Talk:Pokémon the Series: Difference between revisions

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::::By '''all''' the official references? I am sorry but that has severe logical fallacies, when you fail to consider the TPC sources, not just TPCi ones. Once again, my argument is that it is wrong to permanently reserve 'the series' part for the Ash story. The series naming convention was invented exclusively for the anime series, not for Ash or a character arc, but to have a consistent style for the anime episodes similar to how they approach movies. They still use it, even after Ash, hence Pokemon Horizons: The Series, exactly like Pokemon Journeys: The Series. It is not the oppposite of future proofing to consider the possibility of something as generic as 'the series' to be used again. Hyper focusing on a '''few''' official references, while completely ignoring the others is confirmation bias. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m01fq_kJNo There] [https://tw.portal-pokemon.com/special/hot_info/anime_movie/s26/ are] [https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=383050927891616 official] sources, TPC itself not TPCi, who label it as S26, yet we choose to ignore that and title the season article in full. The entire reason behind pedia using abbreviations was to make it easier for the average reader to find articles easily while keeping the accuracy intact. I am not inventing anything drastically different when I say that the main anime article should be titled based on epicode order or the character saga added at the end of its name, as opposed to reserving an entire generic term such as 'Pokemon the Series' as a character saga and negating anything after. Being concluded doesn't negate the fact that it was very much a part of the main series as it was airing, same as Horizons or any future series. We literally have 'twenty-sixth season' bit mentioned in the very first paragraph of the article, and yet the article is called 'Pokémon Horizons: The Series (season)' and that's precisely the problem. We even have S26 redirecting to the same article. Do you see the gaping flaw here? We are bending over backwards to focus on a '''set''' of official references to fit a specific narrative. Hence the entire argument. [[User:Adil|<span style="color:#009900;">'''Adil'''</span>]] — [[User talk:Adil|<span style="color:#003399;">'''Talk page'''</span>]] 11:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
::::By '''all''' the official references? I am sorry but that has severe logical fallacies, when you fail to consider the TPC sources, not just TPCi ones. Once again, my argument is that it is wrong to permanently reserve 'the series' part for the Ash story. The series naming convention was invented exclusively for the anime series, not for Ash or a character arc, but to have a consistent style for the anime episodes similar to how they approach movies. They still use it, even after Ash, hence Pokemon Horizons: The Series, exactly like Pokemon Journeys: The Series. It is not the oppposite of future proofing to consider the possibility of something as generic as 'the series' to be used again. Hyper focusing on a '''few''' official references, while completely ignoring the others is confirmation bias. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m01fq_kJNo There] [https://tw.portal-pokemon.com/special/hot_info/anime_movie/s26/ are] [https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=383050927891616 official] sources, TPC itself not TPCi, who label it as S26, yet we choose to ignore that and title the season article in full. The entire reason behind pedia using abbreviations was to make it easier for the average reader to find articles easily while keeping the accuracy intact. I am not inventing anything drastically different when I say that the main anime article should be titled based on epicode order or the character saga added at the end of its name, as opposed to reserving an entire generic term such as 'Pokemon the Series' as a character saga and negating anything after. Being concluded doesn't negate the fact that it was very much a part of the main series as it was airing, same as Horizons or any future series. We literally have 'twenty-sixth season' bit mentioned in the very first paragraph of the article, and yet the article is called 'Pokémon Horizons: The Series (season)' and that's precisely the problem. We even have S26 redirecting to the same article. Do you see the gaping flaw here? We are bending over backwards to focus on a '''set''' of official references to fit a specific narrative. Hence the entire argument. [[User:Adil|<span style="color:#009900;">'''Adil'''</span>]] — [[User talk:Adil|<span style="color:#003399;">'''Talk page'''</span>]] 11:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::But you see? What you are doing is bending over backwards with the opposite set of resources in order to fit *your* narrative. Many of your concerns have already [[Bulbapedia_talk:Project_Anime#Organizational_improvements_in_response_to_Horizons|been worked through]], and have plans in progress and [[User:Boblers/Pokémon_anime#Television_series|drafts]] written [[User:Boblers/Pokémon the Series|out]] handling the facts as they are written. The goal of the wiki is to inform and reflect the source material as it is, not as we like it to be. And when official resources conflict, there is literally no choice but to pick one over another. In this case, we have chosen to prioritize the Japanese and English information as the original creators of the source material, and noting the derivative official source material somewhere in the page. I recommend either asking questions or waiting to see what is written before assuming the worst. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 12:09, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::But you see? What you are doing is bending over backwards with the opposite set of resources in order to fit *your* narrative. Many of your concerns have already [[Bulbapedia_talk:Project_Anime#Organizational_improvements_in_response_to_Horizons|been worked through]], and have plans in progress and [[User:Boblers/Pokémon_anime#Television_series|drafts]] written [[User:Boblers/Pokémon the Series|out]] handling the facts as they are written. The goal of the wiki is to inform and reflect the source material as it is, not as we like it to be. And when official resources conflict, there is literally no choice but to pick one over another. In this case, we have chosen to prioritize the Japanese and English information as the original creators of the source material, and noting the derivative official source material somewhere in the page. I recommend either asking questions or waiting to see what is written before assuming the worst. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 12:09, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::Whatever you say. You're the boss. You asked for input, and I have given mine. Good luck. [[User:Adil|<span style="color:#009900;">'''Adil'''</span>]] — [[User talk:Adil|<span style="color:#003399;">'''Talk page'''</span>]] 12:47, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
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