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== Card images ==
== Card images ==


I added images to the following, and I wanted to make sure you took them off the list:
I added images to the following, and I wanted to make sure you took them off the list:
*{{TCG ID|GB 1|Dragonite|Promo}}
*{{TCG ID|Pokémon Card GB|Dragonite|promo}}
*{{TCG ID|Nintendo 64|Hungry Snorlax|promo}}
*{{TCG ID|Nintendo 64|Hungry Snorlax|promo}}
*{{TCG ID|Wizards Promo|Cool Porygon|15}}
*{{TCG ID|Wizards Promo|Cool Porygon|15}}
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== Two Things (or maybe considered more) ==
== Two Things (or maybe considered more) ==


Isn't the Psychic Arbok in Great Encounters normal, that's why I had it describing it at the top. And I have encountered the {{TCG|Lucario Gift Set}}, {{TCG|Mew Gift Set}}, {{TCG|Latias & Latios Gift Set}}, and the {{TCG|Deoxys vs Rayquaza Gift Set}}. which say that they are reprints of some cards; Do you know which ones? ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 04:00, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Isn't the Psychic Arbok in Great Encounters normal, that's why I had it describing it at the top. And I have encountered the Lucario Gift Set, Mew Gift Set, Latias & Latios Gift Set, and the Deoxys vs Rayquaza Gift Set. which say that they are reprints of some cards; Do you know which ones? ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 04:00, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


== James ==
== James ==
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:::::If you can give me an example, I can see what I can do.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 15:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::If you can give me an example, I can see what I can do.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 15:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::It might be a little small but: [[Image:Samiyamantyke137.jpg]] This is Samiya's Mantyke from {{TCG|"PCG-P" Promotional cards}}. If you can find out what the attacks mean, we can find out what most should say underneath. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 15:58, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::It might be a little small but: This is Samiya's Mantyke from {{TCG|"PCG-P" Promotional cards}}. If you can find out what the attacks mean, we can find out what most should say underneath. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 15:58, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


The second attack is {{m|Splash}}.  I'll see if I can deduce the first.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 17:23, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
The second attack is {{m|Splash}}.  I'll see if I can deduce the first.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 17:23, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
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:::Do you have images that you can show me?  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Do you have images that you can show me?  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:ExpeditionPonyta126.jpg|180px]][[Image:Infopackponyta.jpg|180px]]
 


:::Do you have the same for Pryce's Lapras?  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Do you have the same for Pryce's Lapras?  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:Infolapras.jpg|180px]][[Image:Prycelaprasvs.jpg|180px]]
 


:::OK.  That's good enough for me.  The Ponyta redirect is already created.  As for the Pryce's Lapras, that redirect can come to be once the VS version's article is created.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:::OK.  That's good enough for me.  The Ponyta redirect is already created.  As for the Pryce's Lapras, that redirect can come to be once the VS version's article is created.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
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== Dragon Trio ==
== Dragon Trio ==


Please add the "Similar Movesets" section to the [[Dragon Trio]] article.<span style="font-family:Cataneo BT">~[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">Pokemaniac102</span>]]</span> 15:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Please add the "Similar Movesets" section to the [[Creation trio|Dragon Trio]] article.<span style="font-family:Cataneo BT">~[[User:Pokemaniac102|<span style="color:#000000;">Pokemaniac102</span>]]</span> 15:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


== 11th Movie Commemoration Set ==
== 11th Movie Commemoration Set ==
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== Question about disambiguation ==
== Question about disambiguation ==


Now that most of the cards in the Japanese promos (i.e. PLAY, DP-P, Deoxys vs Rayquaza Gift Set, etc...) are redirects to the english version, should we still list those promos on the card pages such as {{c|Charmander}}? I think that we should (in order to be complete) but I want to get someone else's opinion first. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 20:42, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Now that most of the cards in the Japanese promos (i.e. PLAY, DP-P, Deoxys vs Rayquaza Gift Set, etc...) are redirects to the english version, should we still list those promos on the card pages such as {{TCG|Charmander}}? I think that we should (in order to be complete) but I want to get someone else's opinion first. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 20:42, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


:I'd say that only those collections with no unique material  should be omitted.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:48, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:I'd say that only those collections with no unique material  should be omitted.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:48, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
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== You want Confirmation? ==
== You want Confirmation? ==


[[Image:GiratinaDPP109.gif]] <br>
<br>
or you could go here for a bigger image: [http://light.cvgrenier.com/tcg/japanese/VS/11/010-giratina_reality-world.jpg]  
or you could go here for a bigger image: [http://light.cvgrenier.com/tcg/japanese/VS/11/010-giratina_reality-world.jpg]  
:Or even here for a list up to 122: [http://www.pokemon-card.com/card/promo_08.html] ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 16:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:Or even here for a list up to 122: [http://www.pokemon-card.com/card/promo_08.html] ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 16:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
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:Since everything's been cleaned up, I've lifted the block.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:Since everything's been cleaned up, I've lifted the block.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:25, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
::Thank you...and sorry for doing that.  Anyways, I didn't know I could create customized ones.  I should've asked before flooding it.  Thanks for cleaning up the mess.  Want an egg? [[Image:Ash's Larvitar Egg.png]]  Sorry again.
::Thank you...and sorry for doing that.  Anyways, I didn't know I could create customized ones.  I should've asked before flooding it.  Thanks for cleaning up the mess.  Want an egg?   Sorry again.


== User Subpages ==
== User Subpages ==
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I didn't use it because I didn't know how... I'm sorry if I made some trouble... [[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 18:35, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
I didn't use it because I didn't know how... I'm sorry if I made some trouble... [[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 18:35, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


== {{TCG ID|GB|Mew|1}} ==
== {{TCG ID|Promotional Card|Mew|PXX}} ==


How are we going to get an image of this card if it was exclusive to the Game Boy's Trading Card Game? ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 23:03, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
How are we going to get an image of this card if it was exclusive to the Game Boy's Trading Card Game? ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 23:03, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
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:::Look at the card again. Calculating the average damage requires an infinite convergent sum, as well as enough probability knowledge to know how to deal with an infinite number of cases. The vast majority of high school graduates can't do either of those. I might be able to do it, and you might be able to do it, but we're not exactly representative of the target audience of Pokémon, are we?  
:::Look at the card again. Calculating the average damage requires an infinite convergent sum, as well as enough probability knowledge to know how to deal with an infinite number of cases. The vast majority of high school graduates can't do either of those. I might be able to do it, and you might be able to do it, but we're not exactly representative of the target audience of Pokémon, are we?  
:::I consider calculating the homology of a product space given the homologies of the original spaces "pretty easy", but that doesn't make it basic. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 03:01, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
:::I consider calculating the homology of a product space given the homologies of the original spaces "pretty easy", but that doesn't make it basic. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 03:01, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
::::You're missing the point.  We do not include attack calculations in the articles unless they have a major impact on the game, such as a format ban.  The only reason [[Sneasel (Neo Genesis 25)]] has its Beat Up damage calculation listed is because that damage calculation was part of what led to it being banned in the {{TCG|Modified Format}} when it first began, and even then that damage calculation is of maximum, not average.
::::Simply put, average damages are not notable in card articles.  Never has been, never will be.  If they were to have been, we'd have to include them on all cards with damaging attacks.  Please don't include that section on the Aura's Lucario card or any other again, or else there may be consequences.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:You left two messages? How confusing. Oh well, it's basically the same thing twice, so the response I gave before still applies. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 09:00, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


== User:Postito ==
== User:Postito ==
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:Name the images.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:49, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:Name the images.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:49, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


The ones on top are mine:[[Image:EP263.jpg|thumb|left|]][[Image:EP264.jpg|thumb|right|]]
The ones on top are mine:


:The bottom ones are the ones up:[[Image:Address Unown!.jpg|thumb|left]] [[Image:Mother of All Battles!.jpg|thumb|right|]]
:The bottom ones are the ones up:
--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 22:56, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 22:56, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


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:::Aye, I'll be sure to. As I say, I'm on the look out for anything related to Stormfront, so I'll let you know if I find anything. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 20:19, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Aye, I'll be sure to. As I say, I'm on the look out for anything related to Stormfront, so I'll let you know if I find anything. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 20:19, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


::::I would suspect there will be promo cards in the next set. {{TCG|POP Series 8}} (coming out soon) will not have 30 cards (which is roughly the amount of Japanese only cards currently in the {{TCG|"DP-P" Promotional cards}}. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 21:32, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::::I would suspect there will be promo cards in the next set. {{TCG|POP Series 8}} (coming out soon) will not have 30 cards (which is roughly the amount of Japanese only cards currently in the {{TCG|DP-P Promotional cards}}. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 21:32, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


== Just wondering ==
== Just wondering ==
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::That works, since I'm working my way through them starting at number one. Thanks for the answer. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 01:37, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::That works, since I'm working my way through them starting at number one. Thanks for the answer. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 01:37, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


==No [[Lick (move)|Liek]] {{p2|Mudkip|Mudkipz}}==
==No [[Lick (move)|Liek]] {{p|Mudkip|Mudkipz}}==
Dragonair131 says:  
Dragonair131 says:  
whats with all the "this user does not liek mudkipz" shizzle?
whats with all the "this user does not liek mudkipz" shizzle?
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Why, exactly, are you doing that? The moves are misspelled; that's why I went through and corrected them all in the first place. The CamelCse is the appropriate spelling. Why are you removing it? --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Argh</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">Blargh</font>))]]</sub> 07:17, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Why, exactly, are you doing that? The moves are misspelled; that's why I went through and corrected them all in the first place. The CamelCse is the appropriate spelling. Why are you removing it? --[[User:Martonimos|<font color="#008000">Martonimos</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:Martonimos|((<font color="#00FF00">Argh</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">Blargh</font>))]]</sub> 07:17, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


:No, the stuff such as "SolarBeam" and "ThunderPunch" are wrong.  The first Mystery Dungeon was the first game to case-sensitize names, and they did everything correctly.  Stuff such as "FlameThrower", "BubbleBeam", "PickUp", and "BlackGlasses" are wrong, and anything that says that is in error; they are, always have been, and always will be correctly {{m|Flamethrower}}, {{m|Bubblebeam}}, {{a|Pickup}}, and [[Blackglasses]].
:No, the stuff such as "SolarBeam" and "ThunderPunch" are wrong.  The first Mystery Dungeon was the first game to case-sensitize names, and they did everything correctly.  Stuff such as "FlameThrower", "BubbleBeam", "PickUp", and "BlackGlasses" are wrong, and anything that says that is in error; they are, always have been, and always will be correctly {{m|Flamethrower}}, {{m|BubbleBeam|Bubblebeam}}, {{a|Pickup}}, and [[Blackglasses]].


:Furthermore, why did you change the correct "Mr. Mime" back to the incorrect "Mr.Mime"?  That was the primary purpose of my edits...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:Furthermore, why did you change the correct "Mr. Mime" back to the incorrect "Mr.Mime"?  That was the primary purpose of my edits...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:29, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
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== Preparation for tomorrow ==
== Preparation for tomorrow ==


Since {{TCG|POP Series 8}} is coming out tomorrow, there will be a couple of things we need to do. First off, it is highly likely that these cards will be coming from the {{TCG|"DP-P" Promotional cards}}.  I am sending this message to anyone who would probably be the ones making the cards. Make sure that the articles aren't already made under the DP-P promo name, we can just move these and revise and it will be a lot less work. Also, the disambig's. will need to be changed, and redirects will need to be created. Just saying this so that everyone knows what is going on and that the couple of pages might already be named under something else. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 22:56, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Since {{TCG|POP Series 8}} is coming out tomorrow, there will be a couple of things we need to do. First off, it is highly likely that these cards will be coming from the {{TCG|DP-P Promotional cards}}.  I am sending this message to anyone who would probably be the ones making the cards. Make sure that the articles aren't already made under the DP-P promo name, we can just move these and revise and it will be a lot less work. Also, the disambig's. will need to be changed, and redirects will need to be created. Just saying this so that everyone knows what is going on and that the couple of pages might already be named under something else. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 22:56, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


== Question ==
== Question ==
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:I set timers.  I decided to set timers as a just-in-case measure.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:58, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
:I set timers.  I decided to set timers as a just-in-case measure.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:58, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
== Today's episodes ==
Any info yet?--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 20:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, I've got some very big info for you on today's episode(s).  There aren't any today.  Next week is the [[DP094]]/[[DP095]] double bill, which also serves as the last stands for [[Together]] and [[Message of the Wind]].  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:03, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I thought they were today, DARN IT!--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 20:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
== A Gallery ==
I added a pic of May's Glaceon in its egg, and now I think it's time for a gallery, can u do it please--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 19:34, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
== Splitting ==
Is there any specific procedure for splitting an article (I'm thinking of splitting the [[Pokémon Ranger (trainer class)]] page into a page about the class and a page about the Ranger characters)? It doesn't seem like there would be any way to preserve page history in the process, but if there is, I'd better know about it before I begin.
Also, do you think it's appropriate to make the split I mentioned? --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 22:35, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
:I'd usually just create the new article, then clear out the necessary information from the original article.
:Of course, that's just my take.  That may not be the proper split method; I'd ask {{u|TTEchidna}} for his take on the process before going ahead.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:37, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
== Sinnoh Dex ==
Can u move it to Sinnoh Pokédex?--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 22:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
:I was in the process of doing just that when you dropped the line...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:44, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
== You edited my page ==
Did you have to do that? You screwed a couple of things up. Do you mind if I undo it?--[[User:RexRacer|Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer]] 03:19, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:What exactly did I do that you claim that I "screwed up"?  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:58, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
::Well, you made it so that it says that I have completed the National PokéDex, when I haven't. You also put stars next to my favorite Pokémon, and I do know that that is the template, but I tweaked it a bit. I don't see why the edit was needed. --[[User:RexRacer|Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer]] 20:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:::The edit was needed because you had copied-and-pasted tag code exactly to the point where your userpage was categorized as a usertag.  That's why I made the edit in the first place.
:::If you had been a bit more careful in the first place, then maybe this might not have happened.  Try to be more careful in the future.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:59, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:::The templates are in categories such as [[:Category:Favorite tags]], etc. When you copy-paste the entire coding instead of just the tag, you're adding your userpage to these categories by mistake as well. If you want to customize the tag for your userpage, that's fine, but make sure to remove the categories and "template only" coding from it first. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako|<font color="#237d00"> '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>'''</font>]]<small>[[user talk:Jioruji Derako|<font color="#237d00">''.cнаt'''''^'''</font>]]</small> 21:01, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
== Question (Pre-release template) ==
When the card information comes from the official TCG website, which is more appropriate to link? Go-Pokémon.com or [http://www.go-pokemon.com Go-Pokémon.com]? Surely the latter? It's not notable enough for its own page here. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 20:07, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:I have no problems with it being tagged either way.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:09, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:But maybe change the link's name you put in. Most other websites have their pages on here as "Website" and not "Website.com". So maybe just link to "Go-Pokémon"? ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 21:14, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
::And why wouldn't the official Japanese card website not be notable? If anything, it is more notable than the English websites, it has more information that we use and it is one of the official websites, there aren't very many of those. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 21:16, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Although I fail to see how it is "more notable" than the English-language website, I definitely think it should be considered a viable source.  It is official, after all.  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 21:18, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm not saying it's not a viable source. Of course it is, I use it all the time. My point was that the official sites don't need wiki pages and that it was best to simply link to them. That's all... [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 12:46, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
== [[Talk:Hippopotas (anime)]] ==
Why did you revert my edit? User talk page comments can't be removed without asking the commenter, so why should it be any different for regular talk page comments? --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 01:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:If a comment is more fit for the forums, then sysops or other trusted users take out the comments that belong on the forums.  That's the reason the comment in question (basically someone wishing Ash was going to soon capture the Hippopotas) was removed in the first place, although the summary didn't state it.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:40, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
== Deleting Template:IQ ==
Please consult with me before deleting this page.  I was in the middle of working on an expansion of the IQ skills sections of Bulbapedia, which I'm starting to get the impression that it is unwelcome.  [[User:KelvSYC|KelvSYC]] 01:52, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:You've got three sysops saying that pages for individual IQ skills are not notable.  Information on all IQ skills can and will go on one page.  Odds are that, if you fight three sysops, you'll lose.  Yes, we could use expansion on IQ skill information within reasonable means--such means are expanding the existing lists or adding a new list on [[IQ]], NOT giving each skill an individual page.  The template was deleted because its only purpose was to link to pages for each individual IQ skill, pages that would quickly be deleted for being non-notable.
:I hope you understand what we sysops are doing.  While we'd support the expansion of the lists of IQ skills, what you're insisting on doing is going too far.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:56, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't think any of you have played MD2.  '''''Not all Pokémon learn all IQ skills''''' in that game.  While you could have gotten away with it in the first game by putting everything on one page, you can't as easily in MD2.  Furthermore, you and these two other sysops are posing as a disincentive to make a massive addition such as this.  Thus, I assert that you and the other two sysops are acting in bad faith, and are actively preventing me from making any significant additions.  If that is the case, I can always pack up and contribute to some other Pokémon wiki that will appreciate these efforts. [[User:KelvSYC|KelvSYC]] 02:03, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:Well, then maybe you should have discussed your ideas with the sysops BEFORE you made any reversions and got into this edit war.  Trying to force sysops to agree with you is not the way things get done around here, and such force will probably make such sysops less likely to agree with you.  Honestly, if something I did was reverted for being a bad idea, I'd consult with people before re-implementing that idea, in case it turns out it really was a bad idea.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:08, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Oh, so Bulbapedia is not, in fact, a wiki, and that every edit that I make have to go through some "approval process" before making it into these hallowed pages.  That's a load of bunk.  Again, I contend all three of you are acting in bad faith.  Honestly, I probably won't contribute here until I get a full written apology, and believe me there are still lots of faults with how it is now.  That's how much of a disincentive you are making it to edit here.  [[User:KelvSYC|KelvSYC]] 02:16, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:Bulbapedia =/= Wikipedia -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 02:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:: Yeah, it's pretty evident that it isn't, judging from how the sysops handle things here.  Apparently, sysops can make arbitrary deletions without warning here, for one.  At least on Wikipedia they give you the courtesy of civil discussion first. [[User:KelvSYC|KelvSYC]] 02:35, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:::I lol'd. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:45, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:::That's why it's discussed BEFORE posting. (sorry, Shiningpikablue232!) [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 02:37, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Wikipedia is based on true, hard facts, with citations and all that jive. we derive our information straight from the games. if its wrong, its wrong. now, we do allow some room for argument, but, if something isnt wrong but maybe not overly notable, it get relegated to sysop review, and put in its place. as i said, THIS IS '''NOT''' WIKIPEDIA. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 02:43, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Common wikiquette (and just publishing anything, for that matter) states that peer discussion comes after posting.  The admins did not do so - they just simply deleted it, and made it as if I had never made these changes.  That's what they call poor ethics in most circles.  But it's clear that Bulbapedia is not a wiki in the true sense.  Users don't have the freedom to edit without a sysop watching over their shoulder - if anything this is telling me that Bulbapedia is no more than a Serebii or Smogon clone - except with loyalty being rewarded with the actual ability to make constructive edits.  The disincentive to make a useful contribution here is in conflict with Bulbapedia's mission statement.  At least on Wikipedia ordinary users tell you after the changes why it wasn't a good idea, and you can engage in useful debate – the onus is on the editor to revert the changes in good faith.  Here, you don't have that luxury - it's just "X is not notable enough, don't argue with us" and "Heil Sysop".  Sysops will actively push you to pull the trigger and make some stupid statement before they even afford the ability of civil discussion.  That's promoting community spirit for you. [[User:KelvSYC|KelvSYC]] 03:04, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:One thing, do this when starting a new comment (:). Moving on. As stated many, MANY, MANY times before, this ISN'T WIKI. We already established that. And besides, we're debating now, aren't we? [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 03:10, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
::This is "debating after all hell has broken loose".  That's not civil discussion - you need to debate '''before''' all hell breaks loose.  Bulbapedia doesn't have "debate".  All it has is a trigger-happy deletionist sysop clique and an editorial process that's in no way transparent or accountable.  [[User:KelvSYC|KelvSYC]] 03:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:::That's because you chose to have all hell break loose first and debate afterward.  You'd be surprised how differently-toned a conversation would look if one would have chosen to debate first and then let all hell break loose if it came to that.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:24, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
::::So, did you debate before letting hell break loose and deleting all my hard work?  I didn't think so.  You should practice what you preach. [[User:KelvSYC|KelvSYC]] 04:08, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::How could he know all hell would break loose when you didn't approach him about this project until after the fact? --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 04:29, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::I don't know... how about '''asking first before pulling the trigger'''? [[User:KelvSYC|KelvSYC]] 04:41, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::so on that basis, if a vandal attacks, i should ask him if its ok to revert his edits? "excuse me Ph34r, but, can you cite resources why you changed Bulbasaur's name to "Dumbsaur"?" -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">MAG</span>]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|<span style="color:#696969;">NE</span>]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|<span style="color:#000033;">DETH</span>]]''' 04:52, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::::It seems to me that what he's asking is for you to ''know in advance'' what Ph34r will do, ''then'' ask him to cite his sources for what he's about to vandalize. --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 05:09, 24 September 2008 (UTC)::::
::::::::And vandalism is the same how?  Besides, vandals are at least warned with a short blurb saying something relating to the sandbox.  I made an honest edit and all I got was a vague one-liner.  [[User:KelvSYC|KelvSYC]] 05:57, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
==Delete==
can you delete [[User:Mooites/Anime Team Predictions]] for me? --'''[[User:Mooites|Mooites]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Mooites|Talk to me, baby!]]</sup> 02:52, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:{{u|Kenji-girl}} got to it before you made the request.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
== Not to be rude ==
This is now Section 122... just trying to put an idea in your head. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 01:55, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:Not until it comes up on my schedule.  It'll be soon, though, trust me...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:55, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
== Re: Threat ==
''It's been long since decided that a calculation like that on the Bone Rush attack is not notable for the article.''
:Then it would be a good idea to show me where that was decided, no?
''Do we state that Geodude from Fossil's average attack damage is 10 in a separate section? ''
:"It hasn't been done before" is not an acceptable reason not to do something, unless it's been previously been brought up and failed.
''No, we don't, because attack calculations are not notable unless they have a major impact on the game (such as a format ban).''
:[[Bulbapedia:Notability requirements|Notability]] is not a condition for adding information, only for creating articles.
''If we were to keep the section you've been insistent on adding onto this card article, we'd have to add that section onto ALL cards with damaging attacks and state their average damages. If we were to put down that Wooper from EX Unseen Forces had an average damage of 10 for its first attack and 20 for its second in a completely separate section, that would make things confusing indeed.''
:That's a slippery slope argument. As I noted before, the average damage in this particular case is not easy to determine by the target audience of this wiki (i.e. not everyone who comes here knows calculus).
''Case in point: That section you're insistent on adding is completely unnecessary.''
:Why is it unnecessary? There are many definitions of "unnecessary", and the one you seem to be using is that it tells people specifics about how an obscure and mostly-useless card works. In that case, is the damage calculation less necessary than listing the HP, weakness, resistance, retreat cost, type, and energy cost? After all, they're stated information, not derived information.
''Please don't put that section back onto that article or any other article, or else you may find yourself on the outside looking in.''
:I tried to resolve the conflict with you (because a wiki should not be guided by "winning" or "losing", but agreement) and you ignored me for whatever reason. I waited long enough so that you would be on Bulbapedia and editing, and I assumed that you had nothing more to say on the matter.
:As for your threat, a major principle of a wiki is collaboration. Even as an admin you are not empowered to make decisions about content policy, only enforce them. Unless you can show me where this decision was made, you shouldn't enforce it.
The way I see it, I'm pro-obscure-info and you're anti-clutter. Of course, you can make up your own labels which are more supportive of your cause, but I would probably dispute them. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 08:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
:Oh, and I don't plan on adding the section back in anyway, not until the dispute is resolved --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 08:53, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
::The case in the Bone Rush attack on the Lucario in question is a very similar case to the attack on the Geodude in question.  It doesn't matter exactly how the average is calculated, average damages for each attack are not notable to be on the pages.
::And the entire dispute was resolved a long time back.  The section doesn't belong.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:30, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
:::I moved it back up because it was a continuation of the previous discussion.
:::''The case in the Bone Rush attack on the Lucario in question is a very similar case to the attack on the Geodude in question.''
::::Which, once again, doesn't matter if the Geodude in question was never involved in a similar dispute. I already responded to this with "just because it hasn't been done doesn't mean we shouldn't do it."
:::''...average damages for each attack are not notable to be on the pages.''
::::Which, once again, doesn't matter because notability isn't a specific condition of adding content to pages, only adding pages to the wiki. To say that it's "not notable enough to be on the page" assumes that there's a point at which things are notable enough to be on pages, and that's not part of the criteria for adding content to pages so the whole premise fails.
:::''And the entire dispute was resolved a long time back.''
::::You've said that already. I've challenged it already. You ignored my challenge and claim once again that it was "resolved" without, once again, showing me where it was resolved.
:::--[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 04:14, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
I asked you two times to show me where it was decided that Geodude's damage calculation didn't belong. You ignore me and then threaten me when I add it back. I can only assume that you are lying about the "decision". --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 08:33, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:I went to [[User talk:TTEchidna#TCG cards damage calculation|TTEchidna]] about this, so you know. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 08:49, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
::Damage calculations have never belonged on card articles unless one has had a huge impact on the metagame.  We don't even list the 2320 damage possibility on {{TCG ID|Neo Discovery|Omastar|43}} from {{TCG|Neo Discovery}}, which is believed to have the current non-infinite highest maximum damage calculation around, mainly because it's not a metagame-changer ([[Pokébeach]] had it as a trivia question once, but most of the poll takers were fooled and Pokébeach even described the method wrong).  If we don't list that, there's no reason we should list average damages on a flip-to-tails attack with a 10× or 30× base damage (and, by extension, all damaging attacks in the entire TCG).  End of story.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:10, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Once again, bringing up examples in which it's never been an issue doesn't prove what you want it to prove. By your logic, we should've never added the Diamond and Pearl Pokémon in the first place because they haven't been added before. Precedent means nothing unless a decision was actively made. Your examples show no sign of an edit conflict and resolution. And you still haven't shown me where it's been brought up before. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 23:34, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
==Shipping==
What's the point of Shipping, anyways?  How does it benefit Bulbapedia?  It just wastes space...there's no main purpose for shipping on a Pokémon Encyclopedia.  Who started it annyways?...sorry, if I'm offending some people, but shipping doesn't really help anything on Bulbapedia...that's what I think...what about everyone else?--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|<font color="brown"><small>☆</small></font>]][[User:Tavisource|<font color="teal">Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 04:23, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
:There is a reason we stuck it in its own namespace instead of putting the pages with the main ones. I think they're fine as long as they're kept isolated like that. --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 23:48, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
::But what's the use of putting it in a site made as an encyclopedia?  You get what I mean?--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|<font color="brown"><small>☆</small></font>]][[User:Tavisource|<font color="teal">Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 00:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Probably because some of them [[PearlShipping|currently have a very large following]], and some others [[PokéShipping|once had a very large following, but has since fallen off due to the times (sometimes to the point where a once-popular shipping becomes a dead shipping)]].  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:11, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
::::So we should do a clean-up once in a while, getting rid of all the shippings that are useless...there are millions of chacters in Pokemon, which make billions of shippings...not good...too many--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|<font color="brown"><small>☆</small></font>]][[User:Tavisource|<font color="teal">Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 03:13, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well, outright-useless ones usually get cleaned off right away, usually due to a combination of lack of "evidence" and low popularity.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:15, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::...Luckily; all these shippings are driving me crazy...but I do like PearlShipping and SapphireShipping...look at the last section of Moldy orange's page.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|<font color="brown"><small>☆</small></font>]][[User:Tavisource|<font color="teal">Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 03:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
== You. ==
Gotta speak with you. Got AIM or something I can contact you over? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:39, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:Sorry.  Correspondence will have to be through e-mail.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
== Harassment ==
I've been getting '''harassed''' by '''{{u|Jmath}}''', and now,in a letter he sent me, is '''threatening''' to get me an infinite block on BP, and I'm sick of him.  This started over {{TP|Lance|Dragonite}} pic, and I'm trying to tell him that a pic in its most recent appearance is better, but he won't stop reverting it.  Please, I can't take him anymore, HELP ME!--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 16:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:Can you send me the offending material?  I want to keep a secure channel, so I'm requesting you do it through a PM on the forums.  Same username, except all lowercase.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:04, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Can't now, the schoolbell just rang, so I gotta get to class--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 16:06, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
::What are you talking about, Kuki? I didn't send you anything. Stop blaming me for something I didn't do. [[User:Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''Jm'''</span>]][[User talk:Jmath|<span style="color: #000099">'''a'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|<span style="color: #000033">'''th'''</span>]] 19:11, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Would you like to PM me your side of the story, Jmath?  Same forum contact info applies.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:45, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
== What? ==
How exactly did I "break every shipping redirect"? --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 21:41, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:Your edit to [[Template:Shipping redirect]] caused all shipping redirects to display this code in the area where the link to the matching page in the Shipping namespace should be:
:<code><nowiki>[[Shipping:|{{{PAGENAME}}}|{{{PAGENAME}}}]]</nowiki></code>
:By making that edit, you made sure that every single one of our {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Shipping redirects}} shipping redirects did not reach their intended destinations.  For example, instead of being able to get to {{redlink|Shipping:CommonerShipping}}, the [[CommonerShipping]] shipping redirect was left linked to only the two characters involved.  Other shipping redirects, such as {{redlink|History of Pokémon shipping}}, were made [[Special:DeadendPages|dead-end pages]] (of which [[$1]] should be the only page in the list).
:Had your edit been allowed to stand, shipping traffic would have ground to a standstill since the shipping redirects wouldn't work.  Templates are sensitive things, and reckless edits to them could cause side effects for all of Bulbapedia.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:48, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, it is kinda hard working with templates on MediaWiki sites. --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 22:09, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
== I strongly suggest you archive this page ==
It's 153 kilobytes long! You should definitely archive it. --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 22:38, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:I archive on a set schedule regardless of length.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
::If you would have read a couple sections up, you would have already seen it. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 22:44, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Which section? --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 22:45, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
::::"Not to be rude", started by me for the same reason. Just let people archive things when they want. ''[[User:Moldy orange|<sup style="color:#4B5320;">'''Moldy'''</sup>]][[User talk:Moldy orange|<sub style="color:#ED9121;">'''Orange'''</sub>]]'' 22:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Oh, okay. Then, to ShiningPikablu: Going by your scheduele, when will this page be archived? --[[user:Baby G|<span style="color:#FF4500;">Baby G]]</span> <small>([[user talk:Baby G|<span style="color:#D1E231;">talk to me]]</span>)</small> <small>([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|<span style="color:#B87333;">see my edits]]</span>)</small> 22:52, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Try noticing a pattern in my archives.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:53, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::My guess is October 7th.--[[User:Blazevoir|<span style="color:#FF0000">Blaz</span>]][[User talk:Blazevoir|<span style="color:#00FF00">evoir</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Blazevoir|<span style="color:#0000FF">!!</span>]] 23:29, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
== Are you...? ==
...Starting to get a bit pissed with the sheer volume of unqualified users being nominated for administratorship?  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 20:41, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:Well, as long as TTEchidna knows they're not quite ready for the power, we should be fine.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:43, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
::Poli, let me ask you something: why do you always ''only'' look at the number of contributions when voting on nominees? Quality over quantity, right? If a user is good and fits the profile, why does it matter if he's done 500 or 5000 edits to the mainspace? The minimum limit was set at a certain number - that should be enough. There are [[User:Maxim|users with a million edits who could never make good admins in a million years]], and there are users who would make amazing admins even with "only" 500 edits. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''<span style="color:#ED9121">electAbuzz</span>''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''<span style="color:#ED9121">zz</span>''']] 20:48, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Yes, quality is important.  However, volume is too, and the sheer number of {{u|PsychicRider}}'s edits are reverts.  I'll vote for him when he tops 1000 contribs.  As for other users, I haven't noticed much quality in the edits of many of those nominated.  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 20:55, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
== Pokemon Special ==
Should there be one page on a notable pokemon that a charcter owns for example Red's Pika and Saur have thier own pages should Saur stay?
So like can page like Sapphire's Torchic be made?--[[User:CoolPikachu!/Platinum|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''☆'''</span>]][[User:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Cool'''</span>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''ピカチュウ!'''</span>]] 03:59, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
:The notability lines for Pokémon in Special are a bit foggy at the moment.  It's hard to tell where to draw it; however, [[Pika]] and [[Saur]] are believed to fall within the notability boundaries no matter where the line is drawn.  ([[Chuchu]] is in a gray area; the [[Red Gyarados]] article represents multiple canons where all multiple [[Generation II]] versions, including one from Special, are represented.)
:I'd advise waiting until the notability lines are clearly drawn.  Even then, concerning Sapphire's Torchic, you'd be best off creating the article at a nickname and covering all evolution stages--it did evolve all the way to Blaziken, you know.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 04:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
::I know that it evolved all the way to Blaziken and so I'll wait for the notability lines so far I've only read half of the RBYG sega and all of the Emerald and a little of the GSC and mosr of the RS sega.--[[User:CoolPikachu!/Platinum|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''☆'''</span>]][[User:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#007FFF;">'''Cool'''</span>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<span style="color:#FFBA00;">'''ピカチュウ!'''</span>]] 04:15, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
== Hey ==
Browsing your page and I noticed the... new tag.  My condolences for your family's loss.  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 19:15, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
== Odd template problem ==
Well, as you may know, I'm awful with coding.  So, I can't tell why {{red link|Template:AnimeInfobox/Start|this page}} is showing up as blank and uncategorized, despite the fact that it clearly has material in it when you edit it/view the source.  Care to give it a shot?  --[[User:Politoed666|<span style="color:#30D5C8">ニョロトノ</span>]][[User talk:Politoed666|<span style="color:#FF69B4">''666''</span>]] 18:12, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
== Multiple Entry Packs ==
Right, so Pokémon Card Game DP had an Entry Pack. Now, the DPt series has an Entry Pack. Problem is, they're both called "Entry Pack", so as I've created the new one on [[Entry Pack DPt (TCG)]], would it be an idea to move the original from [[Entry Pack (TCG)]] to ''Entry Pack DP (TCG)''? This won't include the 2008 Entry Packs, obviously. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 13:52, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
:There's a disambig at simply [[Entry Pack]].  I'd say keep [[Entry Pack (TCG)]] where it is.  If you think the name might stir confusion, you could probably try adding this header info to [[Entry Pack (TCG)]]:
::''This article is about the original Entry Pack.  For other Entry Packs, see [[Entry Pack]].''
:This would link back to the disambig listing all Entry Packs.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:59, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
::I think that's a good idea, I'll add that in. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 16:10, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
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