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::I can also confirm an Ice Fang on my latest test. My starter was Torchic. Going to swap between Mudkip and Torchic for tests, then do a couple of Treecko again. After that, it should be enough to say there's a link between starter and - er - Fang. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 04:27, 29 December 2014 (UTC) | ::I can also confirm an Ice Fang on my latest test. My starter was Torchic. Going to swap between Mudkip and Torchic for tests, then do a couple of Treecko again. After that, it should be enough to say there's a link between starter and - er - Fang. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 04:27, 29 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
:::All right, add two Fire Fangs for a Mudkip starter. Are all of yours also Fire Fang? If so, I don't think we even need to test Torchic further, as Mudkip and Treecko both have numerous results (and none conflicting) for Fire Fang and Thunder Fang, so we can call this a case like getting one of the elemental monkeys in Unova (though I don't see how Thunder Fang covers Fire types; guess it's for Surfing later on). Prepping the edit, but will wait for your reply if you're here. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 05:11, 29 December 2014 (UTC) | :::All right, add two Fire Fangs for a Mudkip starter. Are all of yours also Fire Fang? If so, I don't think we even need to test Torchic further, as Mudkip and Treecko both have numerous results (and none conflicting) for Fire Fang and Thunder Fang, so we can call this a case like getting one of the elemental monkeys in Unova (though I don't see how Thunder Fang covers Fire types; guess it's for Surfing later on). Prepping the edit, but will wait for your reply if you're here. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 05:11, 29 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
::::Well, I have 3 (4 with my original report elsewhere) Fire Fangs so far for Mudkip. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:22, 29 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::::I got a thunderfang with treeko.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 09:00, 29 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Poochyena/Zigzagoon chasing Birch == | |||
So I'm trying to work out what'll happen if you lose that battle right after picking your starter. Now, we all know that once your starter's health gets to the red, Poochyena/Zigzagoon will run away. But I'm wondering, what if it gets a crit? Well, I've been testing it, and... I dunno if it's just me or what, but that Zigzagoon will not get a critical hit! Is it just my luck, or did they really think of everything? <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 01:48, 26 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Statistics == | |||
So, where do you guys take the appearance ratio of the Pokémon? Is there any piece of code or evidence to say that Wurmple appears X% and Poochyena Y% ? My questions applies for every route in every game. [[User:MannedTooth|<span style="color:#FF8000"> MannedTooth </span>]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 22:36, 12 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, the game's code dictates what the rates are. That's where we get them from (except in a few rare cases, mostly in the recent games like for {{DL|Lost Hotel|trash cans}} where that data hasn't been deciphered yet). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:42, 12 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::I would like to get these codes if possible, how can I do that? [[User:MannedTooth|<span style="color:#FF8000"> MannedTooth </span>]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 23:51, 12 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::They're not "codes". It's the game's code, coding. | |||
:::Why do you need to know that stuff yourself? All the games are more or less different from each other, it's not a simple matter of saying "this is what it is in every game, go wild". You may just want to do some searching yourself with terms like "encounter rates" and "encounter tables". Sites like [https://projectpokemon.org/forums/ Project Pokemon] and [[Smogon]] also tend to have users who are more intimate with those technical details. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:17, 13 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::I know what a source code is, but usually, companies tend to not give them away. So I've been looking for them but without result, I was just wondering how these guys did. [[User:MannedTooth|<span style="color:#FF8000"> MannedTooth </span>]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 00:29, 13 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::I didn't strictly say source code, though... If you just look through the machine instructions/assembly (the ROM), you're gonna be able to see how the game works—which isn't to say that's necessarily a trivial task, though. (Encryption on later games also makes it a bit harder to even read the ROMs in the first place.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:46, 13 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::::::More to build on what Tiddlywinks has said, the people who have done this are people who have devices that can read and write to the 3DS, if not a modded 3DS that already does this, can view and edit files with a PC, and have created or used programs that can bypass the rounds of encryption that the 3DS uses. So, we do have the proper evidence to say that the appearance ratio is correct. If you want to explore more on how to find it within the game, then I would recommend going to link provided by Tiddlywink. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 03:21, 13 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Well, that clears my doubts! :P Thanks guys! [[User:MannedTooth|<span style="color:#FF8000"> MannedTooth </span>]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 03:23, 13 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Other Starter Pokemon == | |||
Ok so going by this page it says you get a Johto starter after speaking to Zinnia after first entering the Hall of Fame. But this was not the case for me. I went back to littleroot town constantly through out the Delta Episode and did not get a prompt when leaving to route 101 for Prof. Birch. I have now since completed the Delta Episode and I am training for my second Pokemon League completion and now only after beating the Delta Episode was I given the option to get a Johto Starter. So why is this? will I be able to get the rest after beating the league another two times? or is something a miss? [[User:BTHR Zero X|BTHR Zero X]] ([[User talk:BTHR Zero X|talk]]) 00:38, 17 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:''"If the above conditions are met, then the next time the player '''exits their house''' in Littleroot Town, Professor Birch will be heard yelling for help from Route 101."'' From what you said above, it doesn't sound like you were doing that exactly. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:41, 17 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
::I have been in and out the houses and lab several times now with no luck. After doing some googling others have stated this issue also. So maybe they exact method for getting the event to tick is not list here? [[User:BTHR Zero X|BTHR Zero X]] ([[User talk:BTHR Zero X|talk]]) 04:23, 17 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
:::It's tough asking you what your exact situation was in the past. So... | |||
:::What's your exact situation now, and are you having a problem with this now? If so, we can try to troubleshoot it. If not, maybe you can proceed (if you still have a starter to unlock) and see if you run into any more trouble. | |||
:::Beyond that, I've not had trouble in the past myself, a few other people have said similarly, and I'm sure a silent majority also haven't had any problems. I don't want to dismiss your problems out of hand, but if you can't either tell me how to replicate the troubles you're having or give some ''very strong'' proof (like a video that runs from you clearing one condition to not being able to trigger Birch's event), it's really hard for me to just take your word. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:42, 17 February 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Prof. Birch's Wife? == | |||
One time, after I beat the elite 4 & champion, and after walking out onto route 101, I found Prof. Birch being chased by his wife instead of a Poochyena. I couldn't find anything about this on the page, so I just wanted to put this here because I'm not sure what makes this happen. {{unsigned|Kermit XP}} | |||
:It's part of the starter thing. That detail's not mentioned just because it's not terribly important, and trying to include it just starts cluttering up what's already there more than it already is. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:17, 10 June 2016 (UTC) | |||