User talk:SnorlaxMonster/End-turn resolution order: Difference between revisions

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:::For Lock-On/Mind Reader, I think the status actually wears off as soon as the attack is used, rather than at the end of the turn (which you could test with Instruct and a OHKO move). As you mentioned, this is how it works in Gen II.
:::For Lock-On/Mind Reader, I think the status actually wears off as soon as the attack is used, rather than at the end of the turn (which you could test with Instruct and a OHKO move). As you mentioned, this is how it works in Gen II.
:::Sea of fire/Grassy Terrain: I don't think it is noted, but it probably should be. It's not really the same as an extra turn though, because the passive effect of Grassy Terrain still lasts just as long as the passive effect of Sandstorm, it's only the end-of-turn effect that differs. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:17, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
:::Sea of fire/Grassy Terrain: I don't think it is noted, but it probably should be. It's not really the same as an extra turn though, because the passive effect of Grassy Terrain still lasts just as long as the passive effect of Sandstorm, it's only the end-of-turn effect that differs. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:17, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
::::Even when abstracting from the code, i.e. thinking purely conceptually, I believe Protect/Endure still need to wear off at the end of the turn. (They ''don't'' wear off after an attack.) I think it makes sense to include them, not only because that's apparently the chain of cause and effect internally (i.e., they apparently don't impact Future Sight ''because'' they wear off before, not because the move skips Protection/Endure checks), but also because it makes it clearer that they don't affect Future Sight/Doom Desire. But it's your decision. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 13:57, 16 April 2017 (UTC)