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 I should point out that the term has been used officially, on a promotion for a Salazzle event and the Necrozma page on the official USUM site. [[User:PinkYoshiGaming|PinkYoshiGaming]] ([[User talk:PinkYoshiGaming|talk]]) 16:55, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 :Do you have any links to these sources? [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="F34134">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="8334B7">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 07:47, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
+== The term "Signature" has become so muddled over the years and we really need to do something about it ==
+Please tell me i'm not the only one who thinks Bulbapedia's whole "signature move/Ability" definition has become so muddled over the years. Like take {{a|Flower Veil}} for example:
+* Is signature to {{p|Flabébé}} etc in Gen 6
+* Is no longer signature to Flabebe in Gen 7 because they gave it to {{p|Comfey}}
+* Is signature to Comfey in Gen 8 because Flabebe doesn't appear in SwSh
+* So since Comfey isn't in Gen 9 but Flabebe is, i guess it's signature to Flabebe again????????
+Like, wtf is this??? Why do we distinguish signature moves/abilities by whether or not a mon appears in a game? Just because Flabebe doesn't appear in any of the Gen 8 games doesn't mean it suddenly somehow lost its Flower Veil ability (it still keeps it in like HOME or something). The system we have rn for determining "signature" moves/Abilities really unnecessarily complicates things.
+I talked about this on the Discord (both BP's own and another i'm in), and fellow editor TrainerSplash made a suggestion: instead of us continuing to use the term "signature" and run it into the ground, we use another term, '''exclusive''', for mons with a "signature" move/Ability because other mons with that move/Ability aren't in the games. Eg.:
+* Instead of saying "In Generation 8, Water Shuriken is Accelgor's signature move" (because Greninja isn't in the game), we say "In SwSh, Water Shuriken is exclusive to Accelgor".
+* Or something like this:
+** Prior to Generation 7, Flower Gift is Flabebe's signature Ability.
+*** In SwSh, Flower Gift is exclusive to Comfey.
+*** In SV, Flower Gift is exclusive to Flabebe.
+It makes it so much simpler and less cluttered. If it's no longer signature, it's no longer signature; doesn't matter if the other mons appear in the games or not; their data still exists in HOME or something similar. If it's exclusive, we say it as exclusive, not signature.
+Idk, what do you guys think?
+[[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 08:56, 30 November 2022 (UTC)