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{{Forme info|386{{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=S|1|5=D|2|4=A}}.png|psychic|psychic|[[Form differences#Deoxys|Deoxys's Formes]]|Deoxys in its {{#switch: {{#time: w}}|0|6=Speed|1|5=Defense|2|4=Attack|3=Normal}} Forme|the artwork shown in the infobox, the [[Effort values|EV yield]] shown on the page itself, the anime image shown, the base stats entry which is unhidden, the Pokéathlon stats entry which is unhidden, and the learnset entry which is unhidden|day}}
== Missingno. ==
== Missingno. ==


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== Moveset comparison table ==
== Moveset comparison table ==


Is it possible to get a comparison table up to show the differences between the movesets of each Forme?  Something like what's on the [[Legendary golems]] and other pages.  Just stick it below the other four moveset tables, permanently hidden so it's out of the way. ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 20:37, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Is it possible to get a comparison table up to show the differences between the movesets of each Forme?  Something like what's on the [[Legendary giants|Legendary golems]] and other pages.  Just stick it below the other four moveset tables, permanently hidden so it's out of the way. ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 20:37, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


I have added one at form differences--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 22:05, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
I have added one at form differences--[[User:Grrgrrgrr1000|Grrgrrgrr1000]] 22:05, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
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The mythical Pokèmon list includes Mew, Jirachi, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, and Diancie. Note that the image for mythical Pokèmon also shows Genesect.
The mythical Pokèmon list includes Mew, Jirachi, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, and Diancie. Note that the image for mythical Pokèmon also shows Genesect.


This is the first source I've personally seen that claims Deoxys to be either legendary or mythical. If it is the only official source on the matter, then I would recommend changing this article accordingly. However, because there may be another source that contradicts this, I will hold off on the edit. [[User:Pacack|<p style="text-shadow: 2px 1px 1px #FFE300">ᗧ•••ᗣ Pacack</p>]] 03:04, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
This is the first source I've personally seen that claims Deoxys to be either legendary or mythical. If it is the only official source on the matter, then I would recommend changing this article accordingly. However, because there may be another source that contradicts this, I will hold off on the edit. [[User:Pacack|<span style="text-shadow: 2px 1px 1px #FFE300">ᗧ•••ᗣ Pacack</span>]] 03:04, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
:It is explicitly called Mythical in ORAS. Refer to [[Talk:Legendary Pokémon#Deoxys]] (if you wade through to the end). That is interesting, though; it's the first thing to inarguably class Deoxys as Legendary, giving us a bona fide conflict now... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:28, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
:It is explicitly called Mythical in ORAS. Refer to [[Talk:Legendary Pokémon#Deoxys]] (if you wade through to the end). That is interesting, though; it's the first thing to inarguably class Deoxys as Legendary, giving us a bona fide conflict now... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:28, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
::I'll bring it up on the Legendary Pokémon page. If nothing else, it might deserve to be mentioned as a conflict. [[User:Pacack|<p style="text-shadow: 2px 1px 1px #FFE300">ᗧ•••ᗣ Pacack</p>]] 01:15, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
::I'll bring it up on the Legendary Pokémon page. If nothing else, it might deserve to be mentioned as a conflict. [[User:Pacack|<span style="text-shadow: 2px 1px 1px #FFE300">ᗧ•••ᗣ Pacack</span>]] 01:15, 20 November 2015 (UTC)


== That whole event thing. ==
== That whole event thing. ==
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:::::::: Available being the keyword. The Mew gets transferred to the core games without an event. That's why it should be reworded. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 19:57, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::::: Available being the keyword. The Mew gets transferred to the core games without an event. That's why it should be reworded. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 19:57, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::No. "Within" is the key word. I.e., without touching any other game. You start a core game, walk around in the game, and eventually in the game, you find a Mythical Pokemon, without having done anything in particular anywhere ''but'' in the same game. A reasonable person is almost ''entirely'' likely to read it like that. You're just too focused on your own point to see anything else clearly. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:12, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::::::No. "Within" is the key word. I.e., without touching any other game. You start a core game, walk around in the game, and eventually in the game, you find a Mythical Pokemon, without having done anything in particular anywhere ''but'' in the same game. A reasonable person is almost ''entirely'' likely to read it like that. You're just too focused on your own point to see anything else clearly. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:12, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
::::::::::Okay, fine. You got me there. When I have something on my mind, it's hard to focus on anything else. And I always miss stuff when reading, 2 of my weaknesses. *sighs* Sorry to waste your time. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 21:53, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
== A few things ==
1) Is the English transliteration for the Greek name correct? I always thought nu tau was "d" and not "it".
2) Since there's been official word saying Deoxys is Legendary and official word saying Deoxys is Mythical... why not both? The different reports don't have to be conflicting. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#98CC00">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#FFC37D">onkey</span>]] 17:17, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
:1) As far as I know, no, it's not. Though I might be wrong as I can't speak Greek.
:2) I don't see what point you're trying to make. When is it said that Deoxys is legendary? --[[User:Raltseye|<span style="color:#FF6464">R</span><span style="color:#11BB11">alts</span><span style="color:#6464FF">eye</span>]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 17:36, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
::1) Ok.
::2) It was on the Pokémon Center website in 2015. I can't find it anymore, but if you look in the Mythical Mania section now, every Mythical Pokémon from gens 1-5 is there... except Deoxys. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#98CC00">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#FFC37D">onkey</span>]] 17:42, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
== Mythical Status ==
Should Deoxys even be called a mythical Pokemon anymore? I mean, we don't need a mystery gift to get. We can get it in the post story of ORAS. Not really mythical anymore {{unsigned|Swonic}}
:Please refer to the discussion on Legendary Pokémon's talk page regarding Deoxys, it was explicitly called a Mythical Pokémon in ORAS.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F1912B">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F6B775">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#5599CA">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#90BDDC">ire</span>]] 12:43, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
== Trivia Point ==
"Using the first letter from the names of three of Deoxys's Formes, one can spell "DNA" (Defense, Normal, Attack). The letter "s" at the ending of Deoxys's name could stand for Speed." What point is this trying to make? This seems like a kind of silly piece of trivia. I believe it should be removed. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#00A1E9">cela</span><span style="color:#BF004F">donk</span>]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 01:23, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
:I think the trivia about DNA is interesting, given that Deoxys is based on DNA. The "s" point I can't make any sense of and think should be removed. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 01:35, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thanks. It reads a lot better now, imo. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#00A1E9">cela</span><span style="color:#BF004F">donk</span>]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 02:08, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
== Deoxys symbol  ==
I would like to add this to the origin section:
The ∴ symbol on Deoxys' back may be a {{wp|therefore sign}}, indicating a logical consequence in computing and mathematics. Possibly the symbol suggests a constellation like a similar grouping of asterisks, known in typography as a "group of stars" indicating a break in text. In Tamil language the symbol indicates an aspiration called a ''Visarga'', meaning "sending forth, discharge". Overall the symbol may suggest Deoxys' extraterrestrial origin, its ability to discharge lasers, and its employing computational language. [[User:Samuelmather|Samuelmather]] ([[User talk:Samuelmather|talk]]) 03:04, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
== Speed Form + Zap Cannon in Go? ==
Last night I corrected Defense Form's moves in Go; it had Zap Cannon listed instead of Thunderbolt. I *think* the same error applies to Speed form too, but I can't confirm it because I don't have that form to use an Elite TM on. Does it really have Zap Cannon? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 20:08, 7 August 2020 (UTC)