Talk:Ultra Beast: Difference between revisions

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::::::::YOu probably didn't get my argument. GTS clearly classifies them as legendary, what is supported by their many traits that are typical to legendary, and there are few sources (coming not directly from the games) that don't really deny this status, just call them Ultra Beasts which may be due to this uncertainty. It's not like official sources can be wrong [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Official_Guide_to_Legendary_and_Mythical_Pok%C3%A9mon].--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 11:30, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
::::::::YOu probably didn't get my argument. GTS clearly classifies them as legendary, what is supported by their many traits that are typical to legendary, and there are few sources (coming not directly from the games) that don't really deny this status, just call them Ultra Beasts which may be due to this uncertainty. It's not like official sources can be wrong [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Official_Guide_to_Legendary_and_Mythical_Pok%C3%A9mon].--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CC0000">Rocket</span> <span style="color:#666666">Grunt</span>]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">Report To Me</span>]])''' 11:30, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::They are called "Mythical or Legendary" once, and not Legendary several times. We're not going to agonize over one conflict; especially when that one conflict doesn't even give us a ''single'' label that we can actually use, while the others give us consistency. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:04, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::They are called "Mythical or Legendary" once, and not Legendary several times. We're not going to agonize over one conflict; especially when that one conflict doesn't even give us a ''single'' label that we can actually use, while the others give us consistency. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:04, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
{{indent}}To play devil's advocate for a second, we do know for a fact that that they are not Mythical. So if we're given two labels, and we can rule out one, then...
Also worth mentioning is the fact that often "official" sources outside of the games get information wrong all the time, especially on the topic of Legendary classifications.
I've also brought this up elsewhere but it seems like they treat Ultra Beasts on a separate but similar tier as Legendary Pokemon, like Mythicals. They're filtered out of the GTS together, they're grouped in the code of SMUSUM together, and they're often listed together in official sources (sometimes with Mythicals as well), as the links in the trivia section on the article display.--[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#00A1E9">cela</span><span style="color:#BF004F">donk</span>]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 18:13, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
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