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:I'm not in the United States. I'm in Australia. And please don't misuse talk pages; if you would like to socialize, please use [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forum.php the forums]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:53, 9 September 2012 (UTC) | :I'm not in the United States. I'm in Australia. And please don't misuse talk pages; if you would like to socialize, please use [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forum.php the forums]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:53, 9 September 2012 (UTC) | ||
== The page " | == The page "{{redlink|Unova Pokérap}}" == | ||
The page must be protected to prevent creation because of a speculation crackdown. [[User:Wrrasba|Wrrasba]] ([[User talk:Wrrasba|talk]]) 22:42, 9 September 2012 (UTC) | The page must be protected to prevent creation because of a speculation crackdown. [[User:Wrrasba|Wrrasba]] ([[User talk:Wrrasba|talk]]) 22:42, 9 September 2012 (UTC) | ||
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::::It would also categorize into ''Category:Templates to be phased out''. Is it a good idea? Also, can you delete | ::::It would also categorize into ''Category:Templates to be phased out''. Is it a good idea? Also, can you delete {{redlink|Template:Habitat}}? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 15:47, 15 September 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::::Oh, I hadn't realized those had been completely delinked (over a year ago I did some delinking on those, but never finished). I'm not going to move gameabbrev3 yet, as it had the same issue sup had: it's a gigantic switch. Porygon2 is already used on DiscussDelete, so I don't think it should be reused; [[User:SnorlaxMonster/Sandbox#Template:Superseded|here's a derivative of it I made]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:28, 15 September 2012 (UTC) | :::::Oh, I hadn't realized those had been completely delinked (over a year ago I did some delinking on those, but never finished). I'm not going to move gameabbrev3 yet, as it had the same issue sup had: it's a gigantic switch. Porygon2 is already used on DiscussDelete, so I don't think it should be reused; [[User:SnorlaxMonster/Sandbox#Template:Superseded|here's a derivative of it I made]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:28, 15 September 2012 (UTC) | ||
::::::Ah, I saw. Looks nice. Why is there space next to Kris? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:34, 15 September 2012 (UTC) | ::::::Ah, I saw. Looks nice. Why is there space next to Kris? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:34, 15 September 2012 (UTC) | ||
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I had a theory today. If hex B6, B7, B8 in Red and Blue are special forms of Missingno.; then wouldn't it be logical to assume that they are too in Yellow? I tested this out today and I was correct. All three have different sprites than the regular Yellow Missingno., and do ''not'' freeze the game at all, they act like regular Pokémon. [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:YGlitchB6.png This] is the sprite of Yellow hex B6, just to show you. So I'm guessing that this probably is going to require a lot of changes to the page. How should this be layed out?--[[User:Rsrdaman|<span style="color:#000000">'''×Rsr'''</span>]][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''daman×'''</span>]] 05:30, 23 September 2012 (UTC) | I had a theory today. If hex B6, B7, B8 in Red and Blue are special forms of Missingno.; then wouldn't it be logical to assume that they are too in Yellow? I tested this out today and I was correct. All three have different sprites than the regular Yellow Missingno., and do ''not'' freeze the game at all, they act like regular Pokémon. [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:YGlitchB6.png This] is the sprite of Yellow hex B6, just to show you. So I'm guessing that this probably is going to require a lot of changes to the page. How should this be layed out?--[[User:Rsrdaman|<span style="color:#000000">'''×Rsr'''</span>]][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''daman×'''</span>]] 05:30, 23 September 2012 (UTC) | ||
:Yeah, I had heard that the Yellow equivalents of the Ghost/Fossil forms were different from the general Yellow form. Just treat it as an additional form. Perhaps [[Talk: | :Yeah, I had heard that the Yellow equivalents of the Ghost/Fossil forms were different from the general Yellow form. Just treat it as an additional form. Perhaps [[Talk:MissingNo.#Split|something I suggested shortly after joining]] could be done... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:56, 23 September 2012 (UTC) | ||
::I like the sound of that. I always thought they should have separate pages... They aren't anything alike. I'll start with the whole split tomorrow and add in the 3 new forms.--[[User:Rsrdaman|<span style="color:#000000">'''×Rsr'''</span>]][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''daman×'''</span>]] 06:03, 23 September 2012 (UTC) | ::I like the sound of that. I always thought they should have separate pages... They aren't anything alike. I'll start with the whole split tomorrow and add in the 3 new forms.--[[User:Rsrdaman|<span style="color:#000000">'''×Rsr'''</span>]][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''daman×'''</span>]] 06:03, 23 September 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::I think it would be a better idea to keep the primary page up, but also make subpages (like {{redlink|Missingno./YB6}} or {{redlink|Missingno./B6}}). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:08, 23 September 2012 (UTC) | :::I think it would be a better idea to keep the primary page up, but also make subpages (like {{redlink|Missingno./YB6}} or {{redlink|Missingno./B6}}). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:08, 23 September 2012 (UTC) | ||
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We have small inconsistency on that term. {{p|Lotad}}, {{p|Seedot}} and {{p|Surskit}} are considered to be version-exclusive (though the last one isn't on species page because it's Emerald versus Ruby and Sapphire), but {{p|Regice}} and {{p|Registeel}} aren't. All five require interaction with another game (mixing records or Unova Link). They're linked normally in availability template, but in version-exclusives only the first three are listed, golems aren't. So, what is what? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 09:16, 30 November 2012 (UTC) | We have small inconsistency on that term. {{p|Lotad}}, {{p|Seedot}} and {{p|Surskit}} are considered to be version-exclusive (though the last one isn't on species page because it's Emerald versus Ruby and Sapphire), but {{p|Regice}} and {{p|Registeel}} aren't. All five require interaction with another game (mixing records or Unova Link). They're linked normally in availability template, but in version-exclusives only the first three are listed, golems aren't. So, what is what? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 09:16, 30 November 2012 (UTC) | ||
:Based on [[Talk: | :Based on [[Talk:Game-exclusive Pokémon#Definition of version-exclusive Pokémon|the definition I proposed and wasn't objected to]] two years ago, the golems and Lotad/Seedot/Surskit should be considered version exclusive. I still support this definition. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 06:37, 3 December 2012 (UTC) | ||
== Experience yields... and errors. == | == Experience yields... and errors. == | ||
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::<nowiki>⋯</nowiki> doesn't always render the same. Just look at the Faraway Island article, where the Sign template is used. You admitted that it is useful for usage within templates and yet you went against that same premise when removing it from the template. | ::<nowiki>⋯</nowiki> doesn't always render the same. Just look at the Faraway Island article, where the Sign template is used. You admitted that it is useful for usage within templates and yet you went against that same premise when removing it from the template. | ||
::I fail to see how any of this is damaging to the wiki (and it isn't). [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 22:30, 27 December 2012 (UTC) | ::I fail to see how any of this is damaging to the wiki (and it isn't). [[User:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:blue">Sato</span></b>]][[User talk:SatoMew2|<b><span style="color:pink">Mew</span></b>]] 22:30, 27 December 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::I don't see how the code we currently use is not uniform already. Simply saying "Wikipedia has decided to use it so it must be good" is not an argument for it; evidence must be provided that it is necessary here (e.g. Wikipedia has plenty of policies that simply could not work here due to the difference in size). Wikipedia has a lot more different languages to deal with than us, so the template is particularly useful for them. For us, everything can be uniformly managed without the need for a template. What I will grant is that the Wikipedia template provides a link to an article about installing the character set; this ''is'' something that could be applied here, and as far as I can see, the only real reason we would have to implement a template for this purpose. However, since everything uses Japanese we could probably just put up a general notice (a vast majority of pages have Japanese text on them). I suppose we do have Korean and Chinese text in the "In other languages" sections too (and Korean sometimes on events pages too), but that could easily be addressed by adding such a link to {{template|Langtable}} and making a template like {{wp|Template:Contains Korean text}} to put at the top of the relevant event pages. | |||
:::It is not inaccurate to say text is from a generation rather than specifying the game it is from, as long as it is the only example of that text in that generation. So since both are accurate, the issue is consistency. | |||
:::I think you misunderstood what I was saying when I said it was useful to use HTML for complex characters in templates. It is only useful to do so when the character causes a technical issue. If you put " inside {{template|tt}}, it breaks it (compare {{tt|this|you can't read "this"}} and {{tt|this|you can read "this"}}). The ellipse does not cause technical issues, so I don't see the need to use the HTML code. It doesn't do any harm, but it isn't necessary and makes more sense to use the actual character when you can. As far as I can tell, the characters look exactly the same using the HTML method as using the regular character. | |||
:::I don't think I ever said any of it is damaging to the wiki. Most of it is just unnecessary or inconsistent (or both). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:50, 28 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Hexadecimal disambigs? == | == Hexadecimal disambigs? == | ||
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hey um, I was wondering why the number of edits you need to make to gain autoconfirmed status is secret? im not asking for the number or something, just curious [[User:Latias1290|Latias1290]] ([[User talk:Latias1290|talk]]) 18:45, 27 December 2012 (UTC) | hey um, I was wondering why the number of edits you need to make to gain autoconfirmed status is secret? im not asking for the number or something, just curious [[User:Latias1290|Latias1290]] ([[User talk:Latias1290|talk]]) 18:45, 27 December 2012 (UTC) | ||
:Because we don't want people to quickly make the required number of edits, give up on the mainspace, and solely edit their userspace. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 23:12, 27 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
::ah ok [[User:Latias1290|Latias1290]] ([[User talk:Latias1290|talk]]) 11:05, 28 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
== [[User talk:Mikoro/Archive]] == | == [[User talk:Mikoro/Archive]] == | ||
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:#SnorlaxMonster did not edit your page, Spriteit did. | :#SnorlaxMonster did not edit your page, Spriteit did. | ||
:#Staff members are allowed to edit personal pages of other users at any time, provided that they do not change the output. Removing non-existent templates, as Spriteit did on your page, falls under this. This is because non-existent templates show up on the wanted pages list if someone is trying to use them. Spriteit's edit did not in any way change the appearance nor functionality of your template. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 19:57, 27 December 2012 (UTC) | :#Staff members are allowed to edit personal pages of other users at any time, provided that they do not change the output. Removing non-existent templates, as Spriteit did on your page, falls under this. This is because non-existent templates show up on the wanted pages list if someone is trying to use them. Spriteit's edit did not in any way change the appearance nor functionality of your template. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 19:57, 27 December 2012 (UTC) | ||
== PWT == | |||
Move deleter and move relearner [http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2872/bpkmnwh25120871.png Japanese names] (both doesn't match with what we have, while the third is Move Tutor... renamed? Relearner was renamed to Reminder in English, but what about Deleter?)... also what move tutors (oddly enough, Driftveil doesn't have the Move Tutor on Town Map)? You might also want to take a look at [http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1065/pocketmonstersfireredja.png this], to see if in Japanese FRLG Blue refers to himself by different title than "Pokémon Champion" or "Pokémon League Champion". (also seeing how the Underground Ruins chambers' names are based off keys...we might wanna also go for [http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/9177/gracidea.png Japanese names]{{tt|*|First is difficulty (Easy, Normal, Challenge), then Area (Forest and then City), and last are Ruins (Rock Peak, Iron and Iceberg - in that order)}} of these things) [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 12:37, 28 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I think that the names we have is the names of the individuals, while this is the names of the services. For example, わざおしえ人 is ''Move Teacher'' and what we currently have on [[Move Tutor]], while わざおしえ is ''Move Teaching'' and what the map says. "Move relearner" has always been a fan term for an unnamed character (well, they have been called "Move Maniacs" before or something to that effect). League Champ is ポケモン リーグの ちょうてん ''Pokémon League's Greatest'' in Japanese—it looks like it may not even be a proper term for the title and just his name for himself though. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:13, 28 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Move Needed == | |||
[[Talk:Yoshi]], bringing to someone who'll hopefully know the proper tags needed. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 04:15, 31 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Replied there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 04:21, 31 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks, I replied back. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] ([[User talk:Drake Clawfang|talk]]) 04:24, 31 December 2012 (UTC) | |||