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From reading Gen I and II disassembly code, the following seems to hold true: | From reading Gen I and II disassembly code, the following seems to hold true: | ||
* In Gen I, Ground types cannot become paralyzed by Electric-type moves (that's the only restriction); | * In Gen I, Ground types cannot become paralyzed by Electric-type moves (that's the only restriction); | ||
* In Gen II, Pokémon cannot become paralyzed by moves they are immune to (i.e. Ground types to Electric-type moves, ''but also Ghost-types to Glare''). (The reason being that in Gen II, paralyze moves [https://github.com/pret/pokecrystal/blob/700321a7fb2d6c852ffc91cc0b8867526cb76813/battle/moves/move_effects.asm#L1194 seem to be] running through the stab routine, which is where immunities branch off to "no effect"; | * In Gen II, Pokémon cannot become paralyzed by moves they are immune to (i.e. Ground types to Electric-type moves, ''but also Ghost-types to Glare''). (The reason being that in Gen II, paralyze moves [https://github.com/pret/pokecrystal/blob/700321a7fb2d6c852ffc91cc0b8867526cb76813/battle/moves/move_effects.asm#L1194 seem to be] running through the stab routine, which is where immunities branch off to "no effect"; sleep does not.) | ||
Furthermore, UPC [http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/dex/index.html%3Flang=en&move=137.html suggests] that this behavior has carried over at least to Gen III (as does Showdown), and according to [[Normalize (Ability)]], it seems to be still the case for Thunder Wave. The question is when did they change it for the other paralyzing moves (if at all). So, is anyone willing to test Glare against Ghost types in different generations? In addition, in case it does carry on at least to Gen IV (which I believe it may not), would somebody be willing to test it for Normalize Stun Spore (Stun Spore was affected by this in Gen II, but as nothing is immune to Grass and Normalize is the first type-changing effect, I can't think of a way you could observe that back then). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 21:51, 5 February 2017 (UTC) | Furthermore, UPC [http://upcarchive.playker.info/0/upokecenter/dex/index.html%3Flang=en&move=137.html suggests] that this behavior has carried over at least to Gen III (as does Showdown), and according to [[Normalize (Ability)]], it seems to be still the case for Thunder Wave. The question is when did they change it for the other paralyzing moves (if at all). So, is anyone willing to test Glare against Ghost types in different generations? In addition, in case it does carry on at least to Gen IV (which I believe it may not), would somebody be willing to test it for Normalize Stun Spore (Stun Spore was affected by this in Gen II, but as nothing is immune to Grass and Normalize is the first type-changing effect, I can't think of a way you could observe that back then). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 21:51, 5 February 2017 (UTC) | ||