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Just to make sure to get this cleared up, how does the change in the Colored orbs from Generation IV not change which orb controls which Legendary? In RSE, the Blue Orb controlled Groudon and the Red Orb controlled Kyogre. In HGSS, this mechanic changed to the Red Orb controlling Groudon and the Blue Orb controlling Kyogre. The Primal Reversion plot did not change which orb each team needs; Generation IV made that change instead. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:40, 9 March 2016 (UTC) | Just to make sure to get this cleared up, how does the change in the Colored orbs from Generation IV not change which orb controls which Legendary? In RSE, the Blue Orb controlled Groudon and the Red Orb controlled Kyogre. In HGSS, this mechanic changed to the Red Orb controlling Groudon and the Blue Orb controlling Kyogre. The Primal Reversion plot did not change which orb each team needs; Generation IV made that change instead. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 07:40, 9 March 2016 (UTC) | ||
:It is better not to add it because a. This is a comparison between the original games and the remakes and b. HeartGold and SoulSilver are separate games where the Orbs were only added to make them appear in the Embedded Tower and the subject matter is too minor for it to be considered notable to present. Better to ignore the stuff that is too minor to be notable than risk have it removed.-[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 00:59, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | :It is better not to add it because a. This is a comparison between the original games and the remakes and b. HeartGold and SoulSilver are separate games where the Orbs were only added to make them appear in the Embedded Tower and the subject matter is too minor for it to be considered notable to present. Better to ignore the stuff that is too minor to be notable than risk have it removed.-[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 00:59, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | ||
::Since I've been invited... | |||
::In RSE, it's not strictly clear that the Blue/Red Orb really controls Groudon/Kyogre (respectively) or is really and truly meant to. Plainly, the Orb Maxie/Archie chose ''doesn't'' control Groudon/Kyogre. It's kind of arguable whether they just chose the wrong Orb (the thing that might support this is that the Red/Blue Orb does affect Groudon/Kyogre when the player encounters it), or if the Orbs never really had that power per se, or what. | |||
::But you don't really need to answer that question or even entertain it, HGSS still doesn't necessarily change anything. Like I said, in RSE, the Red/Blue Orb ''does'' have an affect on Groudon/Kyogre, and (AFAIK) HGSS never says that the Red/Blue Orb "controls" Groudon/Kyogre: so no contradiction. (For that matter, ''ORAS'' doesn't actually even say (AFAIK) that the Orbs control Groudon/Kyogre; it says they awaken one's full power and quell the other's.) In fact, in RSE the Red/Blue Orb is apparently the one you "need" for that encounter, so I think it actually makes great sense that having the Red/Blue Orb in HGSS gives you Groudon/Kyogre. | |||
::'''In short''', the only solid (notable) difference is that the Team leader chooses the ''opposite'' Orb they did in R/S(/E). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:20, 10 March 2016 (UTC) | |||