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 {{:User:TTEchidna/Archive}}
-{{:User:TTEchidna/Trades}}
+{| border=1 align="right" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;"
+|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
+! colspan="2" | Current trades
+|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
+! Offering
+! Wanted
+|-
+| {{TM|26|Earthquake}}
+| {{TM|71|Stone Edge}}
+|-
+| [[Electirizer]]s
+| [[Magmarizer]]s
+|-
+| [[Evolutionary stone]]s
+| [[Razor Claw]]s or [[Razor Fang]]s
+|-
+| [[DeepSeaScale]]s and [[DeepSeaTooth|DeepSeaTeeth]]
+| [[Protector]]s or [[Reaper Cloth]]s
+|-
+| [[King's Rock]]s and [[Metal Coat]]s
+| [[Up-Grade]]s or [[Dubious Disc]]s
+|-
+| align="center" colspan="2" | <small>Offers end September 30! Contact TTE on his talk page!</small>
+|}
 My trades are now a limited time offer! I may in fact offer them once again when Platinum comes out, however, I likely will not for some time.
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 ::Uh... what?  Give an example.  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 00:54, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
-:::[[Template:Movelist/header/1/1|This one]], for example. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:57, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
+:::{{redlink|Template:Movelist/header/1/1|This one}}, for example. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:57, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 ::::So, should that be categorized instead as <nowiki>[[Category:Movelist header templates]]</nowiki>?  Or is it fine the way it is?  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 00:58, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
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 :Indeed it does. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:28, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
-== [[Template:Spe]] ==
+== Template:Spe ==
-I just noticed it. Should we be phasing out [[Template:Special]] in its favor? It's been around since March, apparently, and nobody's done anything about it since, so... --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Argh</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">Blargh</font>))]]</sub> 07:33, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
+I just noticed it. Should we be phasing out Template:Special in its favor? It's been around since March, apparently, and nobody's done anything about it since, so... --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Argh</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">Blargh</font>))]]</sub> 07:33, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
-:It's basically just an alternative, like {{template|Giga Impact}} is to {{template|Hyper Beam}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:17, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
+:It's basically just an alternative, like <nowiki>{{Giga Impact}}</nowiki> is to {{template|Hyper Beam}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:17, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
 == {{color|{{arceus color}}|This may just be me but...}} ==
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 == Appendix:Pokémon XD walkthrough ==
-How can I merge [[Appendix:Pokémon XD walkthrough]] with [[Appendix:Pokémon XD walkthrough2]]? cause they are the same thing. Only [[Appendix:Pokémon XD walkthrough]] is super bad--[[User:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''☆Cool'''</span>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''ピカチ'''</span>]][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''ュウ!'''</span>]] 02:54, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
+How can I merge [[Appendix:Pokémon XD walkthrough]] with {{redlink|Appendix:Pokémon XD walkthrough2}}? cause they are the same thing. Only [[Appendix:Pokémon XD walkthrough]] is super bad--[[User:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''☆Cool'''</span>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''ピカチ'''</span>]][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''ュウ!'''</span>]] 02:54, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 :You can't. I will. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:55, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 ::I know and thxs.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''☆Cool'''</span>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''ピカチ'''</span>]][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''ュウ!'''</span>]] 02:58, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
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 ::::Sure, go for it. Anyway, it might be a bit of a problem for me to trade if I don't get the WFC adapter working in time. I did get the Johto starter though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:14, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 :::::Thanks! Good luck on the adapter. --[[User:RexRacer|'''<font color="#E7CE6B">Rex</font><font color="#42528C">Racer</font>''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''<font color="#FF5A00"><small>''-talk''</small></font>''']] 03:20, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
+::::::... So I guess you didn't get the adapter working.--[[User:RexRacer|'''<font color="#E7CE6B">Rex</font><font color="#42528C">Racer</font>''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''<font color="#FF5A00"><small>''-talk''</small></font>''']] 00:04, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
+:::::::Nope, didn't manage to. It's the network I'm on. I'll try and get it working soon, but I have no idea when I can. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:15, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
+::::::::Well, you know where to find me.--[[User:RexRacer|'''<font color="#E7CE6B">Rex</font><font color="#42528C">Racer</font>''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''<font color="#FF5A00"><small>''-talk''</small></font>''']] 00:18, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
+:::::::::On a slightly unrelated topic, [[User:Deadlymethane|Deadlymethane]] never got a talk page greeting. Poor guy...--[[User:RexRacer|'''<font color="#E7CE6B">Rex</font><font color="#42528C">Racer</font>''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''<font color="#FF5A00"><small>''-talk''</small></font>''']] 00:39, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 == Pokémon pages ==
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 On a separate note, I've also noticed a severe lack of MD-relevant info on Bulbapedia, and so I've been trying to expand it and make it better - I've been adding MD-specific ability info, for example.  I'd strongly suggest a separate MD infobox (or expanding the existing one) for moves, owing to the wildly different battle mechanics of MD (and the fact that the existing infobox isn't a good fit for {{m|Wide Slash}} or {{m|Vacuum-Cut}}).
-I'd also try to merge [[Status ailment]] and [[Status ailments in Mystery Dungeon]], and other similar articles.
+I'd also try to merge [[Status ailment]] and [[Status condition (Mystery Dungeon)|Status ailments in Mystery Dungeon]], and other similar articles.
 If you have any issues, please talk to me on my talk page.  As I said, simply deleting my work on [[IQ skill]] is a bit premature.
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 :::Now of course if someone wanted to get me PMD2 so that I could make a more educated decision... *waits for offers* '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:38, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
-By your logic, I don't see why each ability has their own article, then – I could have simply made [[Abilities in Mystery Dungeon]] with a big-ass table by the same token.  But at least this is a lot more constructive than some of the drivel other admins have put forth.
+By your logic, I don't see why each ability has their own article, then – I could have simply made "Abilities in Mystery Dungeon" with a big-ass table by the same token.  But at least this is a lot more constructive than some of the drivel other admins have put forth.
 * There are 65-odd IQ skills in MD1 and MD2.  I don't think a table in the style of what we have existing is appropriate - especially when we also put down that Sharpshooter does not stack with Scope Lens, but does stack with Super Luck, Patsy Band, and Type-Advantage Master.  Or that Super Mobile and Absolute Mobile (one's MD1 only, one's MD2 only) will replace wall tiles with floor tiles, but does not allow the ability to go diagonally through a corner.
 * MD2 has been out longer than Platinum, and has crap for real content.  MD1 has been out even longer, and it's only marginally better.  Age isn't exactly a valid argument.  Some have stated that just because it's not a game mechanic in the main game it's not worthy of separate pages.
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 ::And the new messages thing won't go away.  Also...where's my orginal talk page?  it keeps on redirecting itself to the archives page.--[[User:Tavisource/Custom Sprite Project|<font color="brown">☆</font>]][[User:Tavisource|<font color="teal">Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 06:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 :::Nevermind, i got it...sorry to bother you.--[[User:Tavisource/Custom Sprite Project|<font color="brown">☆</font>]][[User:Tavisource|<font color="teal">Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 06:49, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
+::::Okay. By the way, which sprites did you upload so I can see which ones that are going to be uploaded.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''☆Cool'''</span>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''ピカチ'''</span>]][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''ュウ!'''</span>]] 06:49, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 == Request ==
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 Do we have it?  I figured I'd ask you since Zhen's on hiatus and Evkl and Archaic rarely show up here.  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 22:59, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 :We don't. We could, but last time it was proposed Zhen didn't say yes so it kinda just stopped there. I'll remind him though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
+::Yeah, I think it would be very helpful in certain situations.  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 21:32, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
+:::We'll see. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:07, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
+:::Well, Zhen said it'd be a bad idea. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:06, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
+::::Surprising.  Do you know why?  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 17:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
+:::::No idea. Likely because it'd only cause problems. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:53, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
+== GIFs ==
+Do you despise all .gifs and want to annihilate them immediately, or do you just prefer animated .pngs? Because converting all GIFs on the pedia would be freakin' lots of work. I think you should allow both GIFs and PNGs with the latter being preferred. It's my proposition of compromise. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:22, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
+:Well of course I still think gifs are good, just not when we have animated pngs of the same thing. I worked hard to convert Dahlia into anipng. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:51, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
+== Old Man Swamp ==
+Is what I did OK?--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 17:56, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
+:If it doesn't get undone assume it is. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:57, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
+== Yep ==
+Something as important as [[Bulbapedia:Administrators|this page]] should be protected, right?--[[User:Tavisource/Custom Sprite Project|<font color="brown">☆</font>]][[User:Tavisource|<font color="teal">Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 21:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
+:Yes it should.  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 21:49, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
+== Message from the Editor ==
+Who exactly is permitted to edit this?  I mean, I know sysops are ''able'', since there's no "only bureaucrats" level of protection, but who is ''allowed'' to edit it?  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 21:51, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
+:Anyone. You feel the need, go for it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:40, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
+::Perhaps it should be changes to ''Message from the Editors'' then... <span style="background:#000000">[[User:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Por'''</span>]][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|<span style="color:#FF1493">'''ygo'''</span>]][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''n-Z'''</span>]]</span> 02:44, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
+:::Well, we basically let anyone make a blanket statement from all of us if it's important enough. MftE's not that special. If it needs said, say it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:06, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
+== Fakémon ==
+Are they permitted on here?  I'd think not, since they're no more legitimate than fanfiction, which is clearly not allowed.  And, in addition, ''pages on fanfiction characters are not allowed.''  Why should fake characters not from fanfictions be any different?  They're still fake and they're still useless.  So, essentially, are Fakémon allowed in the userspace?  Are they any more permissible than fanfiction characters or fanfictions themselves?  I hope the answer is no...  :P  BTW, sorry for screwing up those template categorizations.  I should've thought of that...  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 01:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
+:Well, taken that ''I'' created the policy on no Fanfiction, I should have a say in the extent of the rule. I think that they should stay, we can't limit the userspace completely, or else many users would be turned away. You know that some admins have the page, like TTE and Magnedeth. As long as they don't edit it more than three times a day, they shouldn't be a problem. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 02:09, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
+::i will say that i was the first to start the Fakemon thing in a sense of new evolutions. i dont like when people outright create Pokemon, as it isnt really their job. but, whos to say me inventing new evolutions is my job? however, i dont think its really hurting anything. Fanfics are huge and ultimately, there are more than enough internet sites to support them (in-fact, Bulba has one) and as MO said, i only edit my new evs or other pages maybe once a week. besides, if we rule out something like that, what will the userspace be good for? might as well not have it. ok, thats going far, as sandboxes and personal projects can sometimes amount to useful things. hell, i created [[User:MAGNEDETH/Useful|this page]] in the hopes that it can, in some way, be implemented into the mainspace. in retrospect, maybe not a good idea, but none-the-less. i just think that Fakemon have their place in the Poke-community, and letting users have '''one''' page isnt too much to ask. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 02:35, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
+:::There aren't places to support new evos like they can support fanfictions. They can be something unique to Bulbapedia. On a side note, I don't really like Sandboxes in Userspace. I think they are pointless when there is [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox]] out of userspace. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 02:38, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
+::::Nope, Fakémon are bad...it messes up the whole wikia...I don't like place with fake stuff...what's the point on putting Fake stuff here anyways?  Would it benefit Bulbapedia?  These things just confuses new users, for they do not know how to tell what's real and what's fake...like I did at another wiki.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|<font color="brown"><small>☆</small></font>]][[User:Tavisource|<font color="teal">Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 02:40, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
+:::::And the fact that it would be in the userspace and not easily accessed without intense searching? If someone can't read "User:" at the beginning of the page title, they are pretty much an idiot. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 02:43, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
+::::::It wasn't exactly clear that we were talking about the userspace. [http://pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Home Pokemon Encyclopedia] has fake Pokémon in the mainspace. They're more prominent than the real Pokémon, in fact. --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 03:56, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
+:::::::Pokémon Wiki is a riot.  It's probably the suckiest wiki I've ever seen.  Frankly, I could go over there and make the number of contributions I do now on here and become a sysop within three days.  In any case, TTE, we really need your input on this.  There's no reason for blatantly made up Pokémon in the userspace, period, whether or not they're from fanfics or just random Fakémon.  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 01:49, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
+::::::::That I agree with... however I'm reluctant to completely say "no" to ideas users might have. Separate pages for them, definitely a bad thing. But a list of ideas isn't too bad I'd say. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:53, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
+== Really odd problem ==
+I've noticed something really, really odd.  Check the [[:Category:Candidates for deletion|Candidates for deletion]].  Several userpages show up, none of which have the delete tag on them.  The only similarity they share is having one of {{u|Tesh}}'s "Nice Try" tags on them.  Understand?  So, by logical deduction, it must have something to do with those tags...  a mystery.  That I'm too tired to solve, so it's your problem now.  :D  I'll check back tomorrow.  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 02:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
+:'''WHAT THE HELL?!''' Now this page is shown as a Candidate for deletion too!  What's going on...?  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 02:13, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
+::That's because the category wasn't linked correctly.  A leading colon is needed to link to a category as plain text and not categorize the page.
+::Anyway, the problem appears to be fixed now.  Only one edit showed up in the recent changes en route to the category emptying.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
+:::Linking categories is better done with {{template|cat}} anyway. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:48, 30 September 2008 (UTC)