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== Mirage spots ==
== Mirage spots ==


Was it ever 100% confirmed that the mysterious portals scattered around [[Hoenn]] (e.g. {{p|Lugia}}/{{p|Ho-Oh}} at [[Sea Mauville]]) were the work of a Hoopa? - [[User:Chosen|<span style="color:#F85888">Chosen</span>]] <span style="color:#6890F0">of</span> [[User talk:Chosen|<span style="color:#F8D030">Mana</span>]] 15:11, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
Was it ever 100% confirmed that the mysterious portals scattered around [[Hoenn]] (e.g. {{p|Lugia}}/{{p|Ho-Oh}} at [[Sea Mauville]]) were the work of a Hoopa? - [[User:Coffee|<span style="color:#F85888">Chosen</span>]] <span style="color:#6890F0">of</span> [[User talk:Coffee|<span style="color:#F8D030">Mana</span>]] 15:11, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
:I don't know it was ever suggested... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:16, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
:I don't know it was ever suggested... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:16, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
::I haven't heard of anything official that says Hoopa is responsible for the portals, but they are identical to portals that appear in the animation for Hyperspace Fury. In addition, although this may be more speculative, I believe [[M18|the next movie]] has been confirmed to involve Hoopa using rings to transport things around [[User:Litwick96|Litwick96]] ([[User talk:Litwick96|talk]]) 15:29, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
::I haven't heard of anything official that says Hoopa is responsible for the portals, but they are identical to portals that appear in the animation for Hyperspace Fury. In addition, although this may be more speculative, I believe [[M18|the next movie]] has been confirmed to involve Hoopa using rings to transport things around [[User:Litwick96|Litwick96]] ([[User talk:Litwick96|talk]]) 15:29, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
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:The wiki tends to say [Forme] Hoopa, but as I added for Picross, the game says Hoopa Confined. So, I don't know... [[User:MannedTooth|<span style="color:#FF8000"> MannedTooth </span>]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 02:58, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
:The wiki tends to say [Forme] Hoopa, but as I added for Picross, the game says Hoopa Confined. So, I don't know... [[User:MannedTooth|<span style="color:#FF8000"> MannedTooth </span>]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 02:58, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
::It's officially called Hoopa Confined and Hoopa Unobund on [http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-us/pokemon/hoopa the official website] --[[User:Mine4017|Mine4017]] ([[User talk:Mine4017|talk]]) 03:01, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
::It's officially called Hoopa Confined and Hoopa Unobund on [http://www.pokemonrubysapphire.com/en-us/pokemon/hoopa the official website] --[[User:Mine4017|Mine4017]] ([[User talk:Mine4017|talk]]) 03:01, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
Official sources trump wiki. "Hoopa [Forme]" it is. Now, if I'm reading this talk page right, the article is protected. Somebody want to contact whosoever is permitted to edit the article so as to fix it? I really don't want to get blocked over a miscommunication again. [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|<font color="black">Giratina's Embodiment</font>]] <small>- [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|<font color="black">Please don't hurt us...</font>]]</small> 19:56, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
== Generation VII form change? ==
The article currently states (in the intro paragraph) that in Generation VII, placing Hoopa Unbound in the PC pauses the timer for this alternate form. However, I didn't find that to be the case with my own Hoopa when I tried it out on my copy of Moon. Here's what I did:
I took Hoopa Confined out of the PC and placed it in my party. I used the Prison Bottle on Hoopa Confined, and it turned into Hoopa Unbound. When I placed Hoopa Unbound in the PC, it appeared to remain in its Unbound form. However, when I promptly moved Hoopa Unbound from the PC to my party, it immediately reverted to Hoopa Confined. (Of course, all of this was done in the span of several minutes, so there's no way the 3-day timer was a factor.)
This leads me to believe that Hoopa's forms change the same way they did in Generation VI. So how had anyone come to the conclusion that it worked differently? Maybe they were thrown off by the quirky interaction with Hoopa Unbound and the PC?
(On a side note, if memory serves, I experienced the same oddity with Furfrou and its various trims; the Furfrou maintained the trim it had if it was moved to the PC, but moving it from the PC to my party reverted Furfrou to its Natural Form. I don't remember if this sort of thing happened in Generation VI, it could just be a Generation VII quirk.)
&mdash;[[User:WhosHaddady|<span style="color:orange">'''Haddady'''</span>]] [[User talk:WhosHaddady|<small><span style="color:blue">~Straight Outta the Bag~</span></small>]] 15:24, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
:I tested it, but I just left it in the PC. Maybe something like "In Gen VII, when Hoopa Unbound is placed into the PC, it stays as the form it was in when it was put in, but if three days have passed, upon withdrawal from the PC, it changes to Hoopa Confined." --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 16:20, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
::The thing is, it looks like Hoopa Unbound will revert to Hoopa Confined upon retrieval no matter how much time has passed since the Prison Bottle was used (whether it be fewer or more than three days' time).
::Anyway, I think I figured it out. This should be how the change between forms really works, written as wiki-worthily as I could manage.
::"Hoopa Unbound will revert into Hoopa Confined if three days have passed after using the Prison Bottle without being deposited in the [[PC]], or if it is deposited in ([[Generation VI]]) or withdrawn from ([[Generation VII]]) the PC."
::&mdash;[[User:WhosHaddady|<span style="color:orange">'''Haddady'''</span>]] [[User talk:WhosHaddady|<small><span style="color:blue">~Straight Outta the Bag~</span></small>]] 21:02, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
:::I like it! You should add it. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#287a43">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#e85545">onkey</span>]] 21:34, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
== I think I've come across a basis/inspiration for Hoopa's concept and name ==
This is the concept of the "out-of-place artifact": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-place_artifact
"An out-of-place artifact (OOPArt) is an artifact of historical, archaeological, or paleontological interest found in an unusual context, which challenges conventional historical chronology by its presence in that context."
Hoopa's penchant for warping treasures to other places and the similarity of its name to the 'OOPArt' acronym I believe are not accidental.
EDIT: I see that someone else had the same theory earlier. I think this is worth at least mentioning in the trivia section where speculation is found as to how the name and some aspect of a pokemon's design were conceived, as we have no evidence that Hoopa's name has anything to do with 'hoopla', and that's equally or more speculative (which is the norm in these sections on each page).
Also EDIT: OOPArts are mentioned in X and Y, it's a pretty obscure acronym otherwise. http://i.imgur.com/siUO0nC.png
[[User:Chronomalous|Chronomalous]] ([[User talk:Chronomalous|talk]]) 04:29, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
== Questionable description? ==
I think these descriptive lines have questionable accuracy:
Hoopa Unbound is a large, bipedal Pokémon with six arms. It is mostly light blue with purple '''fur''' and hair.
Several tufts of purple '''fur''' surround its torso and a gold ring encircles a hole in the center of its chest.
Another large gold ring encircles its waist and there are small tufts of '''fur''' poking out from underneath it.
Is there official confirmation of it being "fur"? Someone needs to look into this to verify the accuracy. --[[User:CuteShaymin|CuteShaymin]] ([[User talk:CuteShaymin|talk]]) 21:39, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
I have decided to edit the description since no one ever replied to me and it doesn't '''really''' make sense to say Hoopa has "fur" when it's a humanoid Pokemon.