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:I removed them because they weren't a signature move for a full generation. If you want to document "one-off"/"temporary" signature moves, then that can be placed elsewhere, but not in the main template.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 11:49, 5 May 2020 (UTC) | :I removed them because they weren't a signature move for a full generation. If you want to document "one-off"/"temporary" signature moves, then that can be placed elsewhere, but not in the main template.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 11:49, 5 May 2020 (UTC) | ||
::Since Pokemon's movesets are constantly changed within one generation, that means signatures are independent from them.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 18:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC) | ::Since Pokemon's movesets are constantly changed within one generation, that means signatures are independent from them.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 18:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC) | ||
== Inconsistency between main section and teachable signatures == | |||
I've noticed that, for the purposes of the main section, signature moves that are only unique to a certain Pokemon for one game during a gen, are not counted. For example, Water Shuriken Greninja and the other Kalos starters, whose signature moves were distributed to other mons in ORAS. I understand that, although this may seem unintuitive in some ways, for now it seems like people want to keep it this way. | |||
However, this rule does not seem to apply currently to the "teachable" section. For example, many Pokemon are listed from LGPE where those moves are only unique to them in the context of LGPE, but are otherwise learned by many other Pokemon in the other Gen 7 games. The exception to this would be the Meowth/Persian line, where Pay Day is still unique to them, but otherwise all of the rest are not "true" signatures under the criteria applied to the main section. There are also other examples from other gens, such as Quash Murkrow/Honchkrow in Gen 6, when it can be learned by Sableye in ORAS, Snarl Yveltal in the same gen, Double Team Scyther in Gen 1, etc. | |||
I'm basically asking, should this be cleaned up so that it's consistent with the main section? It would also make the purpose of the specific gen flairs more clear, since it would almost always imply that the move is only teachable via tutor or TM in a specific game, instead of possibly implying that the move is only unique to the Pokemon in that game. | |||
--[[User:Tangela13|Tangela13]] ([[User talk:Tangela13|talk]]) 22:02, 26 June 2020 (UTC) | |||