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[[User:EspeonA/Sandbox]]
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How's this? There's a link to the test page where it's used on a duplicate of the [[Fire (type)]] article. If you approve, edit {{template|ElementalTypes}} (there are markers that indicate where the code begins and ends) and I'll update the type pages. :) Though you'll have to remove the colon from the category at the bottom (I didn't include the category for the template itself). - <small>'''[[User talk:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C59CBD;">esp</span>]][[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|<span style="color:#AC7BAC;">eon</span>]]</small>[[User:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C52052;">A</span>]]''' 02:04, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
How's this? There's a link to the test page where it's used on a duplicate of the [[Fire (type)]] article. If you approve, edit {{template|Types}} (there are markers that indicate where the code begins and ends) and I'll update the type pages. :) Though you'll have to remove the colon from the category at the bottom (I didn't include the category for the template itself). - <small>'''[[User talk:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C59CBD;">esp</span>]][[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|<span style="color:#AC7BAC;">eon</span>]]</small>[[User:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C52052;">A</span>]]''' 02:04, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
:I like it. I very much like it. Could you copypaste the code over to here with pre tags around it? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:07, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
:I like it. I very much like it. Could you copypaste the code over to here with pre tags around it? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:07, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
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!Code - <small>'''[[User talk:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C59CBD;">esp</span>]][[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|<span style="color:#AC7BAC;">eon</span>]]</small>[[User:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C52052;">A</span>]]''' 02:11, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
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::Wait, oops, must've forgot to put [[:Category:Navigation templates]] on there too. Could you add that in too? =/ I'll go and update the articles and then I'll get to work on the template for egg groups. - <small>'''[[User talk:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C59CBD;">esp</span>]][[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|<span style="color:#AC7BAC;">eon</span>]]</small>[[User:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C52052;">A</span>]]''' 02:26, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
::Wait, oops, must've forgot to put [[:Category:Navigation templates]] on there too. Could you add that in too? =/ I'll go and update the articles and then I'll get to work on the template for egg groups. - <small>'''[[User talk:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C59CBD;">esp</span>]][[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|<span style="color:#AC7BAC;">eon</span>]]</small>[[User:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C52052;">A</span>]]''' 02:26, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
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:::::Look, I don't know if I made this clear enough earlier but I'm sure the template will work perfectly, I just need an admin to go here: [[User:MisterE13/Sandbox]] and copy/paste the codes from the different sections into the already existant pages bearing the same name.  I myself could then even change most of the pages to fix them to how they should be (maybe with a little help :) ).--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 17:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Look, I don't know if I made this clear enough earlier but I'm sure the template will work perfectly, I just need an admin to go here: [[User:MisterE13/Sandbox]] and copy/paste the codes from the different sections into the already existant pages bearing the same name.  I myself could then even change most of the pages to fix them to how they should be (maybe with a little help :) ).--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 17:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Ahhh. Okay there it is. Which code directly? (do it like EspeonA did) Then I can do it easy. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:03, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Ahhh. Okay there it is. Which code directly? (do it like EspeonA did) Then I can do it easy. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:03, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I guess I really need to express myself better.  But as for what you just said, that's the beauty of what I did, all the codes are in my sandbox and the titles of the sections they're in are the pages they should go to.  For example, the code under the "Template:Side game/Rangeryes" title goes here, [[Template:Side game/Rangeryes]] etc.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 00:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I guess I really need to express myself better.  But as for what you just said, that's the beauty of what I did, all the codes are in my sandbox and the titles of the sections they're in are the pages they should go to.  For example, the code under the "Template:Side game/Rangeryes" title goes here, Template:Side game/Rangeryes etc.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 00:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Thaaaat's all I needed. Though it seems somewhat messed up. You sure it's right? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Thaaaat's all I needed. Though it seems somewhat messed up. You sure it's right? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::The example doesn't have the parentheses in it.  Also, some images will have to be slightly renamed but I've alredy put out a request to {{u|Kenji-girl}}.  (Actually, this would have been a great time to use that "Wanted images" thing I wanted.  Did anything else look wrong in the coding?  (It was my first time using parser hooks).--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 02:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::The example doesn't have the parentheses in it.  Also, some images will have to be slightly renamed but I've alredy put out a request to {{u|Kenji-girl}}.  (Actually, this would have been a great time to use that "Wanted images" thing I wanted.  Did anything else look wrong in the coding?  (It was my first time using parser hooks).--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 02:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
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::::::::::::::With some help from {{u|Chungkingpun}}, all the Pokémon have been done.  Now if only Kenji would rename the sprites.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 18:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::With some help from {{u|Chungkingpun}}, all the Pokémon have been done.  Now if only Kenji would rename the sprites.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 18:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:? What sprites? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:56, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:? What sprites? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:56, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::The sprites that appear with dashes in them in the second table here: [[Field move]] as well as another sprite that indicates that the Pokémon has no field move.  The images are named without a number and that screws up with the section of the template that asks for one.  I have all the pages calling for <{{tt|Name|Such as Agility}}>_-fieldmove.PNG (note the underscore and dash).  It would also be necessary for the "no field move sprite" ([[Image:Nofieldmove.PNG]]) to be renamed as None_-fieldmove.PNG.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 03:37, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::The sprites that appear with dashes in them in the second table here: [[Field move]] as well as another sprite that indicates that the Pokémon has no field move.  The images are named without a number and that screws up with the section of the template that asks for one.  I have all the pages calling for <{{tt|Name|Such as Agility}}>_-fieldmove.PNG (note the underscore and dash).  It would also be necessary for the "no field move sprite" to be renamed as None_-fieldmove.PNG.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 03:37, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Just... reupload at the archives and stick a delete tag on the old one, replacing it all over Pedia. We can't move images. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:53, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Just... reupload at the archives and stick a delete tag on the old one, replacing it all over Pedia. We can't move images. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:53, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I just need you to change [[Template:Almiapkmn]] so that it says to input "None" instead of "no" and change the example template to demonstrate it.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 03:57, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I just need you to change [[Template:Almiapkmn]] so that it says to input "None" instead of "no" and change the example template to demonstrate it.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 03:57, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
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And link the "no" options (like in the version exclusives) here:
And link the "no" options (like in the version exclusives) here:
[[Template:Tutor]]
{{redlink|Template:Tutor}}
Thanks.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 03:08, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 03:08, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:First one, I would, but it'd mess up the template. People can check out Burmy's page, they aren't stupid. Second... um. What? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:25, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:First one, I would, but it'd mess up the template. People can check out Burmy's page, they aren't stupid. Second... um. What? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:25, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
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:I do agree that {{template|ci}} and {{template|to}} are pretty lazy templates. Unlike for stuff like Pokémon, there's TWO OF THEM. List me off some that you see as lazy. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:I do agree that {{template|ci}} and {{template|to}} are pretty lazy templates. Unlike for stuff like Pokémon, there's TWO OF THEM. List me off some that you see as lazy. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::I'd say ''a lot'' of link templates are lazy if you classify <code><nowiki>{{fi}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{la}}</nowiki></code> lazy, since many of them are similar to those templates except for a lesser range of links. For example, Noland and others, {{template|gen}}, {{template|series2}}, {{template|prof}}... [[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|<span style="color:#000;">—</span>]] <small>'''[[User_talk:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C59CBD;">e</span>]]</small>[[User:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C52052;">A</span>]]''' 23:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::I'd say ''a lot'' of link templates are lazy if you classify <code><nowiki>{{fi}}</nowiki></code> and <code><nowiki>{{la}}</nowiki></code> lazy, since many of them are similar to those templates except for a lesser range of links. For example, Noland and others, {{template|gen}}, {{template|series2}}, {{template|prof}}... [[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|<span style="color:#000;">—</span>]] <small>'''[[User_talk:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C59CBD;">e</span>]]</small>[[User:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C52052;">A</span>]]''' 23:26, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:::4Kids, {{template|Card GB}}, and {{template|Card GB 2}} to name a few.&mdash;[[User:Blazevoir|<span style="color:#F08030">Blaze</span><span style="color:#F85888">voir</span>]]<sub>[[User Talk:Blazevoir|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Blazevoir|Contribs]]</sub> 23:42, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:::4Kids, Card GB, and Card GB 2 to name a few.&mdash;[[User:Blazevoir|<span style="color:#F08030">Blaze</span><span style="color:#F85888">voir</span>]]<sub>[[User Talk:Blazevoir|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Blazevoir|Contribs]]</sub> 23:42, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Actually, those last two are pretty useful for the early TCG card articles, though they can be substituted if they're considered to be lazy. [[User:Cipher|<font style="color:#1874CD;">'''''Cipher'''''</font>]] [[User talk:Cipher|<small style="color:#003F87;">'''''(Talk)'''''</small>]] 23:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Actually, those last two are pretty useful for the early TCG card articles, though they can be substituted if they're considered to be lazy. [[User:Cipher|<font style="color:#1874CD;">'''''Cipher'''''</font>]] [[User talk:Cipher|<small style="color:#003F87;">'''''(Talk)'''''</small>]] 23:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::We are going to have a discussion over AIM to discuss, get rid of, and prevent all of these later tonight. So, if you don't have AIM, get it and be on later tonight. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 00:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::We are going to have a discussion over AIM to discuss, get rid of, and prevent all of these later tonight. So, if you don't have AIM, get it and be on later tonight. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 00:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
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When is it better to use variables and when not?  For example, we assume that we may one day have to use other variables to determine between two forms or even four forms only one of which is shiny but not 28 forms.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 03:13, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
When is it better to use variables and when not?  For example, we assume that we may one day have to use other variables to determine between two forms or even four forms only one of which is shiny but not 28 forms.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 03:13, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:Uhm... well, usually you should have an idea of what you're gonna do with the template... which one? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:Uhm... well, usually you should have an idea of what you're gonna do with the template... which one? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::Just for future reference.  It would be good to know where the line is drawn.  For example, yesterday I made a template to display gender differences in PMD2 portraits.  We can assume that they'll never invent a third gender right so I didn't use variables.  But as I said earlier, why does [[Template:Sprite/4/2formes]] or [[Template:Sprite/4/4formes/1shiny]] take variables such as the National Dex number or the letter identifiying the different sprites whereas [[Template:Sprite/4/28formes]] takes no variables?--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 03:22, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::Just for future reference.  It would be good to know where the line is drawn.  For example, yesterday I made a template to display gender differences in PMD2 portraits.  We can assume that they'll never invent a third gender right so I didn't use variables.  But as I said earlier, why does [[Template:Sprite/4/2formes]] or [[Template:Sprite/4/4formes/1shiny]] take variables such as the National Dex number or the letter identifiying the different sprites whereas {{redlink|Template:Sprite/4/28formes}} takes no variables?--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 03:22, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Because it's insane to think that there'll ever be another Pokémon with 28 forms. There's HIGHLY LIKELY to be another with two and four, though... heck, there are several with two. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:26, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Because it's insane to think that there'll ever be another Pokémon with 28 forms. There's HIGHLY LIKELY to be another with two and four, though... heck, there are several with two. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:26, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::::OK, I guess that makes sense although another one with four forms with only one shiny; I think is less likely than {{tt|some sort of Unown relation|*crosses fingers for lowercase prevos*}}.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 03:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::::OK, I guess that makes sense although another one with four forms with only one shiny; I think is less likely than {{tt|some sort of Unown relation|*crosses fingers for lowercase prevos*}}.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 03:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
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::Will it be made then in the future? [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>''ht''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 23:28, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
::Will it be made then in the future? [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>''ht''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 23:28, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:::If you want you can try your hand at it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:12, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::If you want you can try your hand at it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:12, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Done!: [[Template:Mlentry2special]] (I just ripped out anything that had to do with contests from Gen III and changed the remaining variables).  You guys can double check it.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 03:52, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Done!: {{redlink|Template:Mlentry2special}} (I just ripped out anything that had to do with contests from Gen III and changed the remaining variables).  You guys can double check it.--[[User:MisterE13|<span style="color:#0000FF">Mister</span>]][[User talk:MisterE13|<span style="color:#008000">'''E'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|<span style="color:##800080">13</span>]] 03:52, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


== New TCG Infobox ==
== New TCG Infobox ==