User:Nescientist/Move research notes

These are my notes from after I went through all moves and compared them with UPC, Showdown and others. (They were originally written for personal use, but they might be useful for anyone regardless.) May not be up to date, and I don't plan to update this, really. I'm not mad if someone else "uses my work" such as for improving Bulbapedia (that's why I publish them), as long as they don't mistake these notes as "proof" per se.

A-Z things

• Assurance boosted by Pain Split Gen IV? http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/dex/index.html%3Flang=en&move=372.html
• Brick Break GenIII removes opposing screens regardless of target? http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/dex/index.html%3Flang=en&move=280.html
  • Checked that, but didn't check Protection/immunity interaction from Pokewiki
• Bide "adds last damage"; accuracy check GenII(-III)?; GenII+ considers all multi-strike hits http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/dex/index.html%3Flang=en&move=117.html
• Brick Break Gen III opponent screens removed even when ally targeted? http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/dex/index.html%3Flang=en&move=372.html
• Bug Bite/Pluck missing interactions, no Custap Berry see http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/dex/index.html%3Flang=en&move=450.html
  • Checked, Custap Berry is irrelevant imo even if it's true
• [Double Edge+variations 33% (not 1/3) Gen V onward; probably too hard to test]
• [DragonRage 40/SonicBoom 20 power display GenII; maybe not even worth a mention]
• Explosion/SelfDestruct user won't faint lack of target http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/dex/index.html%3Flang=en&move=153.html
• Fairy Lock fails when used consecutively
• -Flail/Reversal GenIV-only different percentages (64 instead of 48) http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/dex/index.html%3Flang=en&move=175.html
• -Flail/Reversal no variation+no crit GenII https://github.com/pret/pokecrystal/blob/700321a7fb2d6c852ffc91cc0b8867526cb76813/battle/moves/move_effects.asm#L1410
• Flame Burst adjacent damage interactions? (Mirror Coat/Metal Burst/Mirror Move/Substitute/Wimp Out/..)
• Fling will consume item even if target protected or no target (sometimes silently); [Klutz only Gen V+] see http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/dex/index.html%3Flang=en&move=374.html
  • I think I've confirmed everything except "item's identity not revealed" (which is too minor imo)
• -Frustration/Return format (similar to Crush Grip?)
• -[Fusion Bolt/Flare format]
  • No idea what I meant. Probably done.
• Leech Seed same target from two users? (which gens?)
  • Tested, no.
• -Life Orb/Expert Belt wording (power->damage)
• Lock-On/Mind-Reader during effect, move "ends effect for everyone else against the target" GenIII-IV; during effect, move "fails for the user" during effect GenV+ http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/dex/index.html%3Flang=en&move=199.html
• Magic Room form-changing items
  • Done by SnorlaxMonster
• Magnet Rise/Telekinesis +grounded; +Sticky Web; [Spikes/Toxic Spikes still immune when Ingrain (TEST)]
• Mirror Move rewrite (probably table)
• Moongeist Beam/Sunsteel Strike ignore Abilities of all other Pokémon (redirection), but NOT No Guard?
• Mud Sport/Water Sport Gen V(+) five turns?? even if the user switches out????? (tested GenIII, more than 5) see http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/dex/index.html%3Flang=en&move=300.html
• Multi-Attack do research (Magic Room, Klutz, Normalize, -ate, Ion Deluge, Electrify)
• Petal Dance/Outrage/Thrash miss behavior GenI&II
  • I think I once found out that there's no need to research here
• Power Trick ignored upon Forme change, but still Baton-Passable ("on")
• -Protection moves Z-Move 25%
• Safeguard no Outrage confusion Gen II only? (GenII https://github.com/pret/pokecrystal/blob/master/battle/effect_commands.asm#L6567 http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/dex/index.html%3Flang=en&move=219.html)
  • Tested GenIII, updated article.
• Sleep Talk +Belch/HoldHands/Mimic(V+)/NaturePower(V+)/Struggle(V+)/anyChargingTurnMove
• Sleep Talk no Counter/MirrorCoat Gen II
• [Substitute; mostly correct, except when mentioned elsewhere]
• Switcheroo/Trick fails if EITHER holds Z-Crystal
  • I think SnorlaxMonster got that
• Synchronoise type additions research?
• Topsy-Turvy fails if all stages are 0
• Toxic Spikes substitute prevents GenIV, doesn't GenV+
• [Transform; probably correct]
• [Triple Kick/Twister/.. doubles/triples damage (before variation); probably not worth it]
• U-Turn/Volt Switch Wimp Out/Emergency Exit interaction; wording (Experience gain etc.)
• Water Pledge/Pledges combo auto-STAB and unaffected by Storm Drain

Bigger "projects" (some of which might need approval)

• -Accuracy misses (SnorlaxMonster talk)
• Accuracy move
• Berry SM descriptions
• Crash damage article creation
• Critical hit
  • Done, except for Stick/Lucky Punch set the value to 2 in GenII (and ignore the rest), and checking the Wonder Launcher Dire Hits (currently unable)
• HP-draining moves substitute (as per Substitute (move)): no heal GenI, fails Gen II, heals lost by substitute GenIII+ (Dream Eater GenV+))
• Move Infobox updated template creation
  • Waiting for approval. Still.
• Multi-strike moves wording; substitute break+continue GenII
  • I think I've only done Twineedle? Rule of thumb: Substitute page is correct.
• PRNG GenI/II
• Protection moves article creation
• Sound moves substitute GenVI+
  • Should be fine with the new infobox and related updates?
• Target/range article creation
• Weather-inducing moves/Abilities simplification (creates {{weather|<weather>}} and that's it)
• Weight article creation (&Autotomize)

Contradictions to Showdown (battle engine)

• [some rounding/precision and/or power vs. damage]
• Flags:
  • [some (new) authentic/mirrormove flags]
• Other (not already mentioned above):
  • Struggle GenII+III 50% recoil (..no!?)
  • Tickle GenIII through substitute (tested, added)
  • Tri-Attack GenII fails to inflict status to Normal-types (..no)

Additional Showdown

• Assist: +Bestow, HoldHands
• Copycat: +Bestow, CircleThrow, DragonTail, NaturePower (GenV+), RagePowder, Transform (GenV+); +BanefulBunker, Roar/Whirlwind (GenVI+)
• Final Gambit contact GenV ONLY (see talk there)
• Metronome +Celebrate/CraftyShield/DiamondStorm/DragonAscent/HappyHour/HoldHands/HyperspaceFury/HyperspaceHole/KingsShield/LightofRuin/MatBlock/OriginPulse/PrecipiceBlades/SpikyShield/SteamEruption/ThousandArrows/ThousandWaves/Z-Moves
• they have Baton Pass ignorers ("noCopy:true")

Additional pokecrystal to keep in mind

• Baton Pass ignorers (but also see Showdown, and User:SnorlaxMonster/StatusInfobox/Battle status)
• Stick/LuckyPunch does not stack with increased crit ratio moves (see above)

From existing moveResearch/incomplete tags

NOTE: outdated (some is solved, new ones added), just use the category

• Bide semi-invulnerable
• Embargo lucky egg genIVV; form-changing items (magic room)
• Entrainment Imposter genV
• Floral Healing restoring
• (Galvanize Lightning Rod status moves)
• Guts frozen Flame Wheel increase? (rattata breed flame wheel?)
• Instruct Laser Focus/Energy Focus/Lock-On
• Mimic transform
• Poison Touch before Mummy
• Role Play Imposter genV (Power Construct)
• Secret Power remove double tag
• Sheer Force Throat Chop
• Skydrop Bronzong/Metang Light/Heavy Metal
• Skill Swap Imposter genV
• Trace Imposter genV
• Transform PP Ups

Flags etc.

SUBSTITUTE/AUTHENTIC:
Foresight
Grudge
Guard Swap
Heart Swap
Hold Hands (tested)
Hyperspace Fury
Hyperspace Hole
Instruct
Me First
Miracle Eye
Odor Sleuth
Play Nice
Power Swap
Reflect Type
Sketch
Skill Swap
Snatch
Speed Swap
Torment
Roar
Whirlwind
++++++++++ONWARD:+++++++++++++
Bide
Chatter
Clamp
Comet Punch
Crabhammer
Cut
Dig
Dizzy Punch
Doom Desire
Double Hit
Double Kick
Double Slap
Double-Edge
Draco Meteor&variations
Dragon Pulse
Dragon Rush
Drain Punch
Echoed Voice
EnergyBall
Explosion/Self-Destruct
Extrasensory
Extreme Speed
Fire Blast
Fire Pledge
Fire Spin
Flamethrower
Frost Breath
Fury Attack
Giga Drain
Grass Pledge
Gunk Shot
Heat Wave
Hex
Horn Leech
Hurricane
Hydro Pump
Hyper Voice
Ice Beam
Icicle Spear
Incinerate
Leaf Storm
Lick
Low Sweep
Magma Storm
Meteor Mash
Muddy Water
Pin Missile
Poison Fang
Poison Gas
Psywave
Rock Tomb
Round
Sand Tomb
Skull Bash
Sky Attack
Smog
Sonic Boom
Steamroller
Stomp
Storm Throw
Struggle Bug
Submission
Surf
Synchronoise
Technoblast
Thrash
Thunder Punch
Thunder Shock
Thunderbolt
Tri Attack
Trump Card
Vine Whip
Wake-Up Slap
Water Pledge
Waterfall
++++++++++MIRRORMOVE:+++++++++++++
[Baby-Doll Eyes]
Charge Beam
Chip Away
Circle Throw
Clear Smog
Close Combat
Cross Poison
Crush Claw
Dark Pulse
Dark Void
[Dazzling Gleam]
Defog
[Diamond Storm]
Dig
[Disarming Voice]
Discharge
Double Hit
Draco Meteor
[Dragon Ascent]
Dragon Claw
Dragon Pulse
Dragon Rush
Dragon Tail
[Draining Kiss]
Drill Run
Dual Chop
Earth Power
Echoed Voice
[Eerie Impulse]
[Electrify]
Electro Ball
[Electro Web]
Embargo
Energy Ball
Entrainment
Extrasensory
[FairyLock]
Fairy Wind
Fake Tears
FellStinger
Fiery Dance
Fire Fang
Fire Pledge
Fissure
Flame Burst
Flame Charge
Flare Blitz
Flash Cannon
Fling
Flying Press
Focus Blast
Force Palm
Forest's Curse
Foul Play
Freeze Shock
Freeze-Dry
Frenzy Plant
Fusion Bolt
Fusion Flare
Gear Grind
Giga Impact
Glaciate
Grass Knot
Grass Pledge
Guillotine
Gunk Shot
Hammer Arm
Head Charge
Head Smash
Heal Block
Heart Stamp
Heart Swap
Heat Crash
Heavy Slam
Hex
Hold Back
Horn Leech
Hurricane
Hyper Voice
Ice Burn
Ice Fang
Ice Shard
Icicle Crash
Icicle Spear
Incinerate
Instruct
Iron Head
Land's Wrath
Last Resort
Lava Plume
Leaf Blade
Leaf Storm
Leaf Tornado
Light of Ruin
Low Sweep
Magic Room
Magical Leaf
Magma Storm
Metal Burst
Metal Sound
Meteor Mash
Miracle Eye
Mirror Shot
[Moonblast]
Mud Bomb
Mud Shot
Muddy Water
Mystical Fire
Needle Arm
Night Daze
Night Slash
[Noble Roar]
[Nuzzle]
[Oblivion Wing]
Odor Sleuth
Ominous Wind
[Origin Pulse]
Overheat
[Parabolic Charge]
[Parting Shot]
Pay Day
Petal Blizzard
[Phantom Force]
[Play Nice]
Poison Fang
Poison Jab
Powder
Power Gem
Power Swap
Power Whip
Power-Up Punch
[Precipice Blades]
Psycho Boost
Psycho Cut
Psycho Shift
Psyshock
Psystrike
Punishment
Razor Shell
Relic Song
Retaliate
Roar of Time
Rock Blast
Rock Climb
Rock Tomb
Rock Wrecker
Round
Sacred Sword
Sand Tomb
Scald
Seed Bomb
Seed Flare
Shadow Claw
Shadow Punch
Shadow Sneak
Sheer Cold
Signal Beam
Silver Wind
Simple Beam
Sky Drop
Sky Uppercut
Sludge Wave
Smack Down
Snarl
Spacial Rend
[Steam Eruption]
Steamroller
Stored Power
Storm Throw
Struggle Bug
Sucker Punch
Switcheroo
Synchronoise
Tail Slap
Telekinesis
Thousand Arrows
Thousand Waves
Thunder Fang
Thunder Punch
Tickle
[Topsy-Turvy]
U-Turn
V-create
[Venom Drench]
Venoshock
Volt Switch
Volt Tackle
Wake-Up Slap
Water Pledge
Water Pulse
Water Spout
Wild Charge
Wood Hammer
Worry Seed
Wring Out
X-Scissor
Zen Headbutt