|75|60|60|30}}
{{lop/base|109|Koffing|40|65|95|60|60|35}}
{{lop/base|110|Weezing|65|90|120|85|85|60}}
{{lop/base|111|Rhyhorn|80|85|95|30|30|25}}
{{lop/base|112|Rhydon|105|130|120|45|45|40}}
{{lop/base|113|Chansey|250|5|5|105|105|50}}
{{lop/base|114|Tangela|65|55|115|100|100|60}}
{{lop/base|115|Kangaskhan|105|95|80|40|40|90}}
{{lop/base|116|Horsea|30|40|70|70|70|60}}
{{lop/base|117|Seadra|55|65|95|95|95|85}}
{{lop/base|118|Goldeen|45|67|60|50|50|63}}
{{lop/base|119|Seaking|80|92|65|80|80|68}}
{{lop/base|120|Staryu|30|45|55|70|70|85}}
{{lop/base|121|Starmie|60|75|85|100|100|115}}
{{lop/base|122|Mr. Mime|40|45|65|100|100|90}}
{{lop/base|123|Scyther|70|110|80|55|55|105}}
{{lop/base|124|Jynx|65|50|35|95|95|95}}
{{lop/base|125|Electabuzz|65|83|57|85|85|105}}
{{lop/base|126|Magmar|65|95|57|85|85|93}}
{{lop/base|127|Pinsir|65|125|100|55|55|85}}
{{lop/base|128|Tauros|75|100|95|70|70|110}}
{{lop/base|129|Magikarp|20|10|55|20|20|80}}
{{lop/base|130|Gyarados|95|125|79|100|100|81}}
{{lop/base|131|Lapras|130|85|80|95|95|60}}
{{lop/base|132|Ditto|48|48|48|48|48|48}}
{{lop/base|133|Eevee|55|55|50|65|65|55}}
{{lop/base|134|Vaporeon|130|65|60|110|110|65}}
{{lop/base|135|Jolteon|65|65|60|110|110|130}}
{{lop/base|136|Flareon|65|130|60|110|110|65}}
{{lop/base|137|Porygon|65|60|70|75|75|40}}
{{lop/base|138|Omanyte|35|40|100|90|90|35}}
{{lop/base|139|Omastar|70|60|125|115|115|55}}
{{lop/base|140|Kabuto|30|80|90|45|45|55}}
{{lop/base|141|Kabutops|60|115|105|70|70|80}}
{{lop/base|142|Aerodactyl|80|105|65|60|60|130}}
{{lop/base|143|Snorlax|160|110|65|65|65|30}}
{{lop/base|144|Articuno|90|85|100|125|125|85}}
{{lop/base|145|Zapdos|90|90|85|125|125|100}}
{{lop/base|146|Moltres|90|100|90|125|125|90}}
{{lop/base|147|Dratini|41|64|45|50|50|50}}
{{lop/base|148|Dragonair|61|84|65|70|70|70}}
{{lop/base|149|Dragonite|91|134|95|100|100|80}}
{{lop/base|150|Mewtwo|106|110|90|154|154|130}}
{{lop/base|151|Mew|100|100|100|100|100|100}}
|}
--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 13:32, 10 August 2020 (UTC)