Talk:Deoxys (Pokémon)

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I'm not quite sure in Deoxys is supposed to be based of Missingno. or not. Even my Jirachi-is based-off-the-Beanstar theory manages to mak more sense then that.--Pokencyclopedia 13:33, 6 September 2005 (CDT)

Oh, puh-leeze. Deoxys is not based off Missingno. I should know, I'm the self-proclaimed expert on Deoxys. (the key word there being self-proclaimed.) -- PinkDeoxys 15:34, 8 January 2006 (CST)
Not that I added it to the article, but I do somewhat agree that it shares a few traits... the call, kind of... It's like Hypno sounds like Jynx when sped up, only Deoxys you have to play backwards and sped up to make it sound like Missingno.. And the southern island thing. But I dunno, mostly it's just fan speculation unless we go and ask the designers ourselves. Not that I'd imagine they forgot about Missingno. entirely. Tom Temprotran 06:30, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Deoxys is most likely not based on Missingno.. However, until it can be disproven, it is a valid theory.--Celebi96 02:18, 2 July 2009 (UTC)


How do you obtain Deoxys? Where is it? Also, how do you obtain Jirachi or Mew?

Deoxys requires the ticket(forgot the name). On an island. Jirachi is the Colo bonus disk. Mew requires the old sea chart.
The ticket is called the Aurora Ticket. It was given out at Pokémon Rocks America 2004. -- PinkDeoxys 15:30, 8 January 2006 (CST)

IMO, I think Deoxys is based on it's namesake, DNA. or else viruses, with are just coated proteins like DNA.

Deoxys is based off Deoxyriboneucleic (did I spell that right?) acid, or DNA. Its forms, Defense, Normal, and Attack, form the word DNA. The S in Speed is the last letter of its name. -- PinkDeoxys 15:30, 8 January 2006 (CST)

Transfer from Wikipedia

(Just like the exodus of german scientists to America during World War II!) Since the Wikipedia pokemon articles are in danger of being deleted, I made it my duty to add the info to the Bulbapedia articles from Wikipedia, starting with this one!!! MudkipNDS 19:25, 19 July 2007 (UTC)mkds

No worries, you don't have to be so frantic. The old pages are just being redirected; you'll always be able to find old versions of the page through the "history" tab at the top of the page.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 19:28, 19 July 2007 (UTC)


It says "no eggs" for the egg group yet specifies a number of steps to hatch. Huh?--SomeoneIKnew 20:06, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

While it is impossible for a Deoxys egg to exist, every species was given a number of steps to hatch; this information was found through hacking probably. In most cases, impossible eggs are given a ludicrous number of steps anyway.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 21:13, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
It's not impossible to have it, you just have to hack it. But yes, the hatching steps do come from game data. TTEchidna 04:15, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
The reason Deoxys has an egg step number is to prevent the game crash that happend in Gen II, when people would use cheats to get special eggs the games would crash when a legendary egg is made. This way players could hack legendary eggs without crashing their game. GuyNamedSean 18:29, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

D/P Back sprite

Is it just me or that back sprite looks a little... glitchy? Cause it isn't usual to have a brightly colored outline and then darker colors and shading, but meh. :P TinaTheKirlia 16:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Looks as if it was cropped out of a move picture, with a move that slightly changed the area around it. --DarkfireTaimatsu 18:29, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
It was taken from the original sprite rip which for some reason had this issue for all the Pokémon with form differences. I've fixed it now. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 18:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Possible Error?

My Deoxys is in Attack Form, hit Level 33, and learned Pursuit. The movelist says it should have learned Spikes (which I wanted). Is the movelist wrong? Inker 07:41, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

You sure it's in Attack form? The other three learn it at 33, so you might be mistaking the form. TTEchidna 08:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
That was indeed an error, and has now been corrected. For the record, this also applies to Taunt, which is Defense Deoxys' exclusive move, rather than Attack Deoxys' (it learns Knock Off along with the other two).
Whoever got the movelist wrong must have done so because he expected the three non-Normal forms to each have four exclusive moves. In truth, Attack Deoxys has two such moves (Superpower and Zap Cannon), Defense Deoxys - six (Spikes, Taunt, Iron Defense, Amnesia, Counter and Mirror Coat), and Speed Deoxys - four (Double Team, Swift, Agility and ExtremeSpeed). --Unown Lord 16:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I have noticed another error: the page says recruit area of Deoxys is Beau Plains, but it's in fact Enclosed Island! Can someone edit it? I can't find the right section.

Takaoldaria 19:14, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. Whoever upgraded it forgot to put the parameter in, and the template defaults to Beau Plains. Werdnae (talk) 19:46, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Shiny Artwork

I just uploaded the shiny artwork for Deoxys, but I'm stuck for placs to put it. TESHTALKFUN 21:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

..he made shiny Deoxys artwork? ..interesting. :0 Tina δ 21:54, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I've actually found all of the shiny artwork... TESHTALKFUN 21:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Ooo.. link please? Tina δ 21:57, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... It's basically just another Pokémon site. Oh and just to let you know it's in french. Pokebip TESHTALKFUN 22:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok... I told a white lie... No all of the Shiny Artwork, but some. XD TESHTALKFUN 22:08, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Lol. Seems like it's just recolored in Photoshop or something though, but it's cool to look at :0 Tina δ 22:18, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I like how they have the sprite image halfway through the animation. TESHTALKFUN 22:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Umm that Shiny art orginally came from Poke Beach. --'ケンジ'ガール 22:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
They're all just shooped. No need for shiny Sugimori art of all of these things. The normal art and shiny sprites suffice. TTEchidnaGSDS! 03:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Youtube Fake video

I've seen a youtube video that shows a trainer catching it in pokemon ruby [1] this video is obviously fake, cause it's a pokemon FireRed hack and the battle script is the same as Ho-oh, but the video ends just as the battle begins. This guy has tricked so many people to do what they see in the video.

should be added info on this? Hfc2x 16:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

There's no need to add information on every fan-made video posted, let alone this one in particular. There are tons of videos just like this on YouTube alone. // SzayelAporroGranz 19:21, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Deoxys' hand?

Why does Deoxys have a hand in his sprite, but in his artowrk he just has tentacles? Buddy Christ 03:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Ask Game Freak. うずまき 17:21, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
It's been assumed that Deoxys can willfully form its tentacles into a hand.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 04:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Pokémon Ranger confirms this. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 19:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Destiny Deoxys did way before Ranger, fyi.Reign 04:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


I'm not sure deoxys can legitimately get areoblast even from an event I'm pretty sure thats just a rumor User:ShinyMedicham

Well, first of all, where did you hear that it can get Aeroblast, and second, does that seem like a good source? GuyNamedSean 18:52, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Gamestop Event

Look at this should this be added under events?--CoolPikachu! 20:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC) 20080607_deoxys-event_usa-4.jpg

Yes, it's even on Bulbanews. It should get a mention here.BlueJirachiWishMaker 15:50, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I am gonna get myself a deoxys. WOOHOOEmperor's Cookies 15:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

You too?BlueJirachiWishMaker 15:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, its the week of my brothers birthdayEmperor's Cookies 15:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, so the Deoxys will be a birthday gift?BlueJirachiWishMaker 15:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, a very cheap one =]Emperor's Cookies 16:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I wonder if you'll still be able to obtain one even if you have a Deoxys transfered over from Gen III... ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 16:18, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Since, more or less it will be a Wonder Card, yes. tc26 16:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Someone put in the article that this Deoxys doen's obey its trainer. Maybe Gamestop goofed and forgot to set the flag required for their official Deoxys to obey. Or maybe that guy doesn't have the required badge... hfc2X 02:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I found out today that the National Pokedex is a requirement for this event, in order for the wireless transfer to commence. Kinda wish there were more accurate details on Bulbanews beforehand. -Tyler53841 04:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Uh, yeah, it's a national Pokémon...and, uh, no offense but did you just get the game or something? It's been out a good year by now...--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 04:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Don't be so rude! The guy is new at Pokémon, like most of us have been... and I also just got Pokémon Pearl, but I have played Pokémon for a long time now (8 years =D) hfc2X 06:30, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Dang, really? Well. All I can say is, Tyler, if you want that Deoxys there's still next weekend. ...that'll be one hell of a busy week.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 16:09, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I just got my Deoxys yesterday at Gamestop, so I will give you all the run-down on it's stats:

Name: Deoxys

Lv: 50

Pokédex No.: ???

Type: Psychic

OT: Gamestp

ID No.: 06218

Ball: Cherish

Item: NeverMeltIce

Naive nature.

Jun. 20, 2008

Pokémon Event

Apparantly had a fateful encounter at

Lv. 50

Somewhat vain.

Likes sweet food.

HP: 120/120

Attack: 155

Defense: 57

Sp. Atk: 163

Sp. Def: 61

Speed: 171

Ability: Pressure


Psycho Boost (PP 5/5)

Zap Cannon (PP 5/5)

Iron Defense (PP 15/15)

ExtremeSpeed (PP 5/5)

And all I needed was the Pokédex, so my second Pokémon (after Turtwig) was this Deoxys, thanks to the "Mystery from Space" Event. I picked it up at Sandgem Town WITHOUT the National Pokédex. Of course, it won't listen to me 19 times out of 20, but that's just because I only have one badge. Lord Thunderboom 18:50, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Forme spelling

Originally, all of Deoxys's different "formes" were thought to be spelled as "form." However, after Giratina's Origin Forme was revealed, fans went back to check Poké, and the Official Emerald Players guide (published in 2005) to find that "forme" has in fact always been the official spelling"
What exactly does the Player's Guide say? If it's just a random appearance of the word, then my suggestion is revert everything to "Form" until either word appears capitalized in a game, just like "Form" (and never "Forme") appears in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon and Pokémon Ranger. IMO, a Player's Guide or news coverings can't be trusted more than the released games themselves. To be fair, the Prima guides also spell it "forme", but still, it's just paper. Super Smash Bros. Brawl spells it "forme", too, but without a capital "F". --Johans 18:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

So let me get this right - Prima, a player's guide, the official Pokédex website AND Super Smash Bros. Brawl use "forme" and you still think that the official terminology is "form"? It clearly isn't. Cipher 18:11, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
My point was that Pokémon Ranger and Pokémon Mystery Dungeon spell them "Form", with a capital "F", in the text of the game. They are Pokémon games, more mainstream than any Super Smash Bros. game will ever be, and more digital than any guide will ever be. Bulbapedia is intended to be leaned a bit more toward in-game data from what I know. I remember Zhen Lin telling me to fix the "Electric Squirrel" words and place Pachirisu's species name as "EleSquirrel" for example.
Politoed666, I don't get why my change was reverted specifically here. The current table about Mystery Dungeon is using the in-game spelling, so I was doing the same, in the Pokémon Ranger side game data section, with the names of the Deoxys "formes" (if you wish, outside of the context) as they appear in Pokémon Ranger as mentioned by Solana and Spencer. --Johans 19:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
This is a page from Nintendo's Pokémon Emerald Players guide. [2]
As you can see from the image above, it is not an error, forme is the proper spelling. Trainer-c 18:53, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. I hope in the future everybody takes into account the dates in which different spellings appear, though (I suppose that's 2005). --Johans 19:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Woah, BIG image. Link amended. Cipher 20:13, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. I hope in the future everybody takes into account the dates in which different spellings appear, though (I suppose that's 2005).

Yup. The guide is from May of 2005 when Emerald was released. And further proof that forme is the proper spelling has shown up in the Deoxys event info at the Pokémon website today. Trainer-c 20:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I appreciate you ^_^. We should archive the link for future non-believers: --Johans 21:38, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Changing Problem

How Do we change the Move list?I've found that you can't put a small specific word(such as FR) to that specific forme moves(for the example word must be FRLG) also I checked many website found that Taunt is a Attack Forme only move.--(since English is not my mother language...there may be have grammer mistake) --chungkingpunノ14:24, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Uh oh, youre right =) hfc2X 02:40, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
That's easy. I set it up for Deoxys's formes. Instead of FR/LG/E/RS, just put the form of the Pokémon. Attack Deoxys learns a move, put Attack. TTEchidna 05:41, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks,should the move list like now??--chungkingpunノ12:07, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Art in the infobox

I know with Deoxys we do the "standard forme" thing... but we have Wormadam with all three of her coats, same with Burmy, and Shellos and Gastrodon in both West and East Sea variations. I know that's how the Sugimori art came, but why the heck not combine the images into one, then put it in the infobox? TTEchidna 17:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Well? TTEchidna 02:56, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm all for combining them, but wouldn't that make the images a tad small? ~$aturn¥oshi THE VOICES 15:09, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
No need to force the image to be small... It could be high-res and clickable. TTEchidna 23:37, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Seems to me that it's a good idea TTEchinda... If some one here knows how to do that. GuyNamedSean 18:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Why is it only Attack Forme now? It was fine before when it showed all the formes. Maybe we could do the same thing with this page that the Arceus page has; make it so that each time the page is refreshed it changes the displayed forme.--Celebi96 02:42, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Deoxys changes every day when the page is refreshed, Arceus every second, Giratina every hour and Shaymin is in its Sky Forme during the hours that it is allowed to be in the games. Also, I think that Unown will change every second like Arceus when we find more artwork (if any exists).--MisterE13 02:52, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
I don't think it's possible with Unown. There isn't any other artwork.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 07:35, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
I see, thank you. But it is still a little fuzzy, like someone mentioned. I don't know how to correct that, though. Does anyone have a larger image of the official artwork?--Celebi96 11:49, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Also, Rotom now changes with the days of the week: Saturday and Sunday are Normal, Monday is Heat, Tuesday is Wash, Wednsday is Frost, Thursday is Spin and Friday is Cut.--MisterE13 02:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Can it be fixed so the moveset shows the forme-exclusive moves? ht14 14:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Is there any possible way to fix the quality of the Defense artwork, or get a better version of it? —βetA ZerØ 07:48, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, didn't see the discussion about it below...>_> —βetA ZerØ 07:51, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

GenIII Backsprites

I always thought we could have the sprites cycle through the ones available in each game like the Arceus sprite does on it's page (the GenIII backsprites being a good example). We could even do this for all multi-formed Pokémon - unsigned comment from MisterE13 (talkcontribs)

For Arceus it is ok, 'cause it has many forms in the same game, but it's not the case for Deoxys (as in Gen III has different forms for different games), so all of them must be shown at the same time.
And another thing... if you want to start a new section on a Talk Page, click on the + at the top and sign your user name with ~~~~. hfc2X 18:50, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I forgot. I just meant instead of cramming all four backsprites into sections of the box, it could cycle the way the Arceus sprite near the top of the page does. I was also thinking that we could do that for the GenIV ones because you can get all 4. We could also do it with Castform, Cherrim, Arceus, Unown, Burmy, Wormadam, Giratina, Shaymin, Rotom... The sprites could even cycle whenever the moving (Emerald + GenIV) sprites animation finishes.MisterE13 19:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
By the way, I meant this one [[Image:Arceus Formes.gif]] MisterE13 19:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
That would be an epic pain. Plus, the only way to do that would be to change the nice, crisp pngs into crappy 256-color gifs, so everyone could see them. And that's a definite no. Anipngs would be for the animation of the sprites, not for showing all of them. The way we've got it is just fine, as far as I'm concerned, since you can click the images anyway to get to the fullsize versions. And we're not doing one of those stupid gifs for everyone. TTEchidna 19:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

"Forme" trivia

The trivia section currently states "fans went back to check Poké, and the Official Emerald Players guide (published in 2005) to find that "forme" has in fact always been the official spelling". However, this user says that the official FireRed/LeafGreen guide (published in 2004) uses "form", so apparently the "forme" spelling hasn't been "always official". abwayax (t/c) 00:32, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to go ahead and change that piece of trivia, since I see no objections. abwayax (t/c) 00:20, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


What is the point of the trivia stating, "In its Generation III Normal Forme sprite, its arm is on its right side, while in Generation IV the arm is on its left. Additionally, in Generation III, it only is shown with four fingers, while in Generation IV, it has five."? The animé (yes that is how you are supposed to spell it), and Sugomori art show that Normal Forme Deoxys can twist the arm-tentacles together to form a "humanoid" arm. Doesn't that meen that it should be able to have an arm on either side, and probably change the finger number? GuyNamedSean 23:58, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Then go and add that part to the trivia. hfc2X 01:40, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Horrible fuzzy pictures!

Why is the Deoxys picture used at the top of article always enlarged, so that it is horribly pixelated? I think it would be better just to make it smaller, which I would do if I knew how, but I'm not very familiar with Wiki code. Taromon777 20:19, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

I've been wondering that too, but I don't have any artwork to replace it with. Also, is there a reason that the Speed Forme sprite in the Gen III evolution line is the one from Gen IV? It looks out of place since the Normal, Attack, and Defense Forme sprites there are from Gen III.--Celebi96 15:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
It's because the only Speed GenIIIwe have moves, which would look even more out of place. Feel free to upload another.--MisterE13 15:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Okay, let me see if I can crop a sprite from somewhere. I'm not familiar with the code, though, so it may take me a few tries to make it work...--Celebi96 14:31, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Never mind, I found a sprite at We are allowed to use it, since it's a sprite, right? 386speed.png I don't know how to upload it, though.--Celebi96 14:55, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Color change

Has anyone else noticed that Deoxys's Gen III sprites are different colors than its Gen IV sprites? Its Gen III sprites are orange, while its Gen IV sprites are darker and more reddish. Should this be added to the trivia?--Celebi96 13:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)'s not important...because it's the same color. -Sketch 13:36, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Actually, it's darker in Gen IV, if you compare the back sprites. Also, the gem in its chest is a different color in Emerald than it is everywhere else; it's pink in Emerald, but purple in all other games and formes, even its Gen IV Speed Forme. And is it just me or is its gem bigger in its Defense Forme than in its other formes?--Celebi96 17:33, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Trivia error?

This might be me being stupid, but the trivia says "Deoxys was the first Pokémon to have its own unique battle music", but didn't Suicune in Pokémon Crystal have unique music when you battled it? I haven't played Pokémon Crystal in a while, so I might be wrong. ~~Takoto - サソデイ 18:19, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

I think Suicune's music was shared with Entei and Raikou, as before this, all Pokémon had the same wild encounter theme. Deoxys was the first to have its own music, without sharing. — THE TROM — 21:22, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I know it was shared in Gold and Silver, but I think it might have been different in Crystal. I'm not 100% sure though. ~~Takoto - サソデイ 15:11, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
No, the trio all definitely had the same music in Crystal. —βetA ZerØ 07:54, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Formes between games

Just asking, if I have a Speed forme of Deoxys in Emerald, and I trade it to FireRed, will it still have his Speed forme or will it change to FireRed's forme? If the answer is the second option, shouldn't this be in the article? --Dr. James 15:48, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

The second option is true. Turtwig A Contributions Talk 15:51, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Deoxys in the Anime

Looking back, that was a pretty bad edit. Long, rambly, save for grammar, spelling, and capitalization. Still, someone should do something, it is not right as it is. The purple Deoxys did not just appear and go to Larousse city, it was in the same meteor as the green Deoxys. Rayquaza did not simply appear out of nowhere either, it had a previous battle and current motive to track down and attack the Deoxys. Worst of all, it wasn't because Emerald had not come out yet that the Speed forme had not appeared in the movie, it was because it had not been created yet. It had come out in Emerald because by that time, they had made Speed forme Deoxys and needed a third generation game to contain that data. Can someone correct this while keeping it short?--QX Deoxys 00:22, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

New picture?

I believe that we should use a different picture for Deoxys. I don't mean to nitpick, but the picture we have up right now is a tad pixilated and shows only one Forme (Defense). I've found a clearer picture that shows all four of Deoxys' formes (Speed, Attack, and Normal, as well as Defense). deoxysdppokesafari_2.jpg So, what say you? Link 486 16:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

No, that looks pretty ugly tbh. Also, read the notice at the very top of this talk page. 梅子 16:46, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Forme Change

In heartgold and soulsilver. How do you do it? SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch 17:58, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Route 3. Just like the article says. There are rocks on Route 3, similar to the ones in Veilstone. ▫▪Ťïňắ 18:02, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Fake Groudon

Is it just me, or does Fake Groudon look like a Deoxys forme? He has the tentacles, the colours, but no one seems to see it but me...Megadog 06:28, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

There's not enough similarity to even think about mentioning it. When I commented on similarities between the Lake Trio and the GSDS prefixes on the GSDS talk page, I got shot down, hard. That had a bit more substance than this. Also, your attempt at actually writing it into trivia had multiple errors. Finally, sign when you post on talk pages. All it takes is four ~s. --ルレ 05:57, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

OK...sorry, i'm kinda new here, and only found this after I did that. I tried to go back and remove it, to find it was already gone. anyways, I didn't mean it was an actual forme, but you have to admit it does look like it could be. Also, whats GSDS? Megadog 06:28, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I went and removed it as soon as I saw it added... twice. My advice is simple: When in doubt, talk before adding.
GSDS was the fan name for HGSS before they were announced and got official names, apparently given by [[::User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] ([[::User talk:TTEchidna|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/TTEchidna|contribs]]). --ルレ 06:33, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't fully understand that connection, or in fact, at all. Also, I swear I only put it up once...The second time may have been a glitch when I tried to remove it. Also, I have only seen the two screenshots of fake groudon getting blasted by jirachi, so there may be the problem. EDIT: I've just watched the preview, and see how completely wrong I was. Megadog 06:41, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Moveset comparison table

Is it possible to get a comparison table up to show the differences between the movesets of each Forme? Something like what's on the Legendary golems and other pages. Just stick it below the other four moveset tables, permanently hidden so it's out of the way. ~ Serial Colour 20:37, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

I have added one at form differences--Grrgrrgrr1000 22:05, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Introduction uses "form"

Should the introductory paragraph to this article really use the word "form" when it's spelled "Forme" everywhere else in the article? For consistency's sake, I'd really recommend changing it.--Phantomjunkie 07:43, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Guardian Signs

Should the event moves for Deoxys from Guardian Signs (Meteor Mash, Detect) be added?JacobCrystal 19:41, 6 July 2010 (UTC)


Does anyone else think We should have his default form as the main image on his page? Cause I dont think we should have defense form up as it. Thats like putting heat rotom on rotoms page as main piccy.--Dermodio 20:09, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

There is special coding on the page that rotates the art for Deoxys based on time. You'll see this in other Pokémon pages as well that have different forms or formes. Jellotalk 20:12, 9 August 2010 (UTC)


Deoxys deeply resembles Eve from the game MOTHER. look- eve.gif - unsigned comment from Giegue (talkcontribs)


Somebody removed my trivia about deoxis's name being the first part of Deoxyribonucleic acid the chemical name of dna I know that someone has that the forms spell dna (with an s) so if mine was taken out then why wasn't that one?--Ash0011 21:54, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Because it's in the Name Origin section. --P S Yライダー 21:56, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Recalculation of Deoxys' Effort Value gains in Generation 3

In the Effort Values article, I noticed a bit of information which stated that the method in which Black and White Versions of Generation V recalculates EV gains at the end of each battle was equivalent to the way that Deoxys's EV gains were calculated in Generation III, yet I'm not seeing this piece of trivia on Deoxys' own page. Shouldn't it be added to the trivia of Deoxys, then, as (apparently) Deoxys was the only Pokémon to have such a unique method of EV calculation in Generation 3? Fenyx4 04:19, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


What would happen if one got to Birth Island before getting National Dex in FRLG (since Sevii Islands are available after 7 badges, and in these games National Dex is awarded upon capturing 60 Pokémon, not beating E4). And I mean via Aurora Ticket. Marked +-+-+ 08:19, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

New event Deoxys

Shouldn't someone edit the Event box to say that the new event Deoxys will be handed out fro May 8-31? PokefanR (talk) 02:33, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

No, not yet anyway, because there isn't an official title for the event. When there is an official title for the event it will be added, otherwise the section will require editing multiple times for one event. Lady Ariel 03:19, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Mistake in Trivia

"As of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, Deoxys is the first and currently only Event-exclusive Pokémon to become available in-game, effectively losing its Event-exclusive status."

Deoxys is the third event-exclusive Pokemon to lose its exclusivity. Zorua and Zoroark were event-exclusive in Black and White. Pokemega32 (talk) 07:56, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Eh, I think it means Event-exclusive legendaries since, although Zorua and Zoroark are event exclusive to BW they can still be bred, while legendaries can't(with the obvious exception of the Sea Guardian Duo)User:Animaltamer709:16, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Designer: Hironobu Yoshida or Ken Sugimori?

While I don't doubt Bulbapedia's information, as it's probably more accurate then the sources I'm about to state, both the Wikipedia article for Dexoys and the 2015 Guinness Book of World Records: Gamer's Edition state that Ken Sugimori designed the character and not Hironobu Yoshida. --evacino (talk) 01:41, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Neither this article nor Wikipedia cites a source for their claim, so I don't know which is correct. The GBoWR is not the most reliable book for non-world record info; in fact, they probably just got the info from Wikipedia. However, I also find it odd that you're asking this, since you were the one who added Deoxys's designer to this page in the first place; what was your source when you did so? --SnorlaxMonster 02:01, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Oh snap! You are totally right, I do remember adding that now you have reminded me. I just looked back through my documents and I have found my original log of evidence (with a new source I found by Googling just now which is a Japanese Twitter page): "A source that predates this is a Spanish(?) Pokémon wiki that was initially added 2nd Nov 2013. The very earliest I can seem to find in English though is from summer 2013, and it's this forum stating the Pokémon he created are: Wobbufett, Deoxys, Celebi, Dunsparce and Magmortar. Though the sources are stated to be from Bulbapedia originally, a link is not given. To me, the most likely reason is that it originates from Hironobu illustrating the Deoxys cards for the TCG. I went to Wikipedia to look back at the Deoxys page history and the source given does not actually state Ken designed it - or anyone for that matter, though it quotes 'Deoxys was created by Ken Sugimori with the aid of a development team' in the 2010 Wikipedia article itself. Since then, a source for this claim is needed on Wikipedia.
I decided to look into some Japanese websites and this Yahoo answer from 2012 states similarly to the English forum. I found this twitter post which, while posted this year, seems to contain a screenshot of a strategy guide containing Hironobu's creator profile, where he is credited for creating Deoxys. I read more into this guide and apparently it is from an official strategy book - I still need to find a full visual source though. Then I found this site. The person on this site wanted to find out who designed Darkrai, and they found what seems to be a lot of evidence. This, along with many other Japanese sites also having this information, seems relatively convincing to me and, if right, would mean he would have designed Darkrai as well. Still, it would seem strange I haven't found a source from the developers mouths - though that doesn't seem to happen often anyway." I'm really not sure how I forgot about most of this, I guess it's because I didn't think it would ever be worthwhile. Still, this is all the information I found so make of it what you will.
On an unrelated note, I just realized are User/Talk signatures are eerily similar. I copied the font type and colour from my school wiki blog when I first made my profile, but it seems so close to yours maybe they got the code originally from you. --evacino (talk) 03:51, 23 January 2015 (UTC)


Is Deoxys still Mythical, even though it is obtainable through normal gameplay? Flanl (talk) 23:09, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

This survey strongly implies Deoxys is not a Mythical Pokémon. The question says "Which of these are your favorite Mythical Pokémon? (Choose your top 3.)", and includes every Mythical Pokémon, but not Phione or Deoxys.--SnorlaxMonster 11:20, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

The name in other languages

Should I add Deoxys translated names in Russian, Czech, Greek, Hungarian and Serbian? Since its name has ben translated. --Raltseye (talk) 17:31, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Officially and not the same as in English? Eridanus (talk) 17:36, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
They're most likely from dubs of Destiny Deoxys, and they meet both of Eridanus's criteria. Feel free to add them, Raltseye. --Abcboy (talk) 17:51, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank you I have added them all now. --Raltseye (talk) 18:21, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

in greek language the word oxys means acid so the name Deoxys is the first to of the word deoxyribonucleic and the word oxys(Greek word for acid) if somebody can add it to the page of the deoxys at <<name's origin>> because i am not able to do it (User:Wertyuiooo)

Locked Page

Apologies if this is the wrong section to post this, but is Deoxys' page locked? For some reason I'm unable to edit it, though I'm able to edit other pages. Rainingblues (talk) 07:27, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Editing on this page is currently restricted to Autoconfirmed users and above due to an edit dispute. Since you've only joined recently, it may be a little bit before you can edit it. Once you've made more edits and some time has passed, you'll automatically be granted access to this page. --Pokemaster97 19:30, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Latching on to this post, how long is it to be autoconfirmed? Newcomer myself. ShadowBlizzard (talk) 19:18, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
The specific details (number of edits and length of time) are not shared with users (most likely to prevent frivolous edits to get to autoconfirmed quicker). Best you can do is just make other edits elsewhere and keep checking back to the autoconfirmed-only page. ChE clarinetist (talk) 22:40, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Name Origin

hello i want to add somethink at the name's origin if you see a little upper i have find out that it's name is based on the word deoxyribonucleic(de-) and the the Greek word oxys - unsigned comment from Wertyuiooo (talkcontribs)

Deoxys Listed as "Legendary" on Pokèmon Center Website

According to the Pokèmon Center website, Deoxys is a legendary Pokèmon, not a mythical one.


The legendary Pokèmon list includes Mewtwo, Lugia, Regirock, Latias, Latios, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Deoxys, Xerneas, and Yveltal.

The mythical Pokèmon list includes Mew, Jirachi, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Victini, and Diancie. Note that the image for mythical Pokèmon also shows Genesect.

This is the first source I've personally seen that claims Deoxys to be either legendary or mythical. If it is the only official source on the matter, then I would recommend changing this article accordingly. However, because there may be another source that contradicts this, I will hold off on the edit. ᗧ•••ᗣ Pacack 03:04, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

It is explicitly called Mythical in ORAS. Refer to Talk:Legendary Pokémon#Deoxys (if you wade through to the end). That is interesting, though; it's the first thing to inarguably class Deoxys as Legendary, giving us a bona fide conflict now... Tiddlywinks (talk) 03:28, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
I'll bring it up on the Legendary Pokémon page. If nothing else, it might deserve to be mentioned as a conflict. ᗧ•••ᗣ Pacack 01:15, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

That whole event thing.

What I'm trying to say is that, although Ranch isn't a core game, it basically makes it so that Mew no longer requires an event, technically making Deoxys the 2nd Pokemon, and not the 1st.

Okay, now someone may be thinking "Ranger Manaphy", but AFAIK, there's no way to reset that data to get a new one, because the game doesn't erase it. At least with Ranch you can delete the data from the Wii menu & start from scratch to get another. That's why I said "catchable." Unowninator (talk) 18:03, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

I went ahead and added a "games outside the core series" clause that should cover Ranch Mew, Ranger Manaphy Egg, Colosseum Bonus Disk Jirachi/Celebi, and any other ones I'm forgetting at the moment. I hope that solves both sides' issue with the trivium. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 18:14, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
The trivia is not talking about whether you can get a Mythical Pokemon without an event, period.
The trivia is saying, Deoxys is the only Mythical that is IN a CORE game, and that does not require an event to get it. Is Mew in a core game? Sure. Without an event? NO. Celebi? Sure. Without an event? NO. (Same for Darkrai, Arceus, Shaymin, Victini.) Jirachi/Manaphy? Not IN a core game. Tiddlywinks (talk) 18:24, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Ranch isn't an event. Therefore, Mew IS obtainable without an event. Unowninator (talk) 19:29, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
And that's NOT what the trivia is about. ...Please, can you tell me: where is Haley's Mew present in a core game? (Remember: CORE game.) Tiddlywinks (talk) 19:37, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
... When you transfer it. Yes, I get that you can't get it without Ranch, but an event and spin-off games are 2 completely different things. Unowninator (talk) 19:44, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
And that's not IN a core game. Which is what the trivia point is about. Hayley's Mew is not in a core game; it has NO bearing on this trivia. Tiddlywinks (talk) 19:50, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Deoxys is the only Mythical Pokémon to become available within a core series game without an event. 
Available being the keyword. The Mew gets transferred to the core games without an event. That's why it should be reworded. Unowninator (talk) 19:57, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
No. "Within" is the key word. I.e., without touching any other game. You start a core game, walk around in the game, and eventually in the game, you find a Mythical Pokemon, without having done anything in particular anywhere but in the same game. A reasonable person is almost entirely likely to read it like that. You're just too focused on your own point to see anything else clearly. Tiddlywinks (talk) 20:12, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Okay, fine. You got me there. When I have something on my mind, it's hard to focus on anything else. And I always miss stuff when reading, 2 of my weaknesses. *sighs* Sorry to waste your time. Unowninator (talk) 21:53, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

A few things

1) Is the English transliteration for the Greek name correct? I always thought nu tau was "d" and not "it".

2) Since there's been official word saying Deoxys is Legendary and official word saying Deoxys is Mythical... why not both? The different reports don't have to be conflicting. --Celadonkey 17:17, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

1) As far as I know, no, it's not. Though I might be wrong as I can't speak Greek.
2) I don't see what point you're trying to make. When is it said that Deoxys is legendary? --Raltseye prata med mej 17:36, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
1) Ok.
2) It was on the Pokémon Center website in 2015. I can't find it anymore, but if you look in the Mythical Mania section now, every Mythical Pokémon from gens 1-5 is there... except Deoxys. --Celadonkey 17:42, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Mythical Status

Should Deoxys even be called a mythical Pokemon anymore? I mean, we don't need a mystery gift to get. We can get it in the post story of ORAS. Not really mythical anymore - unsigned comment from Swonic (talkcontribs)

Please refer to the discussion on Legendary Pokémon's talk page regarding Deoxys, it was explicitly called a Mythical Pokémon in ORAS.--ForceFire 12:43, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Trivia Point

"Using the first letter from the names of three of Deoxys's Formes, one can spell "DNA" (Defense, Normal, Attack). The letter "s" at the ending of Deoxys's name could stand for Speed." What point is this trying to make? This seems like a kind of silly piece of trivia. I believe it should be removed. --celadonk (talk) 01:23, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

I think the trivia about DNA is interesting, given that Deoxys is based on DNA. The "s" point I can't make any sense of and think should be removed. --SnorlaxMonster 01:35, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. It reads a lot better now, imo. --celadonk (talk) 02:08, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Deoxys symbol

I would like to add this to the origin section:

The ∴ symbol on Deoxys' back may be a therefore sign, indicating a logical consequence in computing and mathematics. Possibly the symbol suggests a constellation like a similar grouping of asterisks, known in typography as a "group of stars" indicating a break in text. In Tamil language the symbol indicates an aspiration called a Visarga, meaning "sending forth, discharge". Overall the symbol may suggest Deoxys' extraterrestrial origin, its ability to discharge lasers, and its employing computational language. Samuelmather (talk) 03:04, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Speed Form + Zap Cannon in Go?

Last night I corrected Defense Form's moves in Go; it had Zap Cannon listed instead of Thunderbolt. I *think* the same error applies to Speed form too, but I can't confirm it because I don't have that form to use an Elite TM on. Does it really have Zap Cannon? ¿¡Unowninator?! (talk) 20:08, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

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